jdw Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 The "I hope one day you will have the courage to come out yourself" line one is a fairly handy, a lot less confrontational and potentially true comeback for someone in Punk's position. That's a great line. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 What are WWE going to do for talent over the next decade (and beyond)? Outside of Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose there doesn't seem to be anyone in developmental that has a buzz about them. Although there may be some others that have potential that I'm not aware of. Hero & Claudio seem to be the last of the 2000's cast. There's a few guys in TNA* and ROH that are good and would be an asset to the roster, but no one on the level of Flair, Luger or Vader who when they jumped to the WWF you thought "Yep. They're a bona fide main eventer. I can see them headlining in New York". (Even if it didn;t end up working out). *Excluding Sting. there's probably some big paydays against various folks if he showed up fot the dream match factor. But he's not a long term solution. Is there anyone in TNA or ROH on the level of Austin or Jericho, who when they jumped you thought "They've got a ton of potential. I could see them headlining. Hell there at least a lock for the IC title". I'm guessing there's some guys on the indie's with potential, who I'm not aware of. At least I hope there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Even though he's be hurt by bad booking and being Lazy, I think Joe could work in WWE. Jeff Hardy going back might work in the short term. I like Seth Rollins in FCW more than Ambrose. If he's given a chance, he could be pretty big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I've heard lots of good things about Sami Callihan, but he's probably too small for the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Bix have you read about how much ROH butchered the Summer of Punk DVD? I'm not Bix, obviously, but I haven't heard a thing about the Summer of Punk DVD other than the fact that ROH released one. Do tell, Rovert, how bad is it? Yeah, what happened here? Just that they cut out the entrances and have a remix of Cult of Personality. Obviously these are sad commercial realities. However what gets lost isnt replaced by a current day narrator. The story that gets told on the DVD downplays Foley & Gibson's roles as well as Punk's friendship of Cabana. Nerd stuff but still fairly key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Could they get in trouble using a remix of Cult Of Personality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Foley didn't have much of a role did he? All I'm remembering is a single promo at the NYC show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 What are WWE going to do for talent over the next decade (and beyond)? Outside of Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose there doesn't seem to be anyone in developmental that has a buzz about them. Although there may be some others that have potential that I'm not aware of. Hero & Claudio seem to be the last of the 2000's cast. There's a few guys in TNA* and ROH that are good and would be an asset to the roster, but no one on the level of Flair, Luger or Vader who when they jumped to the WWF you thought "Yep. They're a bona fide main eventer. I can see them headlining in New York". (Even if it didn;t end up working out). *Excluding Sting. there's probably some big paydays against various folks if he showed up fot the dream match factor. But he's not a long term solution. Is there anyone in TNA or ROH on the level of Austin or Jericho, who when they jumped you thought "They've got a ton of potential. I could see them headlining. Hell there at least a lock for the IC title". I'm guessing there's some guys on the indie's with potential, who I'm not aware of. At least I hope there is. I think AJ Styles could get over huge in WWE. He's got a personal charisma and ability to get over with crowds that TNA really hasn't capitalized on as much as they could have, and he's a really good worker who IMO would quickly adapt to the WWE style. I remember him saying in an interview years ago that he never wanted to go to WWE, that they offered him a development contract at one point and he took it as an insult, and honestly, that's just stupid. His peers Danielson and Punk took those "insulting" deals and are about to co-main a PPV, and he's still toiling in the toilet of wrestling promotions. I guess TNA takes care of him and pays him well, but if I were in his shoes I'd be jumping at the first opportunity to go to WWE and become a bigger star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I want to see a CM Punk vs AJ Styles feud. Heel AJ would bring a "God hates a faggot" sign with him to the ring, and face CM Punk would just reply "Kill yourself", and then proceed to kill AJ. Shooty-shooty enough to get some buzz too. Of course I'd fear the wrong reaction from the WWE audience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Biggest star in the industry John Cena files for divorce: Eeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Controversial statement time: Depending on what's revealed in testimony, this could be as damaging to WWE's business as the Chris Benoit murders were. John Cena has an immaculate public persona and is beloved by children all over the world. If ugly allegations come out against the most babyface of babyfaces, it will seriously affect WWE's fan support and bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I can't see Cena's divorce becoming mainstream news, but who knows. I guess if something really jucy was to come out on a slow news