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    After a rewatch, this is the definite MOTY for me and in the Top 5 for the overall decade (along with 10/24/10 Futen tag, Shawn/Taker, Brock/Roman and Hechicero/Lucero).
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    Knee Lifts - Yoshihiro Takayama European Uppercuts - Daniel Bryan, Cesaro
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    I'm asking this earnestly - when did this "Brock is shot" narrative start? I thought he was the best performer in the SummerSlam match and he worked his ass off. Then he and Braun had a middling match (one I oddly liked still a good bit) and since he "allegedly" hampered Braun in this match (Braun looked just as gassed), i've seen this line of thinking pushed a lot more. Dylan Waco in the No Mercy thread was acting as though Lesnar was going to die in the middle of the ring vs. Braun due to exhaustion and in the process sabotaged Braun. I get not liking the match and Brock's performance but I thought that was quite an overreaction. I'm not blaming Dylan but I think that's where the narrative shifted from "Brock is lazy" to "Brock is physically done". Having said that and having enjoyed Brock's work vs. Goldberg and some others, I still agree with Boss Rock's point about Brock not being the same since 2012-15 (though I'll say it's more due to offensive laziness than poor conditioning).
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    After thinking about it more, I think these describe me as well. My tastes have definitely expanded in that I like more styles and types of wrestlers/wrestling than before but the stuff I consider to be all time great has substantially shrunk.
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    For some of us, yeah. But I'd guess there are more fans out there who mark out far bigger for the sick moves. I like violent looking strikes as much as anyone but I don't think it's that simple. Context is important. Sometimes a dragon suplex on the apron is necessary over an elbow strike so in that situation, the sick move is better. Also, I'm not a fan of stiffness for the sake of stiffness but I think the punches that actually land are usually better than worked punches. Not many people do worked punches well, the obvious exception being Lawler. Even Satanico (the GOAT puncher for me) punches seem like actual strikes to me based on the fact the you can actually hear the impact.
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    My favorite mini (and some full fledged) feuds, excluding many of the usual suspects. Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano Chigusa Nagayo vs. Dump Matsumoto Akira Hokuto vs. Shinobu Kandori Marty Jones vs. Mark Rocco Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Jack Brisco Megumi Kudo vs. Shinobu Kandori Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle William Regal vs. Dean Ambrose Yuki Ishikawa vs. Carl Greco Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Shinya Hashimoto Yoshihisa Yamamoto vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Mariko Yoshida vs. Yumi Fukawa Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Hiromitsu Kanehara Genichiro Tenryu vs. Nobuhiko Takada Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Eddie Guerrero (as Black Tiger II) Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuiness Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Tajiri Shinya Hashimoto vs. Riki Choshu Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker Volk Han vs. Mitsuya Nagai Volk Han vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Volk Han vs. Yoshihisa Yamamoto Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith El Hijo del Santo vs. Espanto Jr. Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Super Tiger Vader vs. Sting
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    Yeah, I'd say I'm comfortable with my Top 8 or so. After that, everything's a little iffy.
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    Maybe I have been watching the wrong stuff but AJ's New Japan run seems to be lacking in high end/great matches. Yeah the Suzuki match is awesome but there's not much more for MOTYC level stuff.
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    Surprised no one has mentioned it yet but Yuki Ishikawa vs. Daisuke Ikeda for me and pretty easily at this point. All time classic matches, great singles matches, diversity in terms of how their matches are worked, variety in terms of roles (face/heel), hierarchy etc + tons of tremendous interactions in tags and multimans and longevity.
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    One of my favorite things about WWE Bryan is that even with all the goofiness and yes chants and what not, he was still able to wrestle a gritty and violent style. Some vicious and focused legwork on Harper who turns in a pretty outstanding selling performance. Really impressive how they managed to construct a great match considering the circumstances: 1) they are given just a few minutes on free TV (including ad time), 2) this takes place in the middle of a larger gauntlet match, 3) in typical WWE fashion, the focus is on Rollins/Orton backstage stuff. Bryan also takes a Misawa bump on a half nelson suplex, which is insane given the condition of his neck. Beautiful, beautiful payoff and finish. ****
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    Shawn for me and pretty easily. Much superior tag work, his best matches are considerably better. IMO, the 94-97 is superior to any of AJ's runs including the 2014-current run NintendoLogic mentioned (maybe not week to week but high end matches wise). Similar versatility and adaptability with regards to different opponents and types of matches. Shawn has had disappointing and wildly overhyped matches but so has AJ (I personally hate the Cena series, the Nakamura match is not very good). I will say I'm not surprised Styles is winning by a landslide here. Though he did very well in GWE (39), the impression I have got is that his WWE run has really made people take notice and reevaluate him and the perception has gone from "oh that really good worker" to "one of the modern greats".
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    Wow, I am way off from the consensus on this one.
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    The main event was utterly bizarre and nonsensical but I liked HHH's terrified facial expression after the match. It really put Braun over the top.
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    I can see why someone might prefer the Goldberg match as it was tighter and more impactful. But I don't see how the Strowman match could top this or even the Joe match. Care to expound? Some specifics: The initial Brock domination of AJ was too deliberate for me, I much preferred how it was done in the Cena and Roman matches. Styles comebacks were also too sudden and not very compelling. I am a big proponent of spots not looking perfect, slightly uneven execution and even "botches" but here, it just came off as awkward rather than uncooperative or gritty. For example that tornado DDT counter spot looked pretty bad, I didn't think they redeemed it too well. But, overall, I preferred the pacing and structure of those matches. This probably had better individual spots but, as a whole, those matches were just constructed better. There was just something intrinsically iffy about the pacing in this match. Probably not a terribly helpful explanation but there it is.
