goc Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hey, a 20 minute dialogue between Stephy & Cena leading to Cena vs ….. Kane. Hey, a new character who's gimmick is already dying. Hey, a swerve and a completely nonsensical turn. Ok. I'm done. Again. Nice try. I'm afraid I need you to narrow this down between Adam Rose, Bo Dallas, and Rusev. I think Bo is doing fine, the other two could definitely use some better booking. Yes I know everyone would have complained about the babyface being disrespectful but that Rusev segment was dying for someone to come interrupt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Meltzer on his show last night said they got bad news about Bryan. The segment last night was basically a shoot. Comeback for the PPV or your title reign is over. Tough spot for Bryan. And I think it's obvious that Rusev is a Vince project. He will get more chances to fail than Rose and Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Personally I so annoyed that I went to sleep early (2nd hour) and moreso not putting it all together: - that WWE did the "boring" statis show they do before a big main event angle - it being BIG SUMMER ANGLE season: - the premature magazine article - the trio having nowhere to go etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Well maybe I need to rethink my earlier post. If Bryan is out maybe they are transitioning to Cena v Authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hey, a 20 minute dialogue between Stephy & Cena leading to Cena vs ….. Kane. Hey, a new character who's gimmick is already dying. Hey, a swerve and a completely nonsensical turn. Ok. I'm done. Again. Nice try. I'm afraid I need you to narrow this down between Adam Rose, Bo Dallas, and Rusev. Adam Rose is the next Fandango. Bo Dallas I really don't see where this is going nor the appeal. And Rusev, well, this segment was dying out there. I'm sure he'll get more chances, but he could end up the next Broadus Clay in no time, while Lana gets a big push up her ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't have any big connection to the Shield, but I don't think they needed to be broken up. I wish that for a change wrestling would have done something different and not broken up a team. Why in wrestling does starting a singles push mean the team needs to break up and someone needs to turn? How refreshing would it have been for one of them to say, "Hey guys, we're still together, but I want to do my own thing, ya know?" It's such a stupid wrestling cliche that friendships can never last and teams can never stay together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm I the only one that think Harper is a good talker? Nope. Not only do I think he's a good talker, I think he's leaps and bounds better than Wyatt. Bray feels like a vignette that's been done to death at this point. He also doesn't come across as particularly menacing or sudden in the ring. Its a shame Harper isn't the focal point of the act because I think there's a lot more potential with him in the lead role. Wyatt's so over the top it just feels like a 2014 version of something out of the TL Hopper / Goon / Waylon Mercy character era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I slept on it and I actuall hate it more today than I did last night. Excluding stuff like "Eddie's down there!" which was both offensive and stupid, this is probably the most I've hated an angle since 2000 WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 If Bryan is pretty banged up, they should keep him off tv and build to a huge return with him winning the Rumble and challenging Lesnar at Mania. Which means we'll probably get the complete opposite of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I work in retail and posting this on my lunch break and man this angle has gotten more talk today between my co-workers and random customers just talking about it than any angle in a long while. The guys that were legitimately pissed at Rollins for turning were great with quotes like....."I hope Roman Reigns kills that bitch", "Rollins needs all the blonde knocked out of his hair", and "I bet HHH pimped out Stephanie to get Rollins to turn." Then there was the fantasy booking talk of who the Shield will bring in to help them out and what kind of payback will be coming. WWE also owns me some money because I got 4 people to subscribe to the Network just from showing them the highlights from the post-show last night because they didn't see the turn live and only heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Had a terrible premonition that Alberto del Rio will win the strap and spend the summer feuding with John Cena over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Had a terrible premonition that Alberto del Rio will win the strap and spend the summer feuding with John Cena over it. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Bo is so awkward in ring. I wish they could have given this gimmick to a better wrestler. I will say this, Bo has the weirdest looking face in the history of wrestling. I want to punch him every time I see him. I laughed at this post I saw a comment somewhere that Bo is the epitome of the troll face internet meme lol I BO-LIEVE in punching him in his stupid face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 they just can't let anything breathe anymore the shield were getting incredibly over as babyfaces, and had even become the new sex symbols for the company. they had a ton of mileage left as a face act and could have been something truly special. but noooooooooo gotta swerve the internet fans~ also given how meta this company has become anymore, i am fully expecting rollins's reasoning to be some form of "reigns was going to be the star and i didn't want to get buried in the midcard" I couldn't disagree with this post more the Shield, imo, had run it's course. Yeah, they had a fun babyface run, but what then? Where does a 3 man group go from there? If they kept the group together, who would they work with? There's nobody. This is way more interesting than keeping the Shield around as a babyface trio, imo. And I think Rollins will knock this out of the park. And it's major heat on Ambrose and Reigns. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 also, smh at comments vis a v Rollins' motivation for turning heel He was "the Architect" of the Shield. He sweat and bled and kept the unit together. HHH gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. Fuck those guys. Rollins gettin PAID and all that. He's the man now, dawg. This isn't complicated storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Can't help but chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose turn between now and the HHH/Reigns match as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I figured he'd do it first but not really surprised that one of them did it anyway. Timing of it is a bit strange, but I don't see it as the momentum killer some others here are saying it is. We'll just have to see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Can't help but chuckle. That's the best thing of his entire stint. