Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3

[Death From Above]

Man, describing Larry Z as "a Second City Foghorn Leghorn" is just about right. And pretty damn funny.

 

WELL I SAY I SAY TONY, YOUNG WRESTLERS THESE DAYS ARE NOT AT ALL LIKE THEY USED TO BE NOW IF YOU STOP TALKING FOR JUST A SECOND SON I COULD TELL YOU ALL ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DOING IT WRONG, BUT FIRST YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO STOP FLAPPIN' YOUR GUMS ABOUT LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO GET A WORD IN

[Jmare007]

Based on comments from Jim Ross last week, here are some matches that will be on WWE's upcoming Mid-South Wrestling DVD:

 

* Last Stampede Match: Bill Watts & Stagger Lee vs. The Midnight Express

 

* Jack Roberts vs. Snowman with Muhammed Ali in his corner

 

* Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer vs. Hacksaw Jim Duggan

 

* Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor for the NWA Title in a 40+ minute match

 

* Terry Gordy vs. Steve Williams for the UWF Title

 

* Tuxedos in a Steel Cage match with a Coal Miner's Glove on a Pole; Loser Leaves Houston Match: Hacksaw Jim Duggan vs. Ted DiBiase

[Death From Above]

Will's set will be better. :-)

 

But hey more Mid-South is more Mid-South. I ain't complainin'.

[Loss]

Hmmm ... would Jim Ross call the matches like Jim Ross calls matches, would he pretend he's doing a real time call, or would this be more of a voiceover to provide background information? Curious about the point of view on these things. I don't typically watch WWE DVDs.

[Al]

Previous commentary on WWE DVDs tends to be background voiceovers. They aren't pretending to recreate the match.

[jdw]

I know this is like shooting fish in a barrel, but this part really stood out:

 

Steele feels Tito should have stayed IC champ since Savage was going to be over either way. Steele says he cost Tito a long run w/ Savage by getting the Liz/Savage/Steele angle over so well.

I know wrestlers' memories tend to be swiss cheese, but Tito lost the belt only a month after they started doing the Liz/Savage/Steele angle which in those days was too soon to know if something was getting over or not.

 

This is an interesting one that probably has some truth in it, even if Tito actually *did* get a long with with Savage.

 

WWF @ Tampa, FL - SunDome - December 19, 1985

Saturday Night's Main Event #4 - 1/4/86 on NBC (10.4)

Randy Savage (w/ Miss Elizabeth) pinned George Steele (w/ Capt. Lou Albano) at 4:06 with a double axe handle after Steele became distracted by Elizabeth; Dean Malenko was the referee for the bout; after the contest, Savage carried Elizabeth over his shoulder backstage

 

So it was taped on 12/19/85, and aired on 1/4/86.

 

They instantly ran another angle off it at the next taping:

 

WWF @ Poughkeepsie, NY - Mid-Hudson Civic Center - January 7, 1986

Championship Wrestling taping:

1/25/86 - aired SNME match (to set up the angle)

2/1/86 - included George Steele & Capt. Lou Albano as guests of Piper's Pit in which Albano said Miss Elizabeth was a nice woman but was under the influence of Randy Savage; the segment ended with Steele chasing Bob Orton Jr. off the set after he motioned that Elizabeth stunk

 

So they had to know they had something... or that Vince simply liked it a lot.

 

First known house show with it:

 

WWF @ Richmond, VA - Coliseum - January 18, 1986 (11,910; 10,388 paid; sell out)

Randy Savage vs. Geroge Steele

 

Next tapings they went even stronger to it with now a third angle and a dark match:

 

WWF @ Poughkeepsie, NY - Mid-Hudson Civic Center - January 28, 1986

Championship Wrestling taping:

2/8/86 - Randy Savage (w/ Miss Elizabeth) pinned Paul Dose at the 23-second mark with the flying elbowsmash; prior to the bout, George Steele came out and gave Elizabeth a bouquet of flowers; when Savage noticed the flowers, he stole them from her and destroyed them

Dark match after the taping: George Steele vs. Randy Savage

 

This all leading up to Savaging beating Tito for the belt.

 

Of course Tito-Savage would work five straight MSG cards, and headline all over the place. The feud would go into the summer. It wasn't a short program.

