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[Stiva]

I take great umbrage with that original Graves tweet because he has never been “fucking awesome” at commentary 

[C.S.]

13 hours ago, El-P said:

No. Simply jumping from AEW to a red hot WWE, which is a much bigger promotion anyway, makes Penta seem like more of a big deal. Let's not pretend the Lucha Brothers were not presented as big time stars the first (and best) years of the company. Also, there's a reason why Penta was never pushed as a single star, he said it countless times : he did not want it, he really only wanted to tag with his brother.

Same thing will happen when Ricky Starks jumps. By sheer scale effect, and the fact you're jumping from one place to another (and to the bigger and hotter place), you de facto become a bigger deal (unless WWE treats you like an afterthought of course, but they would be stupid to do so). What they do after that point is another matter, although Ricky Starks always struck me as more of a WWE type guy anyway (that being said, now that Rock is back, it may be tricky because he always had that second rate Rock thing to him).

And all of that, despite having some generic as fuck theme song too.

Anywoo. It was the right move for Penta. He's 39. I'm guessing in current WWE he can spam taunt to death like the other guy says "Yeah !" a lot and that would be enough anyway. Fénix will be another matter though. They have done jackshit with Dragon Lee (and before someone goes "but AEW", yeah, yeah, AEW's booking of Komander and Beast Mortos is depressing as well).

Is this board wigging out or was there a second reply from you that I can't find?

Anyway...

AEW is so inconsistent.

Sometimes it feels like they can only present ready-made acts as stars. Keith Lee looked like a killer in his first AEW match, Swerve has obviously been a huge success, Moxley, etc. 

But they've also struck gold with undeniably homegrown wrestlers like MJF, Britt Baker, Darby, Orange, Sammy off and on, etc. I wonder if that's down to the talent of those individuals being undeniable. 

Both Ethan Page and Pillman Jr. Lex King having varying degrees of success in NXT is proof that AEW has no real system for pushing people who may need a little extra guidance, boost, whatever it is. Either you're a red hot ready-made act or you're someone who can immediately slide into that space. Everyone in-between struggles in AEW.

The Lucha Bros. were presented well and had some good moments in AEW, for sure, but they also felt like "just another team" a lot of the time too. That's true of the Bucks and FTR as well, so tag team booking is obviously not AEW's strong suit, besides putting the right duos together to have bangers.

Ricky Starks will be a bigger star in WWE by default because AEW ain't using him at all. Starks being shelved is baffling to me. One day we'll get the story there. I wonder what the hell happened. Going to the Rumble to support Cody can't be the reason, or maybe it can? Who knows if Tony Khan is that petty? I would hope not. But something happened. Ditto for Miro.

If Malakai/Aleister Black returns to WWE, it will be another waste of time - just like Andrade. Just another overrated guy who adds another body to the midcard that fans don't care about. Black seemingly has everything going for him, but like Bam Bam Bigelow, some intangible is missing. Miro was also badly exposed in AEW, but I wouldn't mind him coming back, because he's certainly the best and most interesting of those three.

I hope this response isn't as rambling and incoherent as I fear it is, but I wrote too much already and don't have the energy to edit it, so...my apologies. 

16 hours ago, sek69 said:

This is pretty much the pro wres equivalent of getting sent to the minors, and if it isn't some kind of storyline going from calling Wrestlemanias to calling matches in front of a couple hundred folks on a campus in Florida because your boss is a mark for celebrity commentators has to sting a little.

I'm torn though. Part of me hopes it is a work so he doesn't seem like such a whiny baby, but if it is I don't really care to see him wrestling since he was becoming one of my favorite announcers in terms of how seemed like he was really hitting his stride. If it's just something he wants to do because he didn't get to end his in ring career on his terms, I get it, but it's not something anyone is really hankering to see.

I will say I enjoyed how half his commentary on NXT was asking Booker wtf he just said. At one point he seemed legit exasperated and was like "you have to deal with this every week?" to Vic.

It's definitely a demotion in terms of optics, but if he's making the same money for less travel, it's a sweet gig IMO. 

No one is clamoring for his in-ring return, but I remember thinking there was definitely something there the one time I saw him wrestle in NXT, so if he wants to go back to his original dream, I can't say I blame him.

