Jmare007 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 He stopped a crime with a broken freaking neck! Seriously though. Another interesting chapter for his upcoming book, this last few months have been nothing but bad news for the guy. edit: His press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvWsYKc3FFw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm imagining Vince going on in his 80s announcer voice about how MANLY Bryan is for doing this while Hunter kicks rocks while muttering "so what, I would have caught BOTH robbers". In fact, he should say that in his next troll promo on Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 On that press conference Bryan pretty much confirmed he needs another surgery. I'm imagining Vince going on in his 80s announcer voice about how MANLY Bryan is for doing this while Hunter kicks rocks while muttering "so what, I would have caught BOTH robbers". In fact, he should say that in his next troll promo on Raw. Hopefully they show the real story before Hunter cuts that promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Watched the conference. Some of its pretty funny, especially when the cameraman zooms in on the dog when Bryan's telling a story. The WWE would be stupid not to mention/show some of the press coverage on this on Monday, right? I'm not saying using it in an angle, but this is some pretty good free PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I have no doubt in my mind that this happening raised Bryan's stock with Vince much more than any great match or promo or whatever could possibly do and this will no doubt be used in the Brie/Steph stuff on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Agreed, considering Vince doesn't like to push guys he doesn't think could win fights for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Man the Ambrose and Cesaro matches have been disappointing for two guys at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 How was Reigns vs Del Rio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 a big reason belts don't matter any more is all the stupid fucking non-title matches they run on TV. The IC and US champs seem to wrestle in more non-title matches than they do title matches. If the title isn't even important enough to be the centerpiece of the title-holder's matches then what's the point of it? And, even more absurd is that the few times that they make genuine effort to make the title seem important (Miz/Bryan, Dolph/Ryder, Regal/Punk) the fans totally get behind it and the reaction to the babyface finally winning out is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Man the Ambrose and Cesaro matches have been disappointing for two guys at that levelI haven't seen them yet, but sometimes two great guys don't click, at least not right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Catching up on NXT lately and don't get me wrong because obviously if you pull 49 women off the street and lined them up alongside Charlotte, she's probably top ten hot/attractive, but in the scope of who they have right now in the WWE, I am not getting the Charlotte push at all as a pretty girl. They should be playing up her family lineage although I do know it would probably put extra pressure on her to always be compared to the guy most folks consider the greatest wrestler of all time. Maybe strike a good balance between the Flair thing and her natural athleticism? The BFF push just doesn't suit her IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Bill Watts would be crowing about what DB did to anyone who would listen. This is much better than a drunk guy picking a fight in a bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Bill Watts would be crowing about what DB did to anyone who would listen. This is much better than a drunk guy picking a fight in a bar. I thought the same thing. We'd hear about this for the next twenty years, kinda like the Dr. Death stories that turned him babyface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 How was Reigns vs Del Rio? It was decent for what it was and about what you'd expect. Lots of control segments by Del Rio allowing him to lead Reigns through the match. Occasional hope spots with Reigns trying to punch his way out of restholds and such. Then eventually the surge from Regins to hit his big spots leading to the finish. I thought Del Rio did a really god job carrying the match. Reigns seriously has like 4 moves in his arsenal. It's kind of ridiculous. How long before people turn on him when they realize he's no better than Cena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Does Reigns have a common perception on his ability as a worker? Obviously a big group of people think Cena sucks even if that really isn't true. People might not turn on Reigns if they perceive him as a superior worker, probably by getting spots over, even if he lacks anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 No better than Cena is the opposite of damning someone with faint praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Reigns has cool spots that are over.....but he's lacking in a lot of other stuff in ring. I think he has the talent and aptitude to get a lot better, but he needs time. And the WWE "workrate" bar has been set pretty high, and top guys are expected to go out and have good, long, exciting matches, especially when they're main eventing PPVs. They're really just rushing him