Bix Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 So WWE suddenly has a clear direction pushing younger, fresher guys all show long with Punk/Bryan/Ryder presented as the clear top faces in the company, Cena was relegated to an odd segment with Kane where it looked like he was going to be sexually assaulted before being smothered that was impressively produced in terms of time management, the tag team division is suddenly supposed to be very important, they're clearly giving guys more latitude stylistically...what the hell happened and why didn't it happen at some other point in the last 5 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yeah this was quite the shift in structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I dunno, but I enjoyed it a lot more than the PPV last night. Dare I say I even *gasp* liked RAW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Good show. Nice to see guys like Cena and Orton (his feud with Barrett=zzzzzzz) out of the main picture for a change. I could get into a new New Generation Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yeah, I couldn't tell if by putting his hand over Cena's nose/mouth if he was trying to murder him or rape him. Also Punk's been tweeting since the PPV how this is the change he's been talking about and posted a pic of all the current WWE champions (himself, Bryan, Ryder, Cody, Air Boom, and Beth) saying this is what he was trying to do in the WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 that kane/Cena segment was so strange. What was with Cena's facial expression at the end? Looked like he had just had his wisdom teeth pulled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 and I agree with what Bix said on Twitter that this had to have been a HHH trial run writing the show. It was just so different and old school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 So WWE suddenly has a clear direction pushing younger, fresher guys all show long with Punk/Bryan/Ryder presented as the clear top faces in the company, Cena was relegated to an odd segment with Kane where it looked like he was going to be sexually assaulted before being smothered that was impressively produced in terms of time management, the tag team division is suddenly supposed to be very important, they're clearly giving guys more latitude stylistically...what the hell happened and why didn't it happen at some other point in the last 5 months? Ill give it a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I like that there was actually a relevant thread talking about shit that actually happened this week for a change too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 EXTREMELY cautiously optimistic about this group: I really hope Vince doesnt revert to old habits and give Daniel Bryan a Rey Mysterio style self fulfilling prophecy push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 that kane/Cena segment was so strange. What was with Cena's facial expression at the end? Looked like he had just had his wisdom teeth pulled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I like that there was actually a relevant thread talking about shit that actually happened this week for a change too. I like that you spend so much time complaining about this. It really adds to things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 EXTREMELY cautiously optimistic about this group: I really hope Vince doesnt revert to old habits and give Daniel Bryan a Rey Mysterio style self fulfilling prophecy push. Short guys with short hairs wearing kickpads. Is this Roh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ill give it a week Heh, at most a month I figure. Does have me wanting to watch RAW for the 2nd time this year tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Nice of them to do this since the Last Raw Of December is always one I end up being forced to watch by Cheetah and/or Hombre. Though who knows... they could pull a 180 on that show. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I really liked the fact that the main event ended with Bryan going over Del Rio, given that Del Rio just went over Bryan cleanly a few weeks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 It's always fun when you watch someone go through the various stages in life and make it, whether it's a low baseball draft pick who makes it through the system to the big league club and is successful or this situation, seeing both Punk and Danielson work their way through the lower echelon of wrestling to WWE champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Look at that shit.....amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I kind of felt that way in Dec 1992 when Misawa had the TC, Misawa & Kawada had the World Tag Titles, and Kobashi & Kikuchi had the All Asia Tag Titles. Of course Kawada had to ruin it by... John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Nice of them to do this since the Last Raw Of December is always one I end up being forced to watch by Cheetah and/or Hombre. Though who knows... they could pull a 180 on that show. What's making me look at this more glass half full is how a bunch of little things were different from how WWE has been running for a while, in addition to the Punk/Bryan/Ryder as the new faces of WWE push: - Wade Barrett being booked to get his heat back against Orton. - They're breaking up the ridiculous monotony in the women's division by starting an Alicia Fox push that started with her getting a clean non-title win over the champion (treated as a bigger deal than most WWE non-title match wins). - There was only one comedy segment and it was actually very funny. - The Cena/Henry/Kane angle was noticeably shorter and tighter than the usual in ring interview -> angle segment, especially for one involving Cena. - They were suddenly pushing the tag division as a big deal on commentary, with talk about how it's heating up and Air Boom needs to scout the Usos and Primo/Epico. - Cody and Sheamus were both kept strong with squash wins. - The babyfaces making their entrances through the crowd as they were being mobbed was a great touch to make them look like stars. - A Raw main event had a dive train from the face team. I might be forgetting other things, but in general, it felt like a much different promotion with a different person booking the TV which was paced much better than Raw usually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 They do have the opportunity with the NFL / MNF coming to an end to get some focus on storylines. They are up against college football those first two weeks of January. They are somewhat unlucky that Stanford-OSU is on 1/2. Stanford and OSU aren't exactly big national draws, but it is one of the few interesting match ups on what is a pretty dire slate. It also has one of the other interesting match ups leading in: Quack Attack vs Badgers in the Rose Bowl. The WWE would have preferred one of the more traditional night caps to "New Years" bowl games: Sugar Bowl (MI-VA Tech) or Orange Bowl (WVU-Clemson), which are match ups of interest to mostly fans of those teams. The following Monday will have Raw up against Bama-LSU in one of the more hyped games in a while. Will be more interesting to see what the game draws rather than what the WWE draws. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairchops Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Loved RAW this week. I'm starting to think WWE is aware of some of the mistakes they've been making and are making an effort to have patience with putting new guys on TV and giving them time to build some momentum. Also loved Punk/Bryan/Ryder coming in through the crowd like they were the Von Erich boys in Dallas circa 1983. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I thought the show was remarkably boring. I actually fell asleep during the main event which never happens. The concept of the show I liked and it reminded me of the SD years ago with Cena, Edge and Rey standing tall in the Cage at the end of the broadcast signaling the beginning of a new era. But as a show there was absolutely nothing that grabbed me, stood out or even bordered on sustaining my interest. On paper the main event looked great and I will go back and give it a watch. Other than that the only think I really liked was the crazy Uso bump and Mark Henry being awesome on the mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KanadianKrusty Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Are you the only one who copies their posts, word for word, from DVDVR? Seems like i've been seing this for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I did in this instance yes. Do I do it all the time? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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