With that said, there's all sorts of shit flying around about how he won't be on NXT tonight (we'll find out shortly) and was seen leaving the Orlando airport (I guess you can't fake going through TSA), so who knows what the hell is happening.

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Penta I feel can make a ton of money in WWE with merch, but his very schtick heavy performances and WWE's absolutely terrible record of pushing lucha guys that aren't Rey Jr. leads me to conclude he'll have a similar big early push like Nakamura and then be very, very firmly IC/US title level at best the rest of his run except he'll probably be doing Speed matches by the week after WM. 

He has the look and La Parka esque charisma that can get him over with the crowds no matter what but like La Parka in WCW, I don't see him getting much of a push beyond the lowest level title and then go into a waiting period for Fenix and then the same thing but with tag titles. But he'll probably make a lot of money from shirts and masks.

[sek69]

I suppose WWE must have forgot CW doesn't do overruns like USA did, as the Bayley/Roxanne angle got cut off at the end of the show tonight.

[El-P]

9 hours ago, C.S. said:

Is this board wigging out or was there a second reply from you that I can't find?

Nah, I wanted to edit my post, and I deleted it instead. 😅 So I basically requoted you as I re-wrote it.

9 hours ago, C.S. said:

AEW is so inconsistent.

Well, to say the fucking least.

9 hours ago, C.S. said:

Sometimes it feels like they can only present ready-made acts as stars. Keith Lee looked like a killer in his first AEW match, Swerve has obviously been a huge success, Moxley, etc. 

But they've also struck gold with undeniably homegrown wrestlers like MJF, Britt Baker, Darby, Orange, Sammy off and on, etc. I wonder if that's down to the talent of those individuals being undeniable. 

I'd say it's a mix of context, timing, and of course the talent itself and their mindset. BUT of course, AEW's presentation also played a part. Andrade's debut, which could have been awesome, was marred by being paired with Vickie Guerrero (it almost seems absurd she was even in AEW when you think back at it). Miro I thought they had a super clever idea, and obviously they dit not, before they redeemed (see what I did ?) themselves with the presentation for a while (until it got obvious Miro was just a pain in the ass to deal with).

9 hours ago, C.S. said:

If Malakai/Aleister Black returns to WWE, it will be another waste of time - just like Andrade. Just another overrated guy who adds another body to the midcard that fans don't care about. Black seemingly has everything going for him, but like Bam Bam Bigelow, some intangible is missing. Miro was also badly exposed in AEW, but I wouldn't mind him coming back, because he's certainly the best and most interesting of those three.

As far as talent goes, I disagree for both. Miro was terrific as the Redeemer, but when you don't want to do a job for fucking Hangman Page... Malakai's issue is pretty much the same it has been with every spooky gimmick since Bray Wyatt. All aesthetic, no depth at all. In the ring, he was a terrific and unique kind of worker with a great presence. But apart from the fact he's also one of those guy who was hard to deal with apparently (and look at his track record in term of single matches), he also got badly injured and his back is gone. He's not the same guy now he was in NXT a few years back. Andrade, well. Awesome worker, but he peaked in NXT (again) when he was paired with Miss Unionization. I think for the three of them, the mindset played a big part in why it did not work. Although Andrade obviously went on his way gracefully at the end (and honestly, Malakai too).

9 hours ago, C.S. said:

I hope this response isn't as rambling and incoherent as I fear it is, but I wrote too much already and don't have the energy to edit it, so...my apologies. 

Like *I* of all people would criticize anyone else for rambling. 🙂

[El-P]

So Masha Slamovitch, TNA women's champ, was at NXT in the crowd. Really, in term of adding something fresh and exciting about their product, this TNA deal, on WWE's side, as been really smart. It would be nice if that was reflected in what TNA actually gets on their side (because apart from a Rascalz reunion, which was really cool, TNA got low-tier names and talents only while NXT featured Joe Hendry and Jordynne Grace, and the Rascalz, in big matches. TNA got Wendy Choo in a tag match at BFG...).

Wait until Joe Hendry gets one of the biggest reaction at the Rumble too (again, because of the dynamics at hand).

Speaking about why AEW's existence has benefited WWE in the long run, well, WWE would never do that kind of stuff if AEW had not opened the so-called Forbidden Door and made it part of their appeal (which really had been closed by WWE itself, remember back in the late 90's where you could have a MPro show headlined by Taker vs Hakushi or Vader working the AJPW dome show, and of course sending workers to SMW and ECW).

