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Absolutely. Can't hurt to be sure if we need one after all. I will second the call for people who disagree with Grimmas approving trades.

Buzz sawyer finally gets it done! Only Fuller has to go and ruin it. That Omni show looks really big, nice way to open it with a ten man tag.

I'm not looking to start another one unless it is necessary.

Not all of us!

I think Grimmas would make a perfectly fine master of trades. Mid November should be fairly easy to get down to 34 and 3 for everyone in my opinion. We could also go with November 1st. Not that big a deal either way. I think loan-outs off of the dormant rosters is getting a bit much. It's going to be hard to ask people tocome in and honor all of these dates that nobody running the promotion made.

I imagine he was a witness to how what they were doing tore the other four up. Probably found ways of avoiding as much of the punishment as he could while still putting on the right kind of matches.

Great TV and a Houston card that promises bigger things in the future. Andre and Hansen turning on one another had to happen, those two are enemies at heart. Muraco as the champ is a great way to build heat and put somebody over when he goes down. JYD is proving to be a great champ after only a couple of weeks. Fuji coming in to be a part of the Muraco stable is certainly...well, expected. I look forward to the next feud for the Fantastics as it will get them closer to being the tag champs they truly are.

Good continuation of you major storylines. Lots of hate-filled brawling is always a good thing. Gagne coming back is a cool deal, but somebody didn't like it. Hogan and the Roadies is a pretty ridiculous awesome trio for the early 80s.

That will change though. Think of when guys like Michaels, Austin, Sting, Luger & Dustin become available. Those are going to be heavily planned months before that.

That works fine by me as well. You seem like you would have a pretty good handle on who had value in the Canadian promotions.

Okay, so now that that is done, here is the plan on my end. If you think this seems off as far as placement, let me know. Ole Anderson to the IWF roster. Billy Robinson joins Steamboat on the Stampede roster. For now I am gonna hang on to Manny Fernandez to see if he has use for me outside of my original plans once I get everything in order with the rest of my roster. Once he is done in Florida I'm open to locations that he can spend his time until I find a way to use him. This takes effect in 24 hours. If you want Ole or Robinson and have offers that seem like they add the same amount of value to the roster they are going to I will listen.

Votes are confidential as a rule. Vote how you like because the idea is that we keep things even on the trades with our votes. If you think the value being added and subtracted works, vote yes. If not, say no.

Seems right to me.

So it makes for whoever ends up picking Stampede having several big name babyfaces. It's harder to build up babyfaces than heels.

Mine looks the same as jdw's. That being said, I would much rather watch a Taue match than a Kobashi match. Especially if it's after 1995.

I think we ought to be able to trade with the dummy promotions. The idea of a vote is good for this. How many people should be required out of the 12 that cast votes here to ratify the trade? 7? 8? I think already agreed-upon deals should be honored.

Brad Rheingans is now with Montreal and Blackjack Mulligan is now with JCP.

What it means is that for right now (and very likely for a long time), the Nightmares are in Southeastern. Steamboat is once again on my roster. Beyond that i don't know how this whole thing shakes out.

I tune in for every one of these because I think you guys do great work on them. I was watching at the time and vividly remember some of the WCW stuff.

I'm going to ask again. Is there any other options that need to be added to the poll questions? I have 20 per, so if there's a concern that's not being addressed let me know and I'll do my best to get it in there.

Let me work on defining that poll question better. I edited the question to include three options instead of two. There is a good chance you will have to revote due to positioning.

October 11th, 1983, Centre Civique, Drummondville (4,000, sellout) The Marcus Brothers defeated Etienne Bergeron & Frederic Tremblay with a double team suplex on Tremblay Dan Johnson defeated Alex Gerrard with a power slam Hurricane Kamiguchi defeated Tim Gerrard with a blockbuster Goldie Rogers & Steve Regal defeated Louis Laurence & Tony Ricco with a hotshot/neckbreaker combo on Ricco Quebec Heavyweight Champion Richard Charland defeated Dave Kochen to retain his title after interference from Goldie Rogers Tonga John defeated Jim Brunzell by count-out after sending him over the guard rail with a big boot Rene Goulet & Invader 3 defeated Stonehead Ishimoto & Gilles Poisson with a Goulet scorpion claw hold after a missed loaded headbutt Phil Lafon went to a DCO with King Tonga, this was followed by both partners coming out for a 2 on 2 brawl Gino Brito, Tony Parisi & Invader 1 defeated Canadian International Tag Team Champions The Midnight Express & Mad Dog Lefebvre with a Brito figure four on Lefebvre after a bloody brawl that saw Invader 1’s mask torn from one eye to the middle of the forehead

There were rules, but it's becoming obvious they don't work and a lot of them are unpopular with at least half of the promotions. I hoped maybe a vote would push the issue to the point where we decided something as a group. There has never really been anyone in charge. KrisZ always had the wrestler debuts/retirements, etc. covered. Otherwise things were decided by committee. Only thing is, cooperation seems to be extremely difficult of late and nothing gets solved.

I'm trying to present options. My goal is not for any one thing to happen. My goal is a solution that we can all at least openly see was come to by a vote. If the option to use dummy promotions alongside dispersion drafts wins, I am not above doing another poll to determine what our setup on dummy promotions is. What I want is something solid to work from in the future, preferably something that leads to more stability than we've had. If you don't like options that have been presented, put something on the table that you think would work. Nothing said so far is in any way final or the only way we can do things. Yes, there are 15 of us and it makes things difficult. It's just something we have to work through and figure out. Pretending like it will work fine going forward if we leave it alone seems like a dead end at this point. So can we try to figure out a way to make it work?

There was also the option of using WWC and All Star, while they are dormant, as the "dummy promotions". No saying that we can't continue on that course until other options are needed. No need to kick anyone out and the workers are there to trade for if the need arises. We can still run dummy promotions on those two and put the IWF and (if he's out) Stampede rosters up for grabs if that ends up being the preference.