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One of the MSG shows is missing. When I click on the 12/79 show, it brings up one from two years earlier instead.

Jerry Lawler has never jumped in his life, but maybe in this timeline he's the perfect physical specimen.

Is "Earthquake Evans" John Tenta?

What is there as far as Turner/Time Warner-era WCW "holy grail"-type matches?

Dustin was in the WWF towards the end of Dusty's run, so it's plausible they did meet at some point during that time. When Cody and Dustin were on Jericho's podcast, one of them said that on their way out going to WCW, Vince pulled them aside and said the minute Turner lets Dustin go he'll have a place at the WWF. Not too hard to buy that since that's exactly what happened in 1995. I have to admit when I heard that tidbit on the podcast it kind of took me by surprise. I figure that whatever happened early on with Watts going, that it didn't really affect Dusty because he still managed to keep his spot. Same with Dustin, who was a top babyface in WCW.

Yes. Don't know why this isn't one of them. Yes it's mostly stuff recorded on VHS but that hasn't stopped them before as they put out WCW and ECW collections on Blu.

Me too. I would hope that lots of people buy it so it creates a demand for more releases like this.

Random but someone mentioned on another thread how they would have liked to have seen an AWA reference on last season of Fargo, which took place in MN circa 1979. For some reason I always thought the Ken Patera/Saito/McDonalds incident would have made for a funny reference at some point.

It'd be great if they finished it off. I believe the recent drop stopped at sometime late in '89.

And Vince Russo stays a nobody

I presume Ric and Bruno have buried the hatchet?

I'm guessing not for a few reasons. WCW was in dreadful shape on most levels when Flair left in '91, as compared to how good Crockett was drawing 3 years earlier. Plus WWF was more interested in opening up the European market in '92, and having their own troubles with the steroid/sex scandals and the depreciating affect that was having on business overall.

The best alternate choice to Hogan would have been Luger but it would have had little shock value. Even still it would have been hard to buy him as the leader of any faction. One of my favorite things to ponder is if Dustin Rhodes never left WCW and where he could have fit into this. Being the "heir" of tradition the nWo was supposedly against, it could have been compelling to see him fight against them, possibly have the spot DDP had or share it with him (as I think they could have had good chemistry as a team), and start the inevitable ascension to one of the top guys in the company.

Flair coming in in '88 would have likely single-handedly opened up the WWF in the southern markets. Put him in a feud with Savage first (Hogan later) because I could imagine Savage more over with the Crockett audience than Hogan. Putting Heenan as the manager of the 4 Horsemen would be perfect, but what about the Heenan Family?

They even used that shot of the locker slamming in the promo package for Hogan/McMahon at WrestleMania 19.

The product waters itself down over the next few years, likely on the insistence of someone like Bret Hart, who's depended on much more. WCW still goes down, but WWF won't be in any position to claim a victory in the Monday Night War about it. Rock still becomes a top guy, maybe gets some decent TV and movie gigs, but doesn't become the biggest movie star in Hollywood. Austin most likely stays in an on-air position, and probably since he isn't working his ass off for the next 5 years, will be less likely to have the meltdown he had in 2002 when he "took his ball and went home".

Bad enough that a good deal of the angles were done in poor taste.

Maybe Tito Santana? They considered him for the top position before giving it to Bret in '92, and he was very popular nationwide still.

Honestly, at least as it concerns Prime Time I don't mind the blurring as much. Not as bad as when they were blurring Attitude Era stuff, where the scratch logo was pretty much on everything that wasn't nailed down.

Maybe, but it feels like WWF wasn't certain Savage would be a top guy until they paired him with Hogan as a team and saw how he did.

I watched a MSG match between Haku and Davey Boy Smith from October 1990. It might have been Davey Boy's first match back since leaving a few years before, and just after the bell rings Haku reaches over and they shake hands. It's not really noticed by Gorilla Monsoon and Alfred Hayes, but it certainly sticks out as being uncharacteristic during this time. I also heard about a match from around this time between Roddy Piper and Curt Hennig that was for a TV taping, where at the end Roddy stuck out his hand and they shook. Are there any other times where this has happened?

Is this just DVD or will there be a Blu-ray as well? They put more stuff in on their Blu releases, which I kind of dig.

Just out of curiosity, how big a deal did they make out of the slam on the syndicated shows after? It's possibly *the* WrestleMania moment, but it feels like at the time the bigger deal was about how Andre was dealt his first loss. I think making a heel champ would have been the best option in this scenario. Put a working machine like Dibiase on top, let guys like Savage and Steamboat get more shine with him on TV and house shows, give Hogan until the end of the year or however long he needs to recover. I got to say this is a good question.Andre had been slammed many times before (even by Hogan), but he must have been at his heaviest up until that point. I heard Hogan once describe how painful it was to get him up there (I think this was in an interview before he claimed Andre was 700 lbs, or the size of a small European sports car). I can only imagine how hard it is to lift something that size, with moving parts no less.

Yeah, just the regular amount of what he was doing. I was in attendance for his WCW return. The crowd, at least that surrounded me were pretty unimpressed with it. There was virtually no shock in it since it was pretty clear to everyone after Montreal he was headed south with Bret. To make it worse, he worked Mongo that night back and it sucked some of the momentum out of the show.

Mid-card guys until they get injured or fired.