[DMJ]

I hope this Corey Graves stuff is legit because while this absolutely sucks for him and he seems like an okay guy and I think he's a decent enough commentator, I absolutely hate "announcer storylines." The fact that this one is also "worked shoot" territory playing out on X is just...not my thing. I have no interest in Pat McAfee vs. Corey Graves at WrestleMania just like I had no interest in Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler or in the various times JR was pulled into storylines or turned heel (once for the Fake Deisel and Fake Razor storyline and I believe a second time when he was briefly managing "Dr. Death"?).
 

[sek69]

The crowd popping big for Punk saying he'd throw Hulk Hogan's dusty ass out of the Rumble has been the Raw highlight of the year.

[El-P]

8 hours ago, sek69 said:

The crowd popping big for Punk saying he'd throw Hulk Hogan's dusty ass out of the Rumble has been the Raw highlight of the year.

CM Punk using a very serious real-life issue (ya know, fascism) to get a cheap-ass rasslin' pop while working for TKO Entertainment is rich. He's such a rebel, you know...

[Coffey]

I genuinely don't get how Jey Uso is so over. Just from the stupid "YEET!" shit, I guess? There's not a ton of appeal to Gunther Vs. Jey to me but Saturday Night's Main Event is looking pretty good on paper.

Sheamus Vs. Bron Breakker is going to be nuts!

[DMJ]

Add me to the list of Jey Uso critics. He's a good-never-great singles wrestler with a catchphrase who had the benefit of being on-screen probably more than anyone else involved in the years-long Bloodline story. (Partially because he only one DUI on his record and his brother has 2?)

He's like McDonald's. Nobody is saying its great food, but its there. Its always there. Dependable. Enjoyable even, at times. 

I respect his consistency, but I don't think he's special really. He's shit the bed a couple times on big shows - the Mania match against Jimmy, the forgettable SummerSlam match against Roman - and, on the Netflix debut, I felt like you could hear the audience lose interest midway through his match with Drew (which was also underwhelming). Again, to go back to the McDonald's metaphor, the few times where he's needed to deliver an unforgettable experience, its still just McDonald's. 

People talk about great wrestlers "maximizing their minutes." Jey Uso has had the maximum number of minutes on TV possible over the past 3 years and I've never once felt like he had "main eventer" energy. 

 

[sek69]

Jey Uso getting this push reminds me of when JCP was pushing Ricky Morton as the next challenger to Ric Flair. They even did a memorable angle (rubbing Ricky's face in the concrete and breaking his nose) to set it up. It still felt like a tag team guy challenging for the title.

1 hour ago, DMJ said:

He's like McDonald's. Nobody is saying its great food, but its there. Its always there. Dependable. Enjoyable even, at times. 

This is the best comparison I could possibly think of.

[The Thread Killer]

Yeah, you can definitely add me to the "I don't get it" list when it comes to understanding the popularity of Jey Uso. I mean, I don't hate the guy or anything...but I really don't understand why he's so popular either.  I had a lot of time for the Usos as a Tag Team, and they deserve a ton of credit for staying popular and "relevant" (I hate that word in Pro Wrestling) in WWE for as long as they have.  But if you would have asked me a couple of years ago if it would be possible to split them up and for one of them to have a successful singles career, I would have said no way. And like @DMJ said, Jey has definitely shit the bed a few times when the spotlight was on in a big singles match.  That match with him and Jimmy at Wrestlemania last year was particularly tough to watch.

Not to sound overly cynical, but I honestly think you have to chalk a huge portion of his popularity to his entrance, and his catch phrase.  Let's be honest...WWE fans just love to chant stuff. Sadly, they're kind of like trained seals.  Once they get a particular word (What?) or chant stuck in their heads, then you can't stop them from regurgitating it on command. And that's regardless of the actual talent level of the person they're chanting for. For example, I don't think anybody would remember the New Age Outlaws half as much if it wasn't for the Road Dogg's pre-match spiel, and Billy Gunn's "two words for ya" routine.  An even better example would be Enzo and Cass.  Enzo's little weekly pre-match routine got those two guys over like a million bucks for a while, and obviously the talent just wasn't there to back it up...especially in Enzo's case.

