The Man in Blak Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I went back and watched some of Paige's previous work in NXT and she does tend to give away a lot of her matches there too, but nothing to the extent of her WWE run. And it's not like she doesn't have the offense to work with - her fisherman suplex looks solid and she can certainly lay in some decent kicks and dropkicks to the midsection. But, for whatever reason, she's leaving virtually all of it on the table right now. It's really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 And it's not like she doesn't have the offense to work with - her fisherman suplex looks solid and she can certainly lay in some decent kicks and dropkicks to the midsection. But, for whatever reason, she's leaving virtually all of it on the table right now. It's really weird. She has had that problem - let's call it a lack of assertiveness going back to her days on the indies. Her role was being soundly beaten by her opponents. The only time she went 50/50 with her opponent from what I've seen were in matches with her mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Dave has said that how Paige is working now was someone's idea for her -- get beat up the whole match, then get her finisher and pull off the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I'm wondering who was dense enough to think that would go over. But a lot of it is simply the inattention WWE gives to the division. How you work a match can only take you so far if fans have no idea who you are or have no reason to care. There's no heel fans hate in the division anyway for her to feud with until Charlotte gets called up or AJ returns. The Alicia thing is cute but has anyone actually had their career improved by a losing streak/whining gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's how Jericho's career making heel run in WCW started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Paige was sort of a Mad Max Warrior in NXT. This is pretty far off of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 She plays to the Warrior Queen-persona a lot when she is actually getting in offense. This means that she should never get in offense according to Team Vince logic, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 anyone else see Smackdown? I thought Rollins and Ziggler had a real good match. If this Shield situation means we'll get months of Rollins floating around having awesome matches with everyone then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I can definitely see Rollins transitioning from the workhorse of The Shield to the workhorse of The Authority. His turn makes sense in that respect, as HHH won't want to be working every week and Orton has wrestled the entire roster time after time. Having Rollins wrestle for them every week keeps things ticking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'll just leave this here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Crown that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 news from Meltz F4W All the segments with Bryan lately have been put together by Vince. He is personally overseeing all of his angles and the direction of the title. I had thought this while watching as he is probably speaking through Steph. they booked a stretcher match with Bryan and Kane because they want the feud to continue past the PPV. At this point the company does not expect Bryan will be able to work the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If they are dead-set on the Kane/Bryan feud AND want it to keep going, I hope Bryan does get stripped of the title. Is anyone clamoring for that match, let alone feud? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I wonder if they will wait until the day of the PPV to see if Bryan will work. After tomorrow there are two more Raws before the PPV. It's also no surprise that with Vince booking this that Kane is being pushed to this spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'll just leave this here...... Freaking love that guy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 So if Daniel Bryan can't come back in time for MITB, who do you think they put the title on in the MITB Ladder match? I would assume we'll see Cena, Orton, Wyatt & Cesaro all get added to the match since there's no way Alberto Del Rio is winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If the title goes back to Cena or Orton, it's going to be a long summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'd be surprised if they go that direction, even if it's hard to see other options. I know they won't, but giving Ziggler the title if Bryan is forced to forfeit would be the best option in terms of fan goodwill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Do we have any sense of whether Ziggler actually moves metrics? Or is it just a vocal part of the live audience that is behind him? It could be the illusion of goodwill. Over at DVDVR, I said they should put it on Brock and I still think they should. That way they could even play up his absence as a strength, that his contract lets him have the time between fights he had in MMA but they can't strip him of the belt and that he's basically holding WWE hostage and no one can stop him. You could have Heyman basically running things with Cesaro (holding a secondary belt that in Brock's absence becomes a primary belt), and play up Bryan as sort of the savior of the WWE in trying to get the belt back when he's healthy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Ziegler's certainly lost enough this year to win the title. I wonder if they stick Rusev in MITB to transition to a Cena program. It's still too early, but Cena facing a monster heel sounds like a safe bet for Summerslam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I kind of think Bray Wyatt wouldn't be a bad choice. Would be a good person for Daniel Bryan to chase for the title at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I've said since the moment Bryan's surgery was announced that they should have stripped him of the title right away and made move to put it on Bray. Keeping the title on Bryan through all of this is doing nothing good for anyone. Stripping him wouldn't have hurt him and it's actually undermining the whole authority angle because why the hell after months of trying to run him down would they not take the first opportunity to strip him? The only reason anyone has given for why they haven't stripped him is a throwaway line from Stephanie that she didn't want to "make him a martyr"...uh what the fuck have you guys been doing since Summerslam then? It makes no kayfabe sense to keep the title on him and it actively hurts the rest of the show because it leaves a lot of guys in limbo. Plus getting stripped of the title and coming back to win it again would only make Bryan hotter. This company is so fucking obtuse sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Part of me thinks if he can't wrestle at the PPV, a fan favorite babyface should at least be the one to win Money In The Bank so people don't feel completely and totally ripped off. So Ziggler came to mind, even if it's just for a short run. I think Dolph could make Brock look like a million bucks in dropping the title to him too, and it's not like they'd be sacrificing someone that's a key player in their future plans to do it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If Bryan can return on schedule and doesn't have to forfeit the title, I reckon we're looking at: - Cesaro wins MITB. - Lesnar returns prior to Summerslam, demands a title match since he conquered the streak. - Lesnar beats Bryan at Summerslam to raise the title, Cesaro cashes in and officially turns face, he narrowly defeats a weakened Lesnar to win the title. - Lesnar goes mad on the post Summerslam Raw, demands that as a Heyman guy, Cesaro relenquishes the title to him, Cesaro refuses, Heyman can't do shit so Brock "quits" again. - DB moves onto another feud, WWE gets time to experiment with Cesaro on top, probably goes into feud against Heyman's next guy. At some point following this: - Lesnar returns, has his revenge match against Cesaro - Bryan regains the title, possibly doing a heel turn at some point because WWE will be running Cena, Cesaro, and Reigns all as the top faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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