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I actually have no problem with the Shield breaking up, I'm just not loving the way they did it. There was really nothing left for them to do as a group, but I definitely question the move to turn the most babyfaced guy in the group heel in a move that makes little sense from a motivation standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 they just can't let anything breathe anymore the shield were getting incredibly over as babyfaces, and had even become the new sex symbols for the company. they had a ton of mileage left as a face act and could have been something truly special. but noooooooooo gotta swerve the internet fans~ also given how meta this company has become anymore, i am fully expecting rollins's reasoning to be some form of "reigns was going to be the star and i didn't want to get buried in the midcard" I couldn't disagree with this post more the Shield, imo, had run it's course. Yeah, they had a fun babyface run, but what then? Where does a 3 man group go from there? If they kept the group together, who would they work with? There's nobody. This is way more interesting than keeping the Shield around as a babyface trio, imo. And I think Rollins will knock this out of the park. And it's major heat on Ambrose and Reigns. I love it. WWE has a proven formula for "aces" and i think they could have successfully adapted it to a trios group. have them wrestle more and more singles matches over time, while staying together and saving the 6-man format for the biggest matches. this is probably too much to ask realistically though, given how many times they ran shield-wyatts on free TV... but more than that, i strongly agree with the people who didn't want a "breakup". have them do their own thing but stay close to each other, knowing that at any time the band could get back together. THAT is what wrestling doesn't do nearly enough of, i think. maybe i'm weird but i felt like the shield had the best chance of anyone atm to be this generation's hogan/austin/what have you. they just hit a lot more notes with a lot more audiences than even bryan does. i suspect they're a victim of the idea that only one guy can be the Ace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose turn between now and the HHH/Reigns match as well. I could definitely see this as well, but man, Ambrose as a babyface has been such a revelation. I pegged him as a natural heel but he's been such an incredible baby who takes amazing beatings with well worked comebacks that I don't want him turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 If they knew Bryan might not be ready for MITB the .brie angle on Sunday doesn't make much sense. Unless she really is leaving or they are building something for down the line. Why quit if four weeks later he has to relinquish the title anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Working wise I think it will be an adjustment for Rollins, but I think he will be okay. While he was better as a face, he worked fine as a heel both in tags and singles matches for the first year of The Shield's run. The Shield, as great as they are/were, didn't exactly turn in inspired heel work from what I've seen of their PPV matches, which is probably why they were already earning cheers as "cool heels" even before the turn. They've always been heels by association - they've relied on the "the numbers game" for beatdowns, but they've also taken that approach for their face work against the Authority. That's Wrestling Faction 101 stuff, no matter what side you're working on. More importantly, Rollins and Reigns spent most of their time in the tag division simply going toe-to-toe with their opponents. Outside of Rollins attacking Rey Mysterio after his elimination from the Survivor Series tag match, they didn't do a ton of deliberate heeling in the ring that I can recall. They yanked the Usos off of the apron to cutoff a Goldust tag attempt in their Hell in the Cell triple threat tag match, but that's not really heelish as much as it is smart. And Rollins' typical role within those tag matches was transitioning into and feeding the hot tag. His finisher is a nice spot but, outside of his middle turnbuckle stun gun spot, his control work in the PPV matches that I've seen consisted of rapid double-teams and pedestrian offense. More than once, he ate the opposing team's finisher to either end the match (Battleground, HitC) or open up the legal man to a spear from Reigns that would turn the tide or maybe even win the match (the six-man at WM29). Hell, he spent most of his time in the TLC handicap match giving Punk offense. Sure, part of Rollins' lack of opportunity to shine as a heel may be by design; Reigns was very clearly the guy they wanted to protect in the Shield, so that severely limited their options for structuring any kind of vulnerability into their tag matches that didn't compromise Rollins in the process. (The fact that Rollins is willing and able to take flashier bumps doesn't hurt either.) But Rollins never really stood out with what time he had as a heel anyway -- his stock only started to pick up once they started facing heels and he could open up with more aerial offense. Shawn Michaels was in a very similar situation when he turned -- even though his offense as a heel was laughable, he could bump like a fiend -- but he could also work around those limitations by being incredibly charismatic. Unless there's something amazing hidden in Rollins that we haven't seen, he doesn't have that same safety net. also, smh at comments vis a v Rollins' motivation for turning heel He was "the Architect" of the Shield. He sweat and bled and kept the unit together. HHH gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. Fuck those guys. Rollins gettin PAID and all that. He's the man now, dawg. This isn't complicated storytelling. This whole angle started with them already working for the Authority as their enforcers -- they broke ranks once they found out that HHH had orchestrated the attack on them right before Wrestlemania XXX. Why would Rollins, only twenty-four hours after going to war with these guys, trust anything that HHH would offer him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I can kinda get the "they could go their separate ways as singles and be friends" idea, but really, what is the point of that? there wasn't anything left for the Shield to do as a unit. They were teasing a breakup last fall and it was surprising to an extent that they didn't jump the gun, kept them together, and milked a babyface run out of them. What else could you do with them as a trio at this point? I know everyone expected Ambrose to be the one to turn and break them up, but I like this way way better, because Ambrose is so money as a babyface right now. If Ambrose turned a ton of people would have bitched about it, only because people had been predicting him to turn for months and months. The Shield was getting played out IMO, there wasn't anything left to do with them than have someone turn and break up the group. Of the whole Shield/Wyatts series my favorite was the one where Seth walked out on them because of all the bitter infighting and it forced Ambrose and Reigns to be bros. I feel like this a nice continuation of the story. I think Rollins will be fantastic in this role and I'm already digging the idea of Reigns and Ambrose "US AGAINST THE WORLD" babyfaces with their backs against the wall. lot of mileage there, plus there will be an undercurrent of "maybe Ambrose will turn too...." which, he probably will, at some point, but they can get like 6 months out of this booking wise A lot of people complain about long-term booking and inconsistency etc, I don't see anything inconsistent about this at all. And the Shield were a group for like 2 years! It was time to mix it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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