Badlittlekitten Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Couldn't really get into the world champ match cos we've already seen Cena beat ADR with a hurt arm before and there was zero chance of him losing tonight. Alright for what it was. I could do without ADR being in the title picture again to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cena/ADR was pretty good, but the lack of heat hurt it a lot. It kind of reminded me of a 2005 Cena match where he'd get his ass kicked for 90% of the match and hit an FU out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Thought the opening stretch was pretty dull but once it got going it was pretty fun WWE workrate style stuff. Basically an inferior version of their last PPV match though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Del Rio v. Cena was real good for the type of match they worked. Lots of big spots, but there was enough selling in between where it didnt' feel like over kill. It built well to the finish and I thought Cena was real good in it. I just wish Del Rio wasn't so flat as a character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cena vs. Del Rio (WHC) Â This was a helluva match. Both guys looked great in this particularly Cena taking Del Rio's offense. Del Rio did a nasty Fuerza bump. Cena did a great Dustin bump. The build to the armbreaker was well done. I loved Del Rio reaching the ropes with a fingertip during the STF. The finish is not my favorite Cena finish at all but I thought this match built better toward it than other matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 BIG JOHNNY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cena vs. Del Rio - This matchup feels like Orton-Bryan where the match is fine but there is nothing to get excited about. Good match but I don't care for the match-up if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cena vs. Del Rio - This matchup feels like Orton-Bryan where the match is fine but there is nothing to get excited about. Good match but I don't care for the match-up if that makes sense. Completely agree with this, though I thought it was better than good as a stand alone match. Â Speaking of matches I don't care about even though there are guys I like involved, here comes the Wyatts v. Punk/Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 When you can't buy a single near fall in a match, not a single one of them, I'm not entertained by the match. So that Cena/Del Rio match was not good to me, or decent, or even serviceable. It was same old shit. Del Rio is just SO FUCKING BLAND. Â I pretty much never want to see him ever. He makes me not care. He's just a 2013 Dino Bravo to me: no fucks given. I know some peeps dig him, totally cool with that, but he's not my cup of tea at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 When you can't buy a single near fall in a match, not a single one of them, I'm not entertained by the match. So that Cena/Del Rio match was not good to me, or decent, or even serviceable. It was same old shit. Del Rio is just SO FUCKING BLAND. Â I pretty much never want to see him ever. He makes me not care. He's just a 2013 Dino Bravo to me: no fucks given. I know some peeps dig him, totally cool with that, but he's not my cup of tea at all. I think Del Rio is a very good worker, but it's hard to argue on his behalf at this point as his character is completely flat and the booking only makes it worse. Â Of course I feel like that about a lot of guys, including Punk who has been change the channel level horrific as a promo/character for the majority of this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 When you can't buy a single near fall in a match, not a single one of them, I'm not entertained by the match. So that Cena/Del Rio match was not good to me, or decent, or even serviceable. It was same old shit. Del Rio is just SO FUCKING BLAND.  I pretty much never want to see him ever. He makes me not care. He's just a 2013 Dino Bravo to me: no fucks given. I know some peeps dig him, totally cool with that, but he's not my cup of tea at all. I think Del Rio is a very good worker, but it's hard to argue on his behalf at this point as his character is completely flat and the booking only makes it worse.  Of course I feel like that about a lot of guys, including Punk who has been change the channel level horrific as a promo/character for the majority of this year  Like, I can't even argue! He's so talented. He should have been huge... just bad booking, man. Build him up as this big star then he loses in the curtain jerk of 'Mania after winning the biggest Rumble ever. He's been heel/face multiple times already, has nothing but rematches, been champ multiple times already...they burned through an entire wrestling career in like two years. Poor guy. Now he doesn't even have the stuff that used to make him unique, like the cars or Ricardo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I fucking loved Cena/ Del Rio. And Peyton is owning Brady. Great night thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 When you can't buy a single near fall in a match, not a single one of them, I'm not entertained by the match. So that Cena/Del Rio match was not good to me, or decent, or even serviceable. It was same old shit. Del Rio is just SO FUCKING BLAND.  I pretty much never want to see him ever. He makes me not care. He's just a 2013 Dino Bravo to me: no fucks given. I know some peeps dig him, totally cool with that, but he's not my cup of tea at all. I think Del Rio is a very good worker, but it's hard to argue on his behalf at this point as his character is completely flat and the booking only makes it worse.  Of course I feel like that about a lot of guys, including Punk who has been change the channel level horrific as a promo/character for the majority of this year  Like, I can't even argue! He's so talented. He should have been huge... just bad booking, man. Build him up as this big star then he loses in the curtain jerk of 'Mania after winning the biggest Rumble ever. He's been heel/face multiple times already, has nothing but rematches, been champ multiple times already...they burned through an entire wrestling career in like two years. Poor guy. Now he doesn't even have the stuff that used to make him unique, like the cars or Ricardo.  ??? He has only turned babyface ONCE, and had a run for about eight months before turning heel but it never felt like they explored everything they could with the babyface character. An uninspired patriotic Mexican run constitutes all they could do for him? Hell his heel character hasn't even been explored beyond the caricature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The beginning of the Wyatts matched bored me pretty thoroughly but once we got to the segment with Bryan v. Harper everything was pretty good. The Bryan/Harper stuff was really good and I could see that match being great. Pretty hot stuff after that though not really exceptional. Harper's selling of the GTS was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Harper is so great that Rowan becomes watchable through osmosis but I did like him throwing the sheep mask at Punk to try and derail the hot tag. I enjoyed the powerbomb spot but agree that as a whole, it felt a bit flat. They've definitely kept a certain aura around Wyatt himself since there's been a few times now where they've teased him brawling with guys and the crowd has popped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Bryan/Punk vs. Wyatts  This was really bad at it's worst and really fun at it's best. Harper was good in this and worked his ass off. The top rope sit-down powerbomb, Punk getting tossed to the floor by Rowan, the splash to the floor by Punk, and Bryan's face shine were all fun. The finish was really bad. Punk and Bryan should not have won but then again it wouldn't have meant much if the Wyatt's had won either. Overall, this was okay I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Much like Del Rio v. Cena, that was a solid match I didn't care about. Agree that it got noticeably better when Bryan tagged in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I laughed when JBL told Cole to stop using pronouns and Cole's response was "I wonder who told you that". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The Punk-in-peril section of the tag match was pretty dull, but the Bryan-in-peril section was great. "One guy has to go it alone because his partner got taken out" might be my favorite tag match storyline. I would've liked to see a couple of instances where Bryan tried to tag out but couldn't because Punk wasn't there, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Q. Murder Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 That powerbomb was nuts. Also probably the best Bryan has ever hit the knee. Harper is so great at selling the GTS... and pretty great at everything else. Very bland until Bryan got his tag but was fun towards the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I don't even know what they're doing with this angle, and not in a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Wyatts vs. Best Beard - I think the biggest problem is that Punk isn't a very compelling FIP. Combine that with Rowan and the early run was lukewarm. I thought Punk-Harper was good and Bryan-Harper was good as well. Hot finish so no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Crowd's turning on the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efrim Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Crowd seems very dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Wow that was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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