El-P Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: no male models per se. Well, the demo was more about Sable and Debra in skimpy outfits, really. MEAT was a miserable failure, and even in his case, the real draw were Jackie & Terri. The fact I even remember it kinda makes me sad, I'm just old and remember useless stuff from 30 years ago but hardly anything precise from three years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Wolfe Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Was Motor City Machine Guns Vs. Beer Money best of five? That was the last time i saw TNA really, remember that being great though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dale Wolfe said: Was Motor City Machine Guns Vs. Beer Money best of five? Yes and no. Technically yes, but every match was a different gimmick match, because Vince Russo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pete Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 The disappointing thing about the Benoit/Booker series is that neither guy really got to capitilise off the momentum from the angle. Both guys had long lay-offs and by the time they returned the company had moved on. Benoit was back to playing a support role for Flair who was experiencing a resurgence while Booker had to build his way back up to beating Scott Steiner and by that point it seemed like the moment had been lost. It didn't help that after capturing the TV title from Scotty, they had Booker put Scotty over for the US and followed that up by having him drop the TV title to Rick only to reform Harlem Heat while both him and Stevie were floundering. The rib was they tried to replicate the Best of 7 with a Best of 5 between him and Cena for the US Title in 2004 and the matches were really underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: Oh, I get why they didn't do it with Martel/Callis, I meant more in general. Like, how that gimmick never really materialized with other people? We got boy toy MEAT and Too Much, but no male models per se. I guess Maximum Male Models didn't titillate your juices? Funny how ol' man.soor went from token hometown guy for the Saudi shows to someone who probably wouldn't be allowed on them with this gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Note to our Saudi overlords: "500 Lashes in a Cell" is not a match-type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, sek69 said: I guess Maximum Male Models didn't titillate your juices? Funny how ol' man.soor went from token hometown guy for the Saudi shows to someone who probably wouldn't be allowed on them with this gimmick. 4chan dudes queerbaiting ain't doing it for me, even if in concept it's outrageous and they are 100% on the bit. But I meant more that if it were done in the AE, the amount of slurs and homophobic language used would be insane. Like, if in 1997 they wanted an older Martel, surely there could have been other options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, KawadaSmile said: Like, if in 1997 they wanted an older Martel, surely there could have been other options? I believe Martel and Callis came up with the gimmick themselves. Not WWF's idea at the time. Also, back then WWF was big on "New" something. New Rockers, New Blackjacks, LOD 2000, New Midnight Express. All huge success too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Yeah, Martel and Callis had been working the Super Models gimmick on the Canadian indies earlier in the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 My mind won't stop picturing 2022 Don Callis doing this gimmick and it's killing me every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 3:23 PM, sek69 said: My mind won't stop picturing 2022 Don Callis doing this gimmick and it's killing me every time And I bet Martel looks the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 9:23 PM, sek69 said: My mind won't stop picturing 2022 Don Callis doing this gimmick and it's killing me every time It was even a stretch in 97 if I think about The Jackyl. Just having long hair does not make someone handsome, even by wrestling standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Robert S said: Just having long hair does not make someone handsome, even by wrestling standards. In the 80's, it was pretty much enough. I mean, look at the guys who were sold as "heartthrobs"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, El-P said: In the 80's, it was pretty much enough. I mean, look at the guys who were sold as "heartthrobs"... You mean those two guys aren't handsome? Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 1:02 PM, Dale Wolfe said: Was Motor City Machine Guns Vs. Beer Money best of five? That was the last time i saw TNA really, remember that being great though indeed. 5 years later TNA did another best of 5 with Roode & Aries vs. The Wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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