Dylan Waco Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Lucha dies another death. One thing I want to note that may not be clear to some people. While I find the final results interesting, the key thing for me with this project was that I would be happy with my ballot when all was said and done. Like everyone else I'll complain about the final results, but egotistical or not, the top 100 GWE to me is the ballot I submitted. As such I'm much more annoyed by minor things on my ballot I'd like to change than where HHH ended up, or the fact that lucha is getting hosed. I hope others can appreciate that the bitching and complaining in this thread is a fun part of the process for many of us, while also understanding that the collective results are naturally going to lead to these sort of responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Losing Blackwell and Morgan is not a great way to start the morning. True that. Pirata barely missed my list, so he's about where I'd have him. But since there's guys I'd have lower yet to come, it still feels sad :-( But That's another great thing about this reveal :-) It just keeps being fun and cool and engaging and frustrating! ... I'm more and more convinced I won't be the high vote on anyone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Lucha dies another death. One thing I want to note that may not be clear to some people. While I find the final results interesting, the key thing for me with this project was that I would be happy with my ballot when all was said and done. Like everyone else I'll complain about the final results, but egotistical or not, the top 100 GWE to me is the ballot I submitted. As such I'm much more annoyed by minor things on my ballot I'd like to change than where HHH ended up, or the fact that lucha is getting hosed. I hope others can appreciate that the bitching and complaining in this thread is a fun part of the process for many of us, while also understanding that the collective results are naturally going to lead to these sort of responses. Totally agree with everything in this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Reveal schedule: Sat, April 16: 119-110 Sun, April 17: 109-101 Mon, April 18: 100-91 Tue, April 19: 90-81 Wed, April 20: 80-71 Thu, April 21: 70-61 Fri, April 22: 60-51 Sat, April 23: 50-41 Sun, April 24: 40-31 Mon, April 25: 30-22 Tue, April 26: 21-16 Wed, April 27: 15-11 Thu, April 28: 10-6 Fri, April 29: 5-3 Sat, April 30: 2-1 My wife is due to give birth to our second son on April 28. Hopefully he's on time so he can take in the full top 10 reveal. Love this :-) Great timing, and congratulations man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Ooof... I hope Matt is still sleeping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 The reactions to the lucha names make me feel guilty. I did not have the time to check luha eyond the consensus GOATs, so I was too ignorant to rank them. Lucha and WoS will be my priorities; hopefully, there is a 2026 poll as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I hoped lucha would do better to be honest. I might cry if a luchador doesn't make the top ten. I wanna see the names Hardy, Generico, Cesaro and Christian before the top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Both Hardys have already been revealed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Every time someone says they didn't have time I keep thinking: "you had two years." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 A few things. Hogan was a major part if two HUGE booms for wrestling in the U.S. during his run. The fact that he rode both booms right into the ground should work against him for sure. But he was the reason people tuned in to wrestling in the first place. So he deserves to be this high. Oh, and I HATE Hogan, so please let him fall sooner rather than later. The whole HHH drama got way overdone. Hate the guy all you want, but don't make it into something that supports the idea of HHH he likes to propagate. My personal choice involves ignoring the fact that he exists. Much less stress for me and doesn't play into HHH's supposed importance. Brilliant reveal and build to it though. Which leads me to: Grimmas you magnificent, carny bastard. Saddest thing for me is that you aren't a pro wrestler or promoter. Seems to me you have been putting in a lot of great work so far on this. And I mean work in a wrestling way just as much as any other way. You know where the highspots are and you build the audience up for them perfectly. Then you present them with the right amount of flair and showmanship. I'm trying to think of a way I'd have the list the way it is revealed that is more entertaining (or pr wrestling!) and coming up empty. Major kudos, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I was so high on laughter from KENTA being right above Triple H and Triple H being in his picture, and then I saw Pirata Morgan. Damn you all! Morgan made my top 20 and I think at his peak was the best trios worker of all time. Sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Grimmas, did you rank Pirata Morgan? I need to make three back on you some how, lucha guys falling is my great hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Grimmas, did you rank Pirata Morgan? I need to make three back on you some how, lucha guys falling is my great hope. Of course I did, Pirata was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 The KENTA pic is a wonderful troll. Well done again ! Jerry Blackwell could have made my list. I love him as a heel. I'm not that fond of his babyface work sadly, which is probably why he didn't made the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Blackwell went from honorable mention to 118 - obv footage / discussion related but an impressive jump. He's my 15th down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB8 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Pirata Morgan as the latest guy to drop isn't really helping this hangover (which, maybe ironically enough, was brought on by Captain Morgan himself). Black Terry Kikuchi Kandori Reed Otsuka Sano Takayama Blackwell Pirata Morgan All names from my list that dropped since last night, some of whom landed in my top 50. I never really expected Reed to make the top 100, but he's my favourite wrestler ever behind only Eddie Guerrero and I hoped that he would make it to the big dance. He had a good run, though. 