Grimmas Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 They started with WWN Live which for 20 a month (or 12.75 a month if you buy a whole year at once) is better than buying individual EVOLVE shows. Of course you get SHINE and WWN Super Shows plus archives. I was debating on getting this, but today they added BEYOND and PWX! So I'm all in. Currently watching SHINE and the stream has been away better than EVOLVE's past ones. The first promo was buffering and the 3rd match buffered through, but everything else has been perfect. Plus I can watch on Roku, which is great. You can call me FloSteven, I'm in. I got the year deal, I do hope they add CMLL as rumoured or even ROH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Beyond has said on twitter that right now they are only scheduled to do 1 event with FloSlam as Beyond already has their own $10 a month service. I suppose it's a test to see if it's easier to let FloSlam do the logistics of a live event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 If this ends up having any legs, I can see it being a boon to indy groups that may not be as equipped to do the heavy lifting to stream themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 There is just nowhere near enough content available on this to justify the price tag for me. Seems to be zero clear direction on where it's headed, either, which is why (almost certainly untrue) stuff like ROH being involved still gets mentioned. There are already fully formed services like High Spots already available, that work perfectly (and on Roku) - and they have PWX already. I definitely can see the value if you buy all the EVOLVE shows already but I don't care about live events, I want a massive VOD library. I'll definitely be in wait and see mode on this service for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah the selection is pretty terrible. Just a few random EVOLVE, Shine, and DG USA shows with no planning or theme beyond "People on WWE/TNA/LU are on this and we can put them on the thumbnail". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I don't think it's bad if you're a WWN fan already, but they should have made a greater effort to have a robust archive coming out of the gate. I'm on board but somewhat reluctantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah the selection is pretty terrible. Just a few random EVOLVE, Shine, and DG USA shows with no planning or theme beyond "People on WWE/TNA/LU are on this and we can put them on the thumbnail". They said the entire Evolve/DG library will be up by January 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah the selection is pretty terrible. Just a few random EVOLVE, Shine, and DG USA shows with no planning or theme beyond "People on WWE/TNA/LU are on this and we can put them on the thumbnail". They said the entire Evolve/DG library will be up by January 2017. Evolve is the saddest product. I've never seen a company where the fans and wrestlers seem to resent being at each show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah the selection is pretty terrible. Just a few random EVOLVE, Shine, and DG USA shows with no planning or theme beyond "People on WWE/TNA/LU are on this and we can put them on the thumbnail". They said the entire Evolve/DG library will be up by January 2017. Evolve is the saddest product. I've never seen a company where the fans and wrestlers seem to resent being at each show. It certainly has produced some of the best wrestler in the world the last year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I promise not to let the resentment overtake me when I'm watching Hero vs. Riddle live next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah the selection is pretty terrible. Just a few random EVOLVE, Shine, and DG USA shows with no planning or theme beyond "People on WWE/TNA/LU are on this and we can put them on the thumbnail". They said the entire Evolve/DG library will be up by January 2017. Evolve is the saddest product. I've never seen a company where the fans and wrestlers seem to resent being at each show. This comment makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 It's just a bizarrely flat product. Even flatter than current TV ROH. The crowd never seems like it actually wants to be at the shows, very little reaction to anything going on, the wrestlers seem to be going through the motions because they have nothing to play off of, and in general the shows have a weird funeral like feel