KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sek69 said: TBF as much as I'm bagging on it, I'm glad the announcement wasn't broken down Kurt Angle. potato-shaped Perc Angle doing flips while high as shit? IT WORKED IN TNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Manatee said: They must have needed to pop the buy rate enough that they were willing to sacrifice credibility. Don't see how they sacrificed credibility. He's a huge star - top five Attitude Era guy - and definitely HOF-worthy as advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Even in a pre-recorded cinematic match, Sting isn't coming anywhere close to taking his shirt off lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 taz is confused by the concept of moving camera shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 I would assume wwe was going to do Edge/Christian v Reigns/USO at the March ppv which explains the all of a sudden putting Bryan in the mix with those guys again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Strummer said: Absolutely agree here Yeah but the hype machine...well put it in non-scripted sports term, it’s making a solid star/role player, who will make the Hall some day, into a mega all-time great, no doubt first ballot HOFer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, C.S. said: Don't see how they sacrificed credibility. He's a huge star - top five Attitude Era guy - and definitely HOF worthy as advertised. TOP 5 ATTITUDE ERA GUY???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 The hype announcement is why people are disappointed. People desperately want a signing at the level that would completely change the playing field in terms of being competitive with WWE. That signing sadly doesn't exist, but it's why these types of surprise announcements take on a life of their own. The only people I think capable of doing that are John Cena and The Rock (and these days, possibly Dave Bautista)Â but that era is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, C.S. said: Not sure why anyone is disappointed, as it would've been a huge surprise without the hype announcement. Because the hype didn't match what was delivered. I often see people criticize AEW for what I consider nitpicky things, but this was 100% on them for getting people thinking Punk/Cena/Brock level and delivering a so called mega star that wasn't even the biggest star on the tag team he's most famous for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, C.S. said: Don't see how they sacrificed credibility. He's a huge star and definitely HOF worthy as advertised. He's a mid card guy in a sea of mid card guys. Just like when they brought in Matt Hardy. That's my issue. I'm not touching the Top 5 nonsense. Great worker for sure but AEW isn't lacking in the workrate department. They're lacking in the "why should I watch this?" department on cable TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Manatee said: TOP 5 ATTITUDE ERA GUY???? People forget how beloved those TLC matches were during the Attitude Era, and E&C won all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Starks you are getting your ass handed by a dude nearly triple your age fix yourself  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, C.S. said: People forget how beloved those TLC matches were during the Attitude Era, and E&C won all of them. Bro Top 5 is too high. He wasn't top two even in RECK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Everyone in this thread is suddenly Vince McMahon - shitting on tag team wrestling (newsflash: the TLC guys were almost as valuable as Austin and Rock) and thinking Edge is better than Christian because he has nicer hair and whiter teeth. What's next? Going to start posting with a blue dot too? 2 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Bro Top 5 is too high. He wasn't top two even in RECK. Christian > Edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Brian Cage carrying Darby up the stairs in a vertical suplex was the top moment of the entire PPV so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, C.S. said: Everyone in this thread is suddenly Vince McMahon - shitting on tag team wrestling (newsflash: the TLC guys were almost as valuable as Austin and Rock) and thinking Edge is better than Christian because he has nicer hair and whiter teeth. What's next? Going to start posting with a blue dot too? Edge is horrible and tag team wrestling is great but you are still wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Manatee said: Edge is horrible and tag team wrestling is great but you are still wrong. Okay, so who would've been better than Christian that was a realistic possibility of signing with AEW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, C.S. said: Christian > Edge As a wrestler, yes. But you meant STAR, and that's where things go wrong  This fucking commentary, man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Christian is a strong signing for them. He's a great worker who I hope helps season people who need it. I can also seem him occasionally headlining when it makes sense. I think the lesson here is that AEW is going to have to put in the long, slow work of creating their own stars since the people they can pluck, even if they throw all the money in the world at them, are (for the most part) not going to help them take any major shortcuts to growth. They are planting roses with Darby Allin, Sammy Guevara, MJF, Hangman Page, Jungle Boy, Wardlow, Will Hobbs and Ricky Starks as a great group to keep cultivating and building for the future, and those will be the people that ultimately determine if AEW sinks or swims in the long term. Getting that group over as major superstars is the most important thing for AEW's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, C.S. said: People forget how beloved those TLC matches were during the Attitude Era, and E&C won all of them. The team was Top 5...the specific characters?  Not as much.  I mean Billy Gunn and Road Dogg aren’t breaking a top 15 of specific performers, but NAO are up there in the upper echelon of the era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, KawadaSmile said: As a wrestler, yes. But you meant STAR, and that's where things go wrong Nah. Christian is every bit the star Edge is - not his fault Vinnie Grapefruits could never see it. You can talk about TNA all you want, but no one was moving the needle for that little sinking ship that could. 1 minute ago, SteveJRogers said: The team was Top 5...the specific characters?  Not as much.  I mean Billy Gunn and Road Dogg aren’t breaking a top 15 of specific performers, but NAO are up there in the upper echelon of the era. NAO was great fun (well, before the bell rang anyway), but they didn't sell PPVs like E&C did with those TLC matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, C.S. said: Okay, so who would've been better than Christian that was a realistic possibility of signing with AEW? It’s not the signing, it’s the AEW/Uncle Tony overhype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 As someone who was in high school and college during the Attitude Era and got to see first-hand how teens who weren't necessarily into wrestling before evaluated guys, I can confirm that Al Snow would rank higher on a list of Attitude Era guys than Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Cm'on guy you know the Attitude era, famous for the Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Undertaker, HHH and Christian, you know the big 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Ricky you got your ass beat by a sexagenarian you suuuuuuuuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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