 

But there also is a sense that Vince saw something overall big in Savage, beyond just the angle with Steele happening to prove Vince was right. Hogan-Savage was already going around the horn, starting at the late-Dec MSG card. This even as they were going to put focus on Hogan-Bundy for Mania. In a sense, Savage was getting booked against the two babyface champs: the biggest star in the promotion (Hogan) and another key face they had been pushing since the start of expansion (Tito). Savage was also so big that he got a third feud at the same time: with Animal. That's... someone they really knew they had something special in.

 

John

[pantherwagner]

What were the details of the story of Los Destructores being considered too dark skin (or not having the 'right look') by the network and having to wear those semi-masks in AAA? I think I first heard this from Sims but maybe pantherwagner, KrisZ, or someone on here knows more details.

I have never heard that story before, or if I have, I can't remember. But considering all the misfits that Pena had on TV the network complaining about those guys seems odd. Try to ask Steve himself, he's a super nice guy and will get back to you.

[pantherwagner]

Last week I went to Yoshihiro Takayama's restaurant in Tokyo. It's called Stomach Hold. He wasn't there (apparently he was working for NOAH that night). I didn't expect him to be there so it was OK, but apparently he is there a lot.

 

Place was run by his wife, a very tall (probably 5'9" plus had high heels) and attractive Japanese lady, who speaks perfect English. She made sure I was comfortable and asked me my name and where I am from. One funny moment was when she asked me if I had seen the Don Frye fight, I said yes, the Bob Sapp one too and she facepalmed.

 

It's a yakitori (skewers) restaurant, food was absolutely excellent, some of the best chicken steaks I have eaten in a long time and perhaps the best liver I have ever had. The Antonio Enoki dish (enoki mushrooms wrapped in bacon) was also fabulous. Walls had six of his belts (IWGP, GHC, triple crown and another one that may be PWF), some photos of him and figures of a few foreign wrestlers who I guess where his friends or heroes. Nothing overboard or tacky.

 

Price was good for Tokyo, menus all in Japanese but I'm sure you could manage ordering with some help, and it's very central, in Yoyogi, very close to Shibuya. Very recommended to anybody here who visits Tokyo.

[caley]

A bunch of the WWE Docs have been added to Canadian Netflix so now I've been watching some of them. Was watching the Ladder Match one and there is nothing funnier and obviously out-of-touch than the set for the NWO Souled Out PPV with motorcycles all over and bored-looking middle-aged soccer moms dancing to NWO music and Bischoff and DiBiase trying to do "cool" commentary (DiBiase said "As I said before" so much that Bischoff finally went "Then don't say it again!" then pretended it was a joke). But, it's the shot of those women sashaying to the music that just kills me, literally having made me pause the playback because I was laughing so hard.

[BruiserBrody]

[pantherwagner]

Konnan mentioned on his last podcast that he once got a royalty cheque from TNA for 2 bucks... royalties from a DVD he wasn't even on.

[Death From Above]

The Antonio Enoki dish (enoki mushrooms wrapped in bacon) was also fabulous.

Hahaha.

 

I am easily amused.

[pmo]

Last week I went to Yoshihiro Takayama's restaurant in Tokyo. It's called Stomach Hold. He wasn't there (apparently he was working for NOAH that night). I didn't expect him to be there so it was OK, but apparently he is there a lot.

 

Place was run by his wife, a very tall (probably 5'9" plus had high heels) and attractive Japanese lady, who speaks perfect English. She made sure I was comfortable and asked me my name and where I am from. One funny moment was when she asked me if I had seen the Don Frye fight, I said yes, the Bob Sapp one too and she facepalmed.

 

It's a yakitori (skewers) restaurant, food was absolutely excellent, some of the best chicken steaks I have eaten in a long time and perhaps the best liver I have ever had. The Antonio Enoki dish (enoki mushrooms wrapped in bacon) was also fabulous. Walls had six of his belts (IWGP, GHC, triple crown and another one that may be PWF), some photos of him and figures of a few foreign wrestlers who I guess where his friends or heroes. Nothing overboard or tacky.

 

Price was good for Tokyo, menus all in Japanese but I'm sure you could manage ordering with some help, and it's very central, in Yoyogi, very close to Shibuya. Very recommended to anybody here who visits Tokyo.

