Victator

They did, and Show was great in the segment. But they made him look like a pussy.

Heyman's promo sucked and was some pure Vince Russo bullshit. "You brought a fighter to an entertainment company." What the fuck does that even mean?

Gene died in 1991 and CW's debut (under a mask, with no training) was in '93. I don't see Troy Graham as really being post-modern. He had the name and the Dusty-ish manner of speaking, but he was almost always doing it as a heel without any of the "son of a plumbah" working man stuff either. Wait it has been a long time. It might of been a Anderson trainee who gave him the name.

Imagine you are C.W. Anderson and you look like that. What other gimmick are you going to get that won't result in you being a jobber, or a masked guy with a very short shelf life? I wonder if CW and Arn Anderson met each other, given they both worked for WWE in 2006. CW mentioned Arn worked out with him a few times in the ring. CW was given the Anderson name by Gene Anderson himself.

Trying to be contemporary and relevant is a dead end. You are going to look dated even faster doing that. You should be aiming for things that are timeless.

Bret said they approached him before they had Sting do it again. He did not have a problem with it. If they are still doing head drop type suplexes, they are stupid.

What? That ladder match was great. Most fun I ever had watching a live pay per view.

I think it was poorly phrased, but I got the gist of it. That the WWF had turned Crash Holly into a TV draw while WCW had degraded Goldberg as one.

Wasn't Tom Cole the kid that was molested by Mel Phillips? That was such a stupid thing to print. Like a married couple fighting and in a fit of anger Mom tells the kid "Your father wanted me to get an abortion." Even if it is true, what possible good could come from saying that?

I loved how tickled Scorp was holding the sparkler during the Gilberg debut.

He is a good personality and the way they used him tonight was good. Knowing him was not essential, but a bonus to long time viewers. A nice touch to say Brock was bringing BACK legitimacy to WWE and putting over being the only man to be UFC and WWE Champion. Making sure both were seen as equal.

I was at the show in Huntsville on Friday. Highlight of the night was Cena vs Tensai. We all lost our shit when Cena's music hit. Him and Tensai had a great match, that was as good as the first Umaga/Cena PPV match. Tensai cut out the hand motions and focused on fucking up Cena's arm. Cena sold the arm the entire match. Even when doing shoulder blocks he did it without bending the bad arm. Tensai hit the Baldo Bomb but Cena kicked out. He went for the mist at this point, but Cena ducked and it hit the referee causing a DQ. Main event was Punk vs Dolph for the WWE title. It was suppose to be 2 out of 3 falls, but was changed to a Street Fight. The match was good, but I was burnt out by Cena. A Street Fight is not Dolph and Punk's forte. It ended up being a few chair and cane shots around their normal match. Great moment with Dolph hitting Punk with the mic and ranting "I wanted 2 outta 3, you asked for a street fight!!!" Dolph went a 100 miles an hour and gave a ppv effort. From the show tonight

That Sabu picture bums me the fuck out. Two days after Umaga died, he was selling his AJPW Tag trophy he won with Umaga on Ebay.

Angle pinned him in the Triple Threat, that means two wrestlers got clean wins over Brock. I also mentioned that Brock jobbed on house shows before debuting on TV. Brock pinned RVD at King of the Ring. The only reason I think they protected RVD so much at the time was they were planning to do Brock/RVD post Summerslam. Or at least keep him viable as a main eventer, and Brock did kick RVD's ass at Vengeance convincingly. And no I do not consider losing in a Triple Threat a clean loss. He beat the Rock at Summerslam 02. He beat Big Show at multiple ppvs. He beat Kurt Angle in the main event of Wrestlemania. He beat Hulk Hogan cleanly on TV. He beat Undertaker clean in a Hell in a Cell match. In that time he lost two single matches cleanly. One to Angle at Summerslam and one to Goldberg at Wrestlemania XX.

Jesus fucking Christ. You are trying to argue that losing by disqualification is the same as doing a clean job. Brock Lesnar in his nearly two year WWE career lost via DQ or submission lost to exactly six different wrestlers. His total of clean jobs was two, to Kurt Angle and Goldberg. He lost exactly four singles matches in this run. To Big Show, Eddy Guerrero, Kurt Angle and Goldberg. So yeah the point stands. Wrong, I think it is clear I was referring to Taker and Angle at various intervals being the top faces, depending on Brock's alignment. But that does not fit your narrative.

Jesus Christ, pro wrestling is not fucking math. It was a triple threat match with Big Show and he was pinned by the biggest star (tied with Undertaker) on Smackdown. Submitted to Angle. So at this point in his career, he has lost to two different wrestlers, Kurt Angle and Big Show. He was punched with a chain by the fucking Undertaker. The guy he dominated the previous fall. So now Brock has been pinned by three different wrestlers. Only one being a clean loss. In an elimination match and to the guy who would main event Wrestlemania. If you count this, the tally goes up to four separate wrestlers in a year, who have defeated Lesnar by pin or submission. After Goldberg ran in. So now the tally is up to five men who have managed to beat Brock by pin or submission. Only one managing to do it cleanly. Which leads us to And we now have Brock's second clean televised loss in two years with WWE. Which the only reason he lost was because he had given notice. I'm actually wrong, you can count Brock's total losses on two hand.

How could he have been booked stronger? He could not run over the roster forever.

He didn't pop up. Were you even watching the match?

Wow five losses. Brock was a later day Cruel Connection #4. Seriously? You want me to go through his whole run? He was pinned or submitted on 5 out of his last 7 PPV appearances... which was his "last run" in the WWF. Are people this forgetful of history, or too lazy to look stuff up? :/ Not a ton of losses. Very very few clean losses. Even when he was a heel. The basic point is he ran rough shod over the entire roster and rarely lost before splitting. Its a bunch of nit picking horse shit. You can count the number of times Brock lost cleanly on one hand. You also conveniently left out that Eddy would have lost if not for Goldberg. Also that he squashed Bob Holly at the Rumble. The whole second Brock/Taker feud was to set up Vince/Taker so Undertaker could die and be reborn. You could say that you could of done Taker/Brock Buried Alive. My guess is the thinking was if Brock helped Kane bury Taker, they would have to deal with it before Mania.

Wow five losses. Brock was a later day Cruel Connection #4.

Eddy before he left. Show in 2002. Angle in 2003. I suspect we'll find others. John You won't, Bradshaw beat him at at house show in early 2002. That is four guys, which still basically supports his point. Also Angle at Summerslam was the only clean loss.

Not really, Summerslam was a decent enough match and the Raw match was only a few seconds. Especially his "embarrassing" performence at King of the Ring 96.

And the problem with that is? Umaga was still a viable monster main eventer for months until HHH got a hold of him.

Until Lesnar decides to go play pro lacrosse and leaves you high and dry before the rematch. I'm glad Cena won because fuck the visitors. Home fucking Team.

Who are most people? It was a mid card feud and was not suppose to draw money. It was something to fill up time and did. The blow off match on Raw was a nice moment.