soup23 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 http://placetobenation.com/ptbn-reaction-show-fastlane-2016/ Will, Pete and Johnny Sorrow (Titans of Wrestling, This Week in Wrestling), Kris Zellner (Exile on BadStreet, Between the Sheets), Dylan Hales (Wrestling Culture) are here to discuss the 2016 edition of WWE Fastlane. What did the panel think of the booking of the main event? How excited are they heading into WrestleMania. Is AJ Styles being treated well in WWE so far? Is Bray Wyatt vs. Brock Lesnar a thing of the past? All of these questions and more are answered in the latest reaction show extravaganza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Does the political hit talk make Johnny froth at the mouth like a rabid dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think it breaks Skype. Sorry about the technical issues in the last 15-20 minutes but the passion is certainly there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Poor Johnny! The political hit stuff is undeniable, but did y'all have to go so hard on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMPunk Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Johnny is Paulie Walnuts, "Hey T, it's cause he played an Hispanic" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Starting the show now. Just to let you guys know, the MP3 shows both Will and Johnny's last names. Not sure that was intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 The boys speculating on who is going to win the Vincent J. McMahon award put such a huge smile on my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Starting the show now. Just to let you guys know, the MP3 shows both Will and Johnny's last names. Not sure that was intended. Thanks Bucky, that should be removed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Starting the show now. Just to let you guys know, the MP3 shows both Will and Johnny's last names. Not sure that was intended. That's a skype recorder thing (shows them as artists) - I re-edited and removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 "Artists" is quite the stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I can't quite reconcile the Roman Reigns is getting politically held down for reasons unclear despite being in two back-to-back WrestleMania main events while the other 3/4s of the internet will argue he is getting pushed down their throats despite him getting cut off on the knees every other week. To answer that particular question YES they are rediculously incompetent and have booked Roman terribly. For evidence of this, look at every other part of the show which is booked terribly which includes the entire show. Is regards to using dirt sheets as gospel, I would remind the panel that it has been reported that Undertaker is facing 3 dozen different people including Braun Strowman, John Cena, 'a person not currently employeed by the company' and El Dandy. They either aren't always right or this is going to be one glorious 7 way ladder match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm not sure that this stuff would be any different if Rollins was placed against HHH. Rollins comes out first to generic theme music after a video package is aired showing HHH cutting promos about how he was nothing before he made him. Rollins gets no rebuttal. Before HHH enters there's a 12 minute into showing all the people he's steamrolled over at Mania set to a Motorhead song (RIP Lemmy graphic needs to be shown to maximize babyface pop). HHH comes to the ring on an albino elephant that has Frank Frazetta paintings on it and mounted machine guns for some reason. A Lemmy hologram is present, Coachella style. HHH points to the sky, dedicating the match to Lemmy. Maybe he carries out his C. Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence. Or it's carried to the ring on a dais by all the NXT girls. How can you not love the bastard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm not sure that this stuff would be any different if Rollins was placed against HHH. Rollins comes out first to generic theme music after a video package is aired showing HHH cutting promos about how he was nothing before he made him. Rollins gets no rebuttal. Before HHH enters there's a 12 minute into showing all the people he's steamrolled over at Mania set to a Motorhead song (RIP Lemmy graphic needs to be shown to maximize babyface pop). HHH comes to the ring on an albino elephant that has Frank Frazetta paintings on it and mounted machine guns for some reason. A Lemmy hologram is present, Coachella style. HHH points to the sky, dedicating the match to Lemmy. Maybe he carries out his C. Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence. Or it's carried to the ring on a dais by all the NXT girls. How can you not love the bastard? The only real difference would be that in that case Rollins would be more clearly the heel while in this situation the "political hit" theory is that HHH is doing all the same stuff to make himself the face under VKM's noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm not sure that this stuff would be any different if Rollins was placed against HHH. Rollins comes out first to generic theme music after a video package is aired showing HHH cutting promos about how he was nothing before he made him. Rollins gets no rebuttal. Before HHH enters there's a 12 minute into showing all the people he's steamrolled over at Mania set to a Motorhead song (RIP Lemmy graphic needs to be shown to maximize babyface pop). HHH comes to the ring on an albino elephant that has Frank Frazetta paintings on it and mounted machine guns for some reason. A Lemmy hologram is present, Coachella style. HHH points to the sky, dedicating the match to Lemmy. Maybe he carries out his C. Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence. Or it's carried to the ring on a dais by all the NXT girls. How can you not love the bastard? What makes this funny is that all of what you mentioned has a realistic shot of happening at Mania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dragon Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm in what I call "Horses not Zebras" camp regarding the hit stuff. WWE has completely fucked up the booking of a guy who seems like a handpicked star. Is this either because A: There is a political hit against him or B: Because the WWE has failed at booking anyone effectively for years now. The obvious answer is usually the correct one. And if they have a hit out on Reigns, then they must really hate the rest of their entire roster since they've basically sacrificed the entire thing just to get Roman over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 The theory isn't that all of WWE has a hit on Reigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm in what I call "Horses not Zebras" camp regarding the hit stuff. WWE has completely fucked up the booking of a guy who seems like a handpicked star. Is this either because A: There is a political hit against him or B: Because the WWE has failed at booking anyone effectively for years now. The obvious answer is usually the correct one. And if they have a hit out on Reigns, then they must really hate the rest of their entire roster since they've basically sacrificed the entire thing just to get Roman over. What about C. Vince has kept getting cold feet because of the crowd reaction and therefore the push has been muddled / lacked conviction, but then injuries forced them to go back to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 The theory isn't that all of WWE has a hit on Reigns. So just Triple H then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Can't wait for the Warren Commission report on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 It's probably more of a manifesto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 The sledgehammer came from the left and went up, made a U turn... A second sledgehammer...er! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Is this really that far fetched to people? People accept that the Kliq held down Bam Bam Bigalow, got Shane Douglas fired, and that HHH talked HBK into not wanting to job to Bret Hart and actually gave them the idea for the screw job. All of that was before HHH was in a position of power within the company why would you not believe that a guy you has a history of using political power to hold people down wouldn't be doing it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Is this really that far fetched to people? People accept that the Kliq held down Bam Bam Bigalow, got Shane Douglas fired, and that HHH talked HBK into not wanting to job to Bret Hart and actually gave them the idea for the screw job. All of that was before HHH was in a position of power within the company why would you not believe that a guy you has a history of using political power to hold people down wouldn't be doing it again? To me, it's because in the last 6 years I've seen WWE constantly fuck up the booking of everything that either looks promising, has huge potential or they need to not fuck up. I believe in their incompetence before a political hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Is this really that far fetched to people? People accept that the Kliq held down Bam Bam Bigalow, got Shane Douglas fired, and that HHH talked HBK into not wanting to job to Bret Hart and actually gave them the idea for the screw job. All of that was before HHH was in a position of power within the company why would you not believe that a guy you has a history of using political power to hold people down wouldn't be doing it again? Because it's not 1996 and he doesn't have to do these things to protect his spot? He's part of the McMahon family and the corporate structure of the company. Holding people down now only hurts his kids' inheritance. I'm an 'incompetence, not conspiracy' kind of girl. They just really are that dumb, as has been shown by basically...almost everything in the last decade or so, and particularly the last few years. They think they're pushing Roman, it isn't working, and they don't know how to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 The one thing about the political hit theory that I've always wondered about is that Kris mentioned in a Reaction show a while back saying Roman was Triple H's guy and Big E was Vince's guy coming up from NXT. I want more clarification on that cause I'm not a current Observer subscriber. We all know that they protected the hell out of Roman when he was in the Shield and Punk confirmed it. Now, when did Roman fall out of being Triple H's guy and why did Rollins become his guy. It's interesting cause when watching WWE 24 as Rollins say "We run this joint" after he won the title around Cesaro and Sami Zayn in a non kayfabe environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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