Victator Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Foley mentioned in "The Hardcore Diaries" that there was someone within WWE who was very much opposed to Randy Orton feuding with Foley in hardcore matches. Foley said that person didn't seem to mind when it was him getting over by having hardcore matches with Foley. We used to have a thread full of mentions of Hunter cutting guys off at the knees on live TV. Why wouldn't he do the same in a production meeting? I have no doubt he would. I just don't think he would it in the perfect ProWrestlingNewz.com sound bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 My love for professional wrestling slowly dying in roughly 5 minutes Well, he couldn't make it to 5 minutes before bailing. So all this time and the Anony GM was Hornswoggle? WTF? Wait... why is that annoying me more than the rest of the shitty show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Seems like Hornswaggle is their go-to for tying up mystery storylines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Honestly, with how inconsistent the Anonymous Raw GM's decisions wherein terms of helping heels and babyfaces, "it was Hornswoggle because he thought it was funny" is far from the worse choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Just that it's a week payoff. I mean... someone had to "empower" him to be the GM. Vince doing it for his "son" Hornswoggle? Except that storyline was completed with him being Fit's son, not Vince's. Yeah, it's the WWE, Jake. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 And yes: I don't know why I give a shit. It's one of many dumb GM ideas the WWE has had, and one that had no pay off at the time. You just sorta thought that it ever was brought back for a payoff, the payoff would mean something of slightly more significance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Any payoff was going to be weak. The laptop ended up being a deus ex machina to move the storyline in whatever direction they wanted any given week. That's the risk you run when you don't have a clear end goal and just make things up as you go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'm not suggesting that Foley would have been the perfect Anonymous GM, but he would have meant something more than Hornswoggle. The contradictory nature of the Anony GM? "Well... sometimes Cactus Jack was sending in the messages, sometimes Mankind. Sometimes it was The Dudester, and sometimes it was just little old Mick Foley himself. Look... I've taken a lot of chairs upside the head over the years, and fallen off of tall places... you can't expect me keep track of what I'm doing from week-to-week and have it all make sense." *flashes a goofy Foley smile and a thumbs up* Or some such nonsense. Hell, he was just back last month as the Temp GM. If they were going to blow it off, blow it off then and have it lead to at least *something*. Send someone back to research the rulings of the Anony GM, bounce stuff around the Creative Table and see if they can pull out several strands that Production can string together into a "theme" of the Anony GM that can have a payoff: it's Foley, and his reason for returning now is to do X with the GM power. Hell, I suspect that some regular viewers of Raw in that period in less than a week could come up with something that could be crafted into "making sense", including some humor spots where it "doesn't make sense" that Foley can explain was The Dudester just fucking with people so it wasn't obvious it was Foley. Again, not saying that Foley is the perfect resolution of the Anony GM and using it to put together a multi month arc (say from here to Survivors) with a payoff. But... he'd fit, and he is frankly better on the mic that most of the crap the WWE could run out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med2089 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 At the very least, they could fall back on Hornswoggle not being able to talk in those days, therefore needing the laptop to communicate. It still makes very little sense, but at least that small loose end could tie it together a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Wasn't Hornswaggle out at ringside when the GM chimed in? Like, probably dozens of times? Foley really was the only choice which would've made any sense. Yeah, it's the WWE, Jake.Uh, considering the weird Vince/Steph dynamic, Chinatown comparisons for the WWE rather creep me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Wasn't Hornswaggle out at ringside when the GM chimed in? Like, probably dozens of times? Foley really was the only choice which would've made any sense. Yeah, it's the WWE, Jake.Uh, considering the weird Vince/Steph dynamic, Chinatown comparisons for the WWE rather creep me out. I think Vic said Finkel and that would have made sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I was hoping it would turn out to be Backlund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah I thought it would be Backlund last night. Since he is insane and is not a regular. Before that I said Howard Finkle and I think that could be explained. So Hornswoggle indirectly maimed Ricky Steamboat and everybody is cool with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I got the sense Hornswoggle was the anonymous GM for one night only, and not the same one who wreaked havoc back in it's run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I got the sense Hornswoggle was the anonymous GM for one night only, and not the same one who wreaked havoc back in it's run. I thought Lawler said something to the effect of, "It was YOU doing this stuff the whole time!?!?!" I might be wrong, though. I wasn't paying that much attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Wasn't Hornswaggle out at ringside when the GM chimed in? Like, probably dozens of times? Foley really was the only choice which would've made any sense. This would be interesting to check. Also: was Foley around at the time of any Anony GM stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Foley was in TNA when the anonymous GM stuff was happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Shawn, Trip and Paul E, the three people in pro wrestling that I've hated the most over the past 16 years, all in the ring for an unending awful 30+ minute series of segment... yeah... why did I let myself get talked into watching that? The only time I've given a shit about "car" segments are (i) Vince's Vet getting the cement job, and (ii) the Beer Bath. The rest are just dumb. This time it was dumb with dumb performers. Then the stuff back in the ring was terrible. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Don't forget Angle's milk bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I didn't give a shit about Angle's milk bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Never really did understand the hype for the moment, even at the time. If it'd never happened and then John Cena had done that to John Laurinaitis earlier this year people would complain about how lame WWE PG is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Never really did understand the hype for the moment, even at the time. If it'd never happened and then John Cena had done that to John Laurinaitis earlier this year people would complain about how lame WWE PG is.Well, Angle's generally a lot better at comedy than Cena is. Cena is a smirking, self-aware guy who appears to be intentionally playing a whitebread babyface as almost an act of trolling half the audience. Pre-bald-psychopath Angle perfectly inhabited the part of a clueless clean-cut boy scout who was totally oblivious to the fact that he was such a square. But even then, yeah, I never thought the milk bath was much more than a faintly amusing reminder of Austin's beer bath (which itself I wasn't a fan of, considering that they must have literally soaked the entire first dozen rows of the audience with that shit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Announced on the WWE's Facebook page: "BREAKING NEWS: Paul Levesque a.k.a. Triple H has been promoted to the post of CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, effective from October 15, 2012. This also marks the official retirement of Vincent Kennedy McMahon from all the affairs of WWE." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Announced on the WWE's Facebook page:Is it? I couldn't see it on the page when looking just now. There's nothing from Meltzer and Vince is still showing as CEO on WWE's corporate site, which also features no mention in the list of media updates. Did you actually see it yourself or was it on newz sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 My brother put it on my Facebook. Maybe his source was erroneous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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