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    "The Wife of Stephanie McMahon", there is no way that wasn't intentional
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    Good match but pretty disappointing overall. I preferred the Goldberg, Joe and Strowman matches for Lesnar. Brock toned down suplex city so I suspect people are going to like this the best. Something about the pacing was off and it felt awkward at times. Still, good individual performances by both. Some really great bumping by AJ and he got in quite a lot of offense. Neat leg selling by Brock. Him violently powering out of the calf crusher was the best, most memorable spot. *** 1/4
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    You might have already seen it but Fujinami vs. Ryuma matches from 78-79 have some of the best pro style matwork I've seen.
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    Kicks - Kiyoshi Tamura, Shinya Hashimoto Punches - El Satanico Palm Strikes - Jushin Liger, Volk Han Elbows/Forearm Strikes - Mitsuharu Misawa Headbutts - Yoshiaki Fujiwara Chops - Genichiro Tenryu, Kenta Kobashi Stomps - Negro Casas, Jumbo Tsuruta Knee Strikes - Jun Akiyama
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    That's a great point, I never realized that even though I've seen that 11/9/1993 tag match. This match really is on an another level when it comes to pure storytelling. I can understand the criticisms of the first 10-15 minutes (and even agree with them to a slight extent). Still think everything they did in that time was on point and built and advanced the narrative, they just had to tighten it up a little.
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    Some more I thought of Yoshiaki Fujiwara 1987-1991 Eddie Guerrero 1994-97 Jushin Liger 1989-1994 Yuki Ishikawa 1996-2000 Mick Foley 1996 - 2000
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    Yoshiaki Fujiwara 1984 - vs. Super Tiger, 9/7 1985 - vs. Super Tiger, 9/11 1986 - vs. Antonio Inoki, 2/6 (not including the NJ elimination matches) 1987 - vs. Riki Choshu, 6/9 1989 - vs. Akira Maeda, 8/13 1990 - vs. Nobuhiko Takada, 10/25 1991 - vs. Wellington Wilkins Jr., 5/19 1994 - vs. Shinya Hashimoto, 6/1 1995 - vs. Taka Michinoku, 8/26 1996 - w/Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Nobuhiko Takada/Masahito Kakihara, 6/26 1997 - vs. Genichiro Tenryu, 11/27
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    Yeah I just gave it to Regal on the strength of the Ohno and Cesaro matches and his individual performances. A usual suspect pick like Casas or Bryan should probably take it but I have some viewing gaps. For 2000 I had created an ongoing 2000 WOTY thread. My current contenders for #1 are Hashimoto, Ishikawa, Satanico, Aja, Akiyama and Kobashi. I thought the Tenryu match was really good but I'll agree the Sasaki match was quite terrible. Very much agree on AJ's 2016. Just out of this world and a legit all time year. Would have to look things over, but you don't think Danielson's run in '06 rises to that level? Its the only other year that came to mind on the domestic side, but haven't looked back at the lists for a close comparison. I'd say, stateside, Austin 2001, Joe 2005 and Danielson 2006 are much better than Styles 2016.
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    Sublime match with a completely different dynamic from their 94-95 bouts which were more about the underdog Yamamoto trying to survive. Here, he is near/at his peak and so the exchanges are far more competitive. Han does a great job at presenting him as a serious threat with a superb display of subtle vulnerability. The mat exchanges rule as expected (though they are a noticeable step down from the Tamura/Han interactions but that's an awfully high standard to be fair). The standup game is arguably even better and more dramatic and intense. Probably the best thing about the match is the way they use the points system with interesting twists and turns, comebacks and teases. Fantastic finishing stretch as well. **** 1/4
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    If the lack of high end pro style matches was a possible knock against him, his 2016-17 run has rectified that.
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    A topic that I thought would complement the MOTYs by year thread well. 1983 - Terry Funk 1984 - El Satanico 1985 - Chigusa Nagayo 1986 - Tatsumi Fujinami 1987 - Tatsumi Fujinami 1988 - Genichiro Tenryu 1989 - Ric Flair (insanely competitive year: Fujiwara, Satanico, Tenryu, Jumbo all up there) 1990 - El Dandy (Fujiwara would have won it in almost any other year) 1991 - Jumbo Tsuruta 1992 - Jushin Liger 1993 - Akira Hokuto 1994 - Aja Kong 1995 - Mitsuharu Misawa 1996 - Volk Han (Ohtani is close) 1997 - Kiyoshi Tamura 1998 - Koji Kanemoto 1999 - Mariko Yoshida 2000 - Shinya Hashimoto 2001 - Steve Austin 2002 - Genichiro Tenryu 2003 - Kenta Kobashi 2004 - Eddie Guerrero 2005 - Samoa Joe 2006 - Bryan Danielson 2007 - Bryan Danielson 2008 - Yuki Ishikawa 2009 - Rey Mysterio Jr. 2010 - Daisuke Ikeda 2011 - Dick Togo 2012 - Negro Casas 2013 - William Regal 2014 - AJ Styles 2015 - Sasha Banks 2016 - Black Terry 2017 - Kazuchika Okada
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