right now when he could use a few years of seasoning as a singles wrestler to prep him. I make the comparison to Cena in the sense that, when they realized they had something with him, they put him in a title match with Lesnar kind of out of nowhere and it was a sound defeat, but it was kind of like showing the fans, "this guy is going to be a legit threat soon". Then they put him in a great program with Eddie which I think really helped Cena and made people take him seriously. Then they turned him face and got him involved with the Benoit/Lesnar/Heyman program on SD and that got him more over. Then they built up to him against Big Show for the US title at WM, made it the opening match, and him FU'ing Show and winning the US title was a huge moment and a memorable WM moment. Then they spent the next year slowly building him up with various feuds on SD revolving around the US title, until they got to the next WM and put the WWE title on him. And then as champ, it took him another 6-9 months or so to really get where they wanted him to be. It was a slow, gradual process. I feel like they really skip over these steps nowadays, push guys too fast, and then when they don't overnight succeed they're dispatched to the revolving door upper-midcard hell and it's really hard for them to break out of it I worry about Reigns for this reason, and because their audience is much "smarter" and more vocal now. They do think on their toes and change course sometimes, but they've pre-ordained Roman as their next "guy" so who knows Wouldn't it be better, if they've decided to push him to the top this fast, to have him like Goldberg? Control segments on Roman and babyface comebacks don't work. He should be a destroyer, who, if you need to drag the match out longer than 5-6 minutes, make it all the heel backing off and finding ways to NOT get engaged with Roman 1 on 1. That's what they did with Goldberg, and it worked, and when guys DID have longer matches (DDP and Sting come to mind) that actually saw Goldberg selling and on the ropes a bit it made them really memorable. Reigns working boring shitty matches with Orton and Del Rio on tv doesn't do him any favors, and I say that as a fan of all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Reigns talk ties in with something I've been thinking about a lot lately; I think match quality is more important to the average WWE fan than ever before, but I'm not sure if there's much to said average fan's understanding of "match quality" other than workrate + cool moves. So you end up with this weird dichotomy where Cena is hated by some 60% of the audience, gets loud "you can't wrestle" chants but is probably better at getting those same fans into his matches than almost anyone else on the roster. Meanwhile other guys, and Reigns is one of them, get a big reaction for their entrance but crickets during their matches with the exception of the inevitable "this is awesome" chants after they bust out a couple of cool spots. It's a strange dynamic and I'm not sure what it really means for the success or failure of Reigns as the future top guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 On that press conference Bryan pretty much confirmed he needs another surgery. This feels like Austin part 2. Hopefully he'll stop using the diving headbutt and taking so many heavy bumps. He's literally playing the rag doll in matches against or featuring Kane, Triple H, and Batista who are all over 40, massive, and have their own rap sheets of injuries that prevents noticeable athleticism in their matches. Some of the chokeslam bumps Bryan took earlier this year from Kane looked nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Cesaro and Ambrose will do better but the Smackdown match was good for what it was. The superplex and Dean's resulting bump was the highlight. I didn't really think much of ADR vs Reigns. Reigns is a guy that obviously has a lot of natural charisma, yet the more I see the more vanilla he feels. He's pushed as a powerhouse but he isn't particularly big or powerful. The apron dropkick is a cool idea at first but it's silly when you see it every match. I not a fan of his look either; the vest is too tag team, the trousers ugly, and the hair needs a cuttin'. I like him but he's a major work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 So 411 via PWInsider via WrestleZone is reporting that WWE told Cesaro to stop doing the Swing because it had gotten too over with the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Anyone here see the PWInsider report that can confirm that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 well obviously someone told him to stop using it because he hasn't used it in several weeks and I can't imagine he just got rid of his most over spot voluntarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think Meltz mentioned the swing deal recently saying that it was a babyface spot and while he was with Heyman they told him to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 so Batista did some press from Guardians and seemed to imply his whole babyface return was Vince's idea. He warned him the cheering would last about 12 seconds or so but they went forward anyway. Dave comes across as such a cool down to earth guy in interviews. None of went down from January to Mania was any of his fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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