@Coffey is probably right.  You take away "Yeet" from Jey Uso, and what do you have?  Not a whole lot.  Not saying he sucks, but I certainly don't think the talent matches his level of popularity at this point.  Oh well...Gunther has to murder somebody, so it may as well be him next. 🤣

[The Thread Killer]

As far as this week's episode of Raw, I thought it was pretty good.  I have been watching Raw weekly since the Netflix debut, and there is no doubt that this show has improved by leaps and bounds since I quit watching WWE in 2019. (I rage-quit after the infamous Hell in a Cell match between Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt, which featured the red light of doom and the giant clown hammer.) I had been following their weekly TV up to that point, but Raw was getting to be a major chore to sit through, it was way too long, and the booking was incredibly repetitive and overall terrible.  AEW was established by that point, so I pretty much stopped watching WWE TV and never really looked back.  I still watched select WWE PPV's, but as far as Raw and Smackdown I was pretty much done.

For somebody who literally stopped watching Raw for years and then came back for the Netflix debut, the differences are pretty remarkable, from the production for sure, but also the booking.  They still get a few things wrong, but they get a lot more right, in my personal opinion.

- I wasn't a fan of the show being started with a Nia Jax angle for the simple reason that Nia Jax is terrible and has no place on my TV.  Rhea Ripley is awesome and probably the best female talent in the business right now, but even her awesomeness can't offset the awfulness that is Nia Jax.  I have seen people whose opinions I respect around here at PWO talk about how Jax has improved. Maybe. But I look at it this way...if you are driving your car with four flat tires, and then you fix two of them...you're still driving a car with flat tires. Just because there are degrees of suckiness doesn't mean she doesn't still suck. And I defy anybody who saw her performance in War Games to tell me that she doesn't suck. Her promos are terrible, she comes across as a lousy B movie villain.  I get they are trying to book her like a female Vader or something now, but...bleh.

- Opening segment was okay. Did what it was supposed to. Showed how crazy popular Jey Uso is, continued to build Gunther's character and hyped the SNME match on Saturday. I would say this...if you saw Michael Cole "Yeeting" while Jey Uso made his entrance...you may have witnessed the whitest person ever doing the whitest dance ever. You really can't get much whiter than that.

- They screwed up the JBL segment, to be honest. I guess they figured he'd get cheered in Dallas so they tried to babyface him backstage with The New Day a bit, and he definitely did get some cheers...but he was still basically a heel commentator, especially when he was shitting all over Rey. I'm glad The New Day killed their theme song, because if they want this heel turn to work (and it definitely seems to be) then they really need to kill that music and change their image. The match was what it was...a solid TV match between two veteran professionals. Rey looked good and The New Day got to advance their heelishness.

- The Sami promo was pretty good. I groaned when Kevin Owens came out because I think the Pro Wrestling business in general has pretty much mined all they are ever going to get out of this rivalry. I was legit happy to see them team up in the Main Event of Wrestlemania a couple of years ago, definitely deserved.  But I could live a long happy life without seeing Chapter 556 of the Steen/Owens vs. Generico/Zayn feud.  I honestly don't know where this deal is going, but unless it leads to Zayn turning heel at the Rumble and Owens becoming partners again, I'm not sure I want to see it.

- I am mildly intrigued by the Sheamus/Breakker match coming up. Could be pretty damn good. Sheamus can have a great hard hitting match when he wants, and Breakker is really developing.

- Poor Bayley.  This time last year she was involved in a hot angle, about to win the Royal Rumble, and go on to win the Women's Title at Wrestlemania. One year later, she's getting beat by Nia Jax on TV.  And then Ripley attacks Jax, and Bayley just disappears like an afterthought.  Sad.

- I am legit curious about where they are going with this Gable angle...like whose contact information did Dom give him? As far as Judgement Day as a stable? Ugh.  They really need to pull the pin. McDonagh and Balor are fine as a Tag Team. Liv (and her bodyguard) and Dom are fine as their own little unit, and I don't know what the hell they are doing with Carlito right now...he's basically comedy relief or something.

