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Definitely Ultimo. He's definitely not as a good as juniors/cruisers like Rey, Liger, or Otani, but he still has several matches that I enjoy. He's not a lock, but he still has a shot at making my ballot. Orton on the other hand is one of my least favorite wrestlers. Terrific mechanics but just so rarely can make anything he does interesting. Not sure if it's a lack of work ethic, blandness, or both, but he just doesn't do much for me.
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Yeah I can't imagine the folks watching are doing it because of J.R. Even when he was first brought on, it was probably an attempt boost credibility but I doubt anyone seriously started watching just because of him.
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J.R. just really needs to be kept for those sit-down interviews and do other backstage work.
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I went with Kobashi but this could change over time. Bryan has proven to be more versatile and has more instances of elevating lesser talent/broomsticks. But Kobashi has the highest peaks of any wrestler in singles and tag matches and that's going to be super hard for anyone to overcome. He's the best offensive wrestler ever and he might be the greatest seller as well. And while Kobashi's opponents were better than Bryan's best opponents, he has several classics with folks who aren't the pillars. That being said, Bryan is an incredible offensive wrestler as well and is a terrific seller in his own right. He was BITW-level for almost all of the 2000's and for a good chunk of the 2010's when he was active (WWE booking didn't always do him a ton of favors). Perhaps when 2026 rolls around I won't have AS MUCH of an emphasis on peaks, but right now Kobashi's peaks plus having 10+ years as BITW have him at number 1.
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Just watch him get lamped and panic against Cain and Carwin, yep haha.
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Amen. I really enjoyed his run in the Shield and think he's been a genuinely good tag worker at times. There was even a time in 2018 where I started to come around on him. But at the end of the day he's just a super mediocre singles wrestler.
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I think Kobashi balanced the line of melodrama better than anyone.
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I've seen more Sasha than Mayu matches and I MIGHT have Sasha's best match above Mayu's, but I think Mayu is better on almost every other night. Especially in terms of offense it's a no contest.
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Kobashi was also very good by at least 1991 if not 1990.
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I have Tenryu comfortably ahead, but there are quite a few similarities between the two. Neither were good athletes yet neither out-kicked their coverage. Both have great matches against a litany of opponents regardless of skill level. Both guys' offense were good for how they wrestled and both were great sellers. I personally just think Tenryu could wear more hats, had higher peaks, and had more volume.
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I still go Barry, but I think Jericho's NJPW run was largely good and proof he could adapt with age. I thought his matches with Cody, Mox, and OC (the first one anyway) were good but he's obviously way over the hill now.
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I had no idea, but that makes sense as they both got their start at around the same time.
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Looks like NJPW Strong is going to have fans. Haven't really watched it other than the Mox-KENTA match but have heard good things.
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The two greatest wrestlers of 1993. Arguably two of the greatest peak and offensive wrestlers ever. Both will probably be a few folks' number 1 pick. Choose your fighter.
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I haven't really seen enough Kerry to say with confidence, but I agree that Reigns is likely one of the folks who could push Kerry out of the top 100.
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Vader has the advantage in terms of being good in a multitude of different settings, but I think Aja's volume and peaks surpass Vader's by a decent margin. I have them pretty close in my rankings though with Aja as top 20 and Vader probably top 30.
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Elliot asked this a while back on the GWE forum and it nearly drove me insane. Have fun!
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I like Jericho and his NJPW run definitely adds to his case, but Barry smokes him.
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I can't think of any good Brock tag matches, but I can't think of any good Steiner singles matches.
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Savage has him beat in versatility and elevating lesser workers, but I think Choshu's peaks and volume are greater. Also a better tag worker as stated above. Gimme Choshu.
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As Homer Simpson once said "Who could forget dear Rat Boy?"
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I went with Funk due to having higher peaks and having success wearing more hats. But I think Casas has him beat in volume and longevity. I've never been crazy about Funk's 70's work. And it's not like Casas isn't versatile either.
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w/ Choshu vs. Ishikawa and Tenryu 2/93 is another one.
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I recall Elliot also posted this in the GWE forum and while I voted for Hashimoto then and I still have him higher on my list than Jumbo, I might have to reconsider. I've always held Jumbo's pre-86 work against him even if he was super talented whereas I think Hashimoto figured out his style much quicker. I also held Hashimo higher due to getting more out of less. But I still take Jumbo by a solid margin in terms of peaks. I don't think I would consider Hashimoto as best in the world during any of the years he was active while I would probably consider Jumbo for at least a few of the years he was active. They both also similarly thrived in heated slugfests and ass-kickings. So this is tougher than it was the first time I compared them.