32 soldiers from my list have fallen now. Doubt I'll have more than 60 left by the time we hit the top 100. Also, the HHH reveal was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I am very proud to be the high voter on Blackwell. Absolutlely loved everything he did. And me ranking Blackwell so high probably vaulted him over HHH, so I am giving myself a Barry Horrowitz pat on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I guess it's a little late to complain about this, but it seems odd to me to have close to 2 years of research and discussion, then allow non-members to waltz in with their lists last minute. I wonder how much that influenced the results? A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_Fair Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 . I hope others can appreciate that the bitching and complaining in this thread is a fun part of the process for many of us, while also understanding that the collective results are naturally going to lead to these sort of responses. Honestly I really don't like the tone this thread has taken in the last few days. It devolved from discussing peoples placement, who will end up where, who got under/overvalued, giving people ideas on what to watch next and poking fun at some of the oddball choices to senseless bitching about Triple H, because we don't have enough of that on the internet, and almost gleeful malicousness about certain people dropping off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 One thing I want to note that may not be clear to some people. While I find the final results interesting, the key thing for me with this project was that I would be happy with my ballot when all was said and done. Like everyone else I'll complain about the final results, but egotistical or not, the top 100 GWE to me is the ballot I submitted. As such I'm much more annoyed by minor things on my ballot I'd like to change than where HHH ended up, or the fact that lucha is getting hosed. Absolutely. As absurd as the collective ballot may be, my list is the only one I'll look at more than a second as representative, and I already can't certain parts of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Ah I woke up to Blackwell and Morgan gone. What a hell of a run for Blackwell, a guy I don't even think I had heard of more than once or twice before the AWA 80s set and that's been overlooked by certain circles for decades before that. CFCW is a champion for helping him get so far. I've got a feeling many of the next 15 names or so will be brutal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I guess it's a little late to complain about this, but it seems odd to me to have close to 2 years of research and discussion, then allow non-members to waltz in with their lists last minute. I wonder how much that influenced the results? A lot. Don't like this. You had to go to the board to know how to vote. You had to listen to podcasts or go to the board to know about the project. You had to spend time putting together a list of 100 great wrestlers. I don't think any of this leads to someone waltzing in and going 1) HBK 2) Angle 3)... hmm.. Rock and so on. If you found out about this project and went through the voting process (let's face it, it's not a few minutes job to fill out that form) then your vote is worthwhile. Just because people have gaps you don't have, doesn't mean they have sunk this project or anything. This list will probably reflect hardcore fandom really well and if only 4-10 luchadores make the top 100, that is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I guess it's a little late to complain about this, but it seems odd to me to have close to 2 years of research and discussion, then allow non-members to waltz in with their lists last minute. I wonder how much that influenced the results? A lot. Don't like this. You had to go to the board to know how to vote. You had to listen to podcasts or go to the board to know about the project. You had to spend time putting together a list of 100 great wrestlers. I don't think any of this leads to someone waltzing in and going 1) HBK 2) Angle 3)... hmm.. Rock and so on. If you found out about this project and went through the voting process (let's face it, it's not a few minutes job to fill out that form) then your vote is worthwhile. Just because people have gaps you don't have, doesn't mean they have sunk this project or anything. This list will probably reflect hardcore fandom really well and if only 4-10 luchadores make the top 100, that is fine. You could be 100% right. Or wrong. Any opinions on it are valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eegah Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Damn, Blackwell almost made the 100. I didnt vote for Pirata but he is awesome. I did vote for KENTA based on too many good matches but a sterile pick for me as Im not the biggest fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 One of those guys who talks about PWO a lot on Twitter but who doesn't post here said this: Why do y'all want your ballots to have the most guys listed? To prove you are the woolliest of the sheep?#pwogwe Just wondering how many people here feel that and how others might respond to that criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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