- Penta must be really confused with how he is being booked. They built him up, and debuted him to a great reaction in an excellent match last week...and now he's on TV again, the next week.  I'm sure he's more used to having a great match on TV one week, then getting pulled off TV for two or three weeks for no reason, and then being booked in a 10 man tag on a B show after that.  This cohesive, planned out booking must be so confusing for him.  Anyhow, I thought the match was solid, and it was definitely designed to make Penta look great. Dunne looked good too. I'm curious what happens next with him, because apparently Tyler Bate is almost ready to return? I can't see Bate joining Dunne in his heel turn and them resuming their team, but who knows?

I guess the larger question is about Penta. Do they continue to push him as a singles star and even end up putting a belt on him?  He's certainly popular enough already.  Or does he get involved in a feud?  Or is he pretty much in a holding pattern until Fenix can come in?  I'm curious where they are going.  Not going to lie, I grew to dislike Penta in AEW because he seemed more interested in doing that stupid "no fear" hand gesture repeatedly, strutting around while sticking out his tongue, and doing repeated ridiculous dives. I much preferred Fenix.  But he seems to have reigned in some of his goofier habits in WWE, and I have found him really enjoyable so far.  I also liked that little backstage video they posted after his debut on YouTube.

- The Punk promo was good and accomplished what it was supposed to.  I don't know if it's by design or he can't help himself, but his heelish persona always seems to peek out, no matter how popular he is. I am curious if there is a turn coming for him. Sometimes it feels that way.  Not that his line about killing Hulkamania made him seem like a heel. It sounded like the fans in Dallas like Hogan about as much as the fans in L.A. did. 

- That Pure Fusion Collective group is actually pretty damn good.  I would definitely like to see more from them. The match with them vs. Kai & Sky was too short to be offensive, I kind of took this as filler, pretty much.

- Gotta be honest, I was not at all looking forward to the Main Event.  I love Drew McIntyre but I am lukewarm at best on Rollins, and I thought we'd seen enough from these two guys. But damned if this wasn't a hell of a match.  And the whole deal with Sami at the end added an interesting wrinkle...especially when you factor in that smirk on the face of Drew to end the show.

Overall, this show did exactly what it was supposed to do. It built and hyped up SNME this weekend, it built towards the Rumble, and it clocked in at well under 3 hours.  And as an "International Viewer" I got no commercials. I never thought I'd see the day where I actually enjoyed Raw again...but here we are.  (I'm still avoiding Smackdown until they go back to 2 hours in the spring.)

[C.S.]

I thought everyone on PWO was nuts praising The Usos as an all-timer of a tag team years ago. They were fine in the ring but had nothing else going for them. When they finally did get to show off their "personalities," they were annoying as hell to me, and Vince-led segments like "Ucey Hot" definitely didn't help. Now we're getting the YEET crap, which the crowd loves - so Jey and WWE are rightfully rolling with it - but it does nothing for me.

[KingBoggs33]

1 hour ago, C.S. said:

I thought everyone on PWO was nuts praising The Usos as an all-timer of a tag team years ago. They were fine in the ring but had nothing else going for them. When they finally did get to show off their "personalities," they were annoying as hell to me, and Vince-led segments like "Ucey Hot" definitely didn't help. Now we're getting the YEET crap, which the crowd loves - so Jey and WWE are rightfully rolling with it - but it does nothing for me.

I think it’s a younger generation thing. Cause my son and his friends all are teenagers and they love the “yeet” stuff. I don’t get it but hey good for Jey for getting it over. As for being a top act. I think Jey is the perfect midcarder. He can hold the IC or US Title but I can’t see him ever being a world champion for longer than being a transitional champion. 

I don’t care what anyone says though. I absolutely LOVED CM Punk saying he would kill Hulkamania. That was by far my favorite line I’ve heard this year. Call it cheap heat, cheap pop. I don’t give a fuck. Absolutely great!

[NintendoLogic]

I'm a fan of the Usos as a tag team, but I never saw anything that made me think either of them could be breakout singles stars. With that said, I was pretty shocked to see people rate Jey/Jimmy as one of the worst matches in Mania history. I thought it was perfectly acceptable wrestling that just never hit escape velocity.

In other news...

https://x.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1881805825674719685

Between this and PCO, 2025 so far is shaping up to be a banner year for blurred work/shoot storylines I couldn't possibly care less about.

[sek69]

4 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

  I have seen people whose opinions I respect around here at PWO talk about how Jvervvax has improved. Maybe.