That belt is NWF title.

[BrickHithouse]

Is there a general consensus on the Bash 88 Triple Tower of Doom match? Do people here tend to like or dislike this match?

[JerryvonKramer]

I think it's a real curiosity piece.

 

I recall Kevin Sullivan's extremely creepy post-match antics being the most memorable part of it.

 

There are a few really good things about it. There's a very slight tease for the Ron Garvin heel turn. The match builds reasonably well.

 

I do recall us having some problems with it though: Hawk making the save for Precious when it should have been Jimmy Garvin. Some real awkward moments when two guys reach the bottom cage and just stand there.

 

Overall, I think it's a match everyone needs to see once just to say they've seen it.

[soup23]

I was not much of a fan. Good for a "hey that is different" watch like the Arkansas Hog Pen match but much better conception wise than execution for me. I think the main problem I had with it is that in Wargames, everything feels so confined and claustrophobic that it amplifies the intensity and pain. Here, everything felt diluted and stretched out and the camera had a hard time really capturing the action with the long camera shot showing the whole structure. There also was not a whole lot of logic going on within the confines of the match. I was pretty disappointed given some of the talent in the match and the coolness of the structure.

[pantherwagner]

The Antonio Enoki dish (enoki mushrooms wrapped in bacon) was also fabulous.

Hahaha.

 

I am easily amused.

 

The entire menu was like this, a friend read it all to me but I can't remember any other than the German Potato Soup-lex, mainly because of how silly that name was.

[Loss]

That's awesome. Wrestling and puns, always a good combination.

 

I remember the Clash with the Dinner and a Movie guy serving NWOkra, which always made me laugh.

[pantherwagner]

From the Feb 12 1996 classic Observer posted early this week. This is awesome.

 

[…] at the Orlando Residence Inn where many of the wrestlers were staying, there was a hostage situation. At about midnight, a woman was thrown out of her room naked outside in 20 degree weather while the guy in the room barricaded himself in the attack, and the SWAT team had to come to tear gas him out. They had to evacuate all the rooms while this was going on, which included both WCW wrestlers and officials. Apparently the scene was almost directly out of a bizarre movie with Pillman and Disco Inferno, in character, saying that the Horsemen were there to save the day and him having everyone so confused as to what to make of him had people believing he was actually going to try and apprehend the guy himself (which he didn't do, although we've got reports that after the guy was apprehended, that Pillman kept giving him the four finger Horseman signal).

[rovert]

Brian Christopher still being Brian Christopher in 2013:

 

Former WWE star Brian "Grandmaster Sexay" Christopher was arrested on 4/11 on a DUI charge and is scheduled for a hearing this Friday, according to ABC affiliate WBBJ-TV in Memphis, TN.

According to the WBBJ report, Christopher was arrested in the early morning on the 11th. He was pulled over after he failed to stop at an intersection.

 

Police claim Christopher "admitted to drinking more than half a liter of vodka and taking methadone and xanax", according to the report.

 

Christopher is currently out on $1000 bail.

That's one hell of a tolerance.

[artDDP]

I never really understood what Larry did to get so over in late-90s WCW. I doubt most of the fans remembered him being in the WWF in 1980 and he wasn't much more than a mid-carder in the early 90s yet by 1997 fans were chanting his name and he was booked into a feud over the future of WCW.

He was an eccentric with a pronounced midwestern uncoolness that went all the way around to being somehow cool. The clueless fiftyish republican uncle you could root for -- kind of a Second City Foghorn Leghorn. Compare his endearing know-it-all act with Mark Madden's obnoxious basement dweller version of the same thing.

 

Jesus, this post is absolutely beautiful.

[rovert]

WWE warehouse is a wonderland but watching Mick walk is so, so depressing:

 

 

I knew it wasn't going to be pretty but he is essentially Stu Hart now.

[sek69]

He looks like the average pro football player 10 years later and in need of knee replacements.

[Dooley]

He looks like the average pro football player 10 years later and in need of knee replacements.

Yeah. I was expecting way worse after the last comment.

[WingedEagle]

Forget constructing a new HOF. If they throw a little money into some professional displays they could turn that warehouse into something that dwarfs Cooperstown. Looks like an absolute goldmine.