day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I'm sure there will be plenty of hush-hush money spent, if that's the case. It could just be the time spent away was crippling their marriage, and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Even though he's be hurt by bad booking and being Lazy, I think Joe could work in WWE. Jeff Hardy going back might work in the short term. I like Seth Rollins in FCW more than Ambrose. If he's given a chance, he could be pretty big. Seth Rollins! Thats they other guy I was trying to think of. I agree about Joe. He's got natural storyline's with Punk, Bryan and Cena. They're all his friends who went onto fame and fortune in WWE and he got stuck in TNA. Crazy and bitter Joe out for revenge! Plus Austin likes him too. I know he doesn't have the body and all that, but Vince/WWE is gonna have to accept the fact that the talent pool is thin. And they'll have to take what they can get. I wasn't thinking so much about guys like Joe and Styles. Assuming them and guys like Storm, Roode, The Briscoes, Shelly, Sabin and the rest of their peer group all go to New York in the next few years and guys like Burke & The Hardys go back. Who's left after that? No one in ROH seems to have the same level of interest about them as the guys who were there from 2002 to 2007. Are people into Steen and Richards as much as they were Punk and Joe? TNA is TNA.They can't find their ass with both hands. Wasn't there a story recently that some guys like Austin and Funk were going to go down to FCW on their own volition to help out because they realise that wrestling is in deep shit talent wise for the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Controversial statement time: Depending on what's revealed in testimony, this could be as damaging to WWE's business as the Chris Benoit murders were. John Cena has an immaculate public persona and is beloved by children all over the world. If ugly allegations come out against the most babyface of babyfaces, it will seriously affect WWE's fan support and bottom line. I guess Make A Wish is his American Flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 The news of the day is that WWE.com actually posted the infamous Gangstas vs. Chad Austin/Blue Meanie match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Infamous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Chad Austin had pissed off New Jack sometime before the match I can't remember if it was the day of or whatever but Jack took the opportunity to beat the holy hell out of Austin during the match. Extremely stiff chair shots and hard punches. Joey Styles on commentary was even noting how serious this beating was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Infamous? Yep. It got quite abit of play at the time in the sheets and mags. Chad Austin had pissed off New Jack sometime before the match I can't remember if it was the day of or whatever but Jack took the opportunity to beat the holy hell out of Austin during the match. Extremely stiff chair shots and hard punches. Joey Styles on commentary was even noting how serious this beating was. Do we know what caused it? I remember some people at the time trying to play it off as Paul E. sending a message to Steve Austin. Which obviously wasn't the case. Those post match chairshots were brutal. That was straight up assult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Controversial statement time: Depending on what's revealed in testimony, this could be as damaging to WWE's business as the Chris Benoit murders were. John Cena has an immaculate public persona and is beloved by children all over the world. If ugly allegations come out against the most babyface of babyfaces, it will seriously affect WWE's fan support and bottom line. Won't have any impact. They got married in 2009. They got divorced in less than 3 years. No kids. It's not a big deal. There's a prenup, which is rather smart of Cena. Cena is all the one petitioning for the divorce, so it seems *unlikely* (though not impossible) that him playing the field is the cause of the divorce. There would have to be a decent amount of shit on his side for her to crack the prenup. One would think that if there were, she would be the petitioner, not him. Though it's possible that he's protecting himself by filing first before she starts tossing bombs... but that would be a little less common. We'll see in here response if there's any dirt that would reach the level of being an issue for the WWE. 95% likelihood that this will be nothing more than a blip. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Well, Cena's wife has lawyered up. And not just any lawyer, the one who represented Linda Hogan. Yes, Cena has a prenup. But so did Tiger Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 We'll see in here response if there's any dirt that would reach the level of being an issue for the WWE. 95% likelihood that this will be nothing more than a blip. Steroid allegations would be problematic. More so than in Ric Flair's divorce before the company had a Wellness policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't understand what the purpose of a prenup is if they don't matter in the end in court any damn way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 It's been a long time since I heard the story but Jack was a guy who was easy to piss off especially at that time and Austin did something to make him furious. Jack had also not too long got out of jail and he was on the edge most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'm sure that Jerry McDevitt will be lending some assistance to Cena in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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