She has got noticeably better, and is still bad. Honestly I think part of the issue is that pretty much every woman on the roster except Rhea and Bianca aren't able to do much with her.

 

4 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

The match was what it was...a solid TV match between two veteran professionals. Rey looked good and The New Day got to advance their heelishness.

I noticed several times it looked like spots didn't go as intended (like Kofi appearing to lose Rey on the powerbomb to the table spot and nearly dropping him on his head). The finish looked weird too, but Rey did his best to save it.

 

4 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

The Sami promo was pretty good. I groaned when Kevin Owens came out because I think the Pro Wrestling business in general has pretty much mined all they are ever going to get out of this rivalry.

I've noticed it before, but Sami went full Mick Foley in this promo and made it 100x more awesome. "Lovable babyface cuts serious ass promo" is one of those things that always works in wrestling and it's puzzling to me that more folks don't do it.

 

4 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

The Punk promo was good and accomplished what it was supposed to.  I don't know if it's by design or he can't help himself, but his heelish persona always seems to peek out, no matter how popular he is. I am curious if there is a turn coming for him. Sometimes it feels that way.  Not that his line about killing Hulkamania made him seem like a heel. It sounded like the fans in Dallas like Hogan about as much as the fans in L.A. did. 

I honestly think Punk can't help it, there's more than enough evidence at this point proving that's just his personality to be a sarcastic asshole. Part of me wonders if he threw that Hogan line in just to prove it wasn't just them dang California librulz booing him. Seems like a very Punk thing to do.

[sek69]

Also I hope Hunter is at least letting use the WWE jet to fly across the country to appear on NXT on back to back weeks.

[The Thread Killer]

1 hour ago, sek69 said:

"Lovable babyface cuts serious ass promo" is one of those things that always works in wrestling and it's puzzling to me that more folks don't do it.

Good point, but in WWE at least, I don’t know how many guys there are on the roster who have the promo chops to pull it off convincingly. A lot of those guys have been working under the WWE scripted promo system for so long that they can’t deliver a heartfelt promo without it sounding really cheesy, rehearsed, and unbelievable.

That’s one of the things that makes Sami great, is that his promos actually sound authentic and believable. Honestly, I love Cody and think he has been great in WWE, but even he comes across as kind of hammy at times.

I know we are talking about pro wrestling here, so of course we’re not looking for Academy award winning performances, but when it comes to those kind of heartfelt promos you are talking about, I think there’s only a small list of guys who could actually do it.

That would be an interesting larger conversation, actually.

[KawadaSmile]

Jey Uso being popular as a singles wrestler is just another feather in the cap for Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn. You just couldn't pull that off without the former making Jey look like the best possible underdog, and the latter developing a funny and charming friendship with him.

[C.S.]

On 1/21/2025 at 6:53 PM, KingBoggs33 said:

I think it’s a younger generation thing. Cause my son and his friends all are teenagers and they love the “yeet” stuff. I don’t get it but hey good for Jey for getting it over. As for being a top act. I think Jey is the perfect midcarder. He can hold the IC or US Title but I can’t see him ever being a world champion for longer than being a transitional champion. 

I don’t care what anyone says though. I absolutely LOVED CM Punk saying he would kill Hulkamania. That was by far my favorite line I’ve heard this year. Call it cheap heat, cheap pop. I don’t give a fuck. Absolutely great!

I agree that "YEET" is definitely something for younger fans, but if that were the only thing I didn't "get" about Jey's act, I'd understand. The guy just doesn't do it for me at all on any level.

Punk trolling Hogan was fantastic.

[Johnny Sorrow]

Jacob Fatu is IT. He's by far my favorite current wrestler, and is already in my top five of all time. He's on another level. 

[The Thread Killer]

8 minutes ago, Johnny Sorrow said:

Jacob Fatu is IT. He's by far my favorite current wrestler, and is already in my top five of all time. He's on another level. 

Agreed. So glad he got his personal issues settled and got into such great shape, and now he’s finally getting a shot on the biggest possible stage. That dude is MONEY. He’s got a great look, he can talk, he’s unique and he’s incredibly athletic.

[JRH]

What happened to Carmello Hayes? He was a breakout star in NXT, but he seems to be basically a JTTS over on the main roster.