El-P Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Holy fuck. Like, holy fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Worst show on all of television? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 That almost makes the Hogan-Warrior segments from 98 Nitro look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 You guys are saying that Bray Wyatt is the fecal midas, is that it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 I'm almost tempted to watch some of this dreck but that would defeat the purpose of having it on DVR and being able to plow through the entire show in under an hour. Its hardly breaking news, but it remains striking just far the work of AJ Styles and Shuji Ishikawa have fallen since being two of the best in the world just 3-4 years ago. Styles seemingly has a few more rabbits left to pull from his hat than Shuji, but both are very much at the stage of their careers where they're signing for the veteran minimum to chase a ring rather than pieces you build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Angelo Dawkins posting that weird 2020 New Years video in 144p made that so damn good. It's such an ironically funny video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, WingedEagle said: I'm almost tempted to watch some of this dreck but that would defeat the purpose of having it on DVR and being able to plow through the entire show in under an hour. Its hardly breaking news, but it remains striking just far the work of AJ Styles and Shuji Ishikawa have fallen since being two of the best in the world just 3-4 years ago. Styles seemingly has a few more rabbits left to pull from his hat than Shuji, but both are very much at the stage of their careers where they're signing for the veteran minimum to chase a ring rather than pieces you build around. Which is funny because AJ is solidly in the "guy getting the large payday for stuff he did years ago" phase of his career since by all accounts he was supposed to do the Lex Luger spot on the debut episode of Dynamite but WWE gave him a stupidly large offer to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, WingedEagle said: I'm almost tempted to watch some of this dreck but that would defeat the purpose of having it on DVR and being able to plow through the entire show in under an hour. Its hardly breaking news, but it remains striking just far the work of AJ Styles and Shuji Ishikawa have fallen since being two of the best in the world just 3-4 years ago. Styles seemingly has a few more rabbits left to pull from his hat than Shuji, but both are very much at the stage of their careers where they're signing for the veteran minimum to chase a ring rather than pieces you build around.  Shuji is still fine in tags but his singles matches have not been consistently any good since the second Kento TC match in 2017. He just feels so tired to me, especially compared to his partner SUWAMA who despite being in AJPW far longer and being a lot slower than he used to still feels like he has more to give. As for Styles I haven't seen anything of his since the Nakamura match at mania and he looked lethargic to me then, if it is worse now then it would strike me as sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, sek69 said: Which is funny because AJ is solidly in the "guy getting the large payday for stuff he did years ago" phase of his career since by all accounts he was supposed to do the Lex Luger spot on the debut episode of Dynamite but WWE gave him a stupidly large offer to stay. Where is this from? There was no reason whatsoever to believe that AJ was looking to leave WWE around that time. If anything, he was just coming off a really hot run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Not necessarily that he was looking to leave, could've just been coming up to the end of his contract so you'd obviously talk to both sides. All time worst viewership for Raw and defeated by Dynamite in the demo in all three hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Imagine being in Smackdown, a fully functional show with interesting angles and SOMETHING going on. Imagine now receiving the news that you are now moving to RAW and will have to feud with Bray Wyatt the killer clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, FMKK said: All time worst viewership for Raw and defeated by Dynamite in the demo in all three hours. Wait until the pathological deniers go all crazy with "Yeah but...". You know that is gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Don't worry, help is on the way. Lana being taken out of the TLC tag and replaced by a mystery partner seems like an obvious setup for Charlotte to return. I wouldn't put it past her to try for a Hogan-style power play where she sits out the worst time of the year for ratings and comes back in time to take credit for the turnaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, C.S. said: Where is this from? There was no reason whatsoever to believe that AJ was looking to leave WWE around that time. If anything, he was just coming off a really hot run. When the Good Brothers did their "I can't believe we re signed with WWE instead of leaving" tour, they talked with the Bucks where they laid out what the plan would have been had they showed up on Dynamite. It was heavily implied that AJ was going to be with them when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: Don't worry, help is on the way. Lana being taken out of the TLC tag and replaced by a mystery partner seems like an obvious setup for Charlotte to return. I wouldn't put it past her to try for a Hogan-style power play where she sits out the worst time of the year for ratings and comes back in time to take credit for the turnaround. Never has a pregnancy been better planned than Becky's, at least in terms of wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Seth became a father, exposed the Riddles in terms of them being petty, moved to the better show while shipping Matt Riddle to the B show and got himself a paternal leave. I don't like him but he's one of 2020's most fortunate and smartest fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Don't worry, help is on the way. Lana being taken out of the TLC tag and replaced by a mystery partner seems like an obvious setup for Charlotte to return. I wouldn't put it past her to try for a Hogan-style power play where she sits out the worst time of the year for ratings and comes back in time to take credit for the turnaround. She'd be better off returning at the Rumble than TLC then, since WWE's ratings historically go up during the road to WMÂ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Yeah I'd expect Charlotte to be savvy to not waste her big return as a last minute replacement on a B level PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: Imagine being in Smackdown, a fully functional show with interesting angles and SOMETHING going on. Imagine now receiving the news that you are now moving to RAW and will have to feud with Bray Wyatt the killer clown I'm only half-joking when I say that FOX has a hand in booking Smackdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sek69 said: Yeah I'd expect Charlotte to be savvy to not waste her big return as a last minute replacement on a B level PPV. If anything, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they do some kind of pre-match attack on Asuka to remove her altogether and have Mandy Rose & Dana Brooke being the challengers instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 It's just so ridiculous that we had to go through all this Lana stuff for weeks, and once they had an obvious payoff in sight, then they pull her out of the match the week of the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Seems like Vince is milking every attempt of building sympathy for Lana as he can but I can't imagine that this would be actually working in front of a physical live crowd under normal circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 I have genuine IRL sympathy for her, if that's worth anything Changing topic....wtf is up with Jessamyn Duke and Marina Shafir? I play WWE Supercard and I just pulled a new S7 Duke card...which means she's still under contract (they remove anyone who's cut or leaves from the draft board) but they don't do jack shit with either of them. I've always assumed they signed for about 100k a year and WWE just lets it roll over and refuses to cut them because they hold on hope of working with Ronda again, and they basically just sit at home and collect checks. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: I'm only half-joking when I say that FOX has a hand in booking Smackdown. Well supposedly Reigns and Heyman lobbied to have The Fiend drafted to Raw so that they could avoid a programme with him. Paul still knows how to play this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, cm funk said: I have genuine IRL sympathy for her, if that's worth anything Changing topic....wtf is up with Jessamyn Duke and Marina Shafir? I play WWE Supercard and I just pulled a new S7 Duke card...which means she's still under contract (they remove anyone who's cut or leaves from the draft board) but they don't do jack shit with either of them. I've always assumed they signed for about 100k a year and WWE just lets it roll over and refuses to cut them because they hold on hope of working with Ronda again, and they basically just sit at home and collect checks. Am I wrong? I guess the moment RAW Underground died, so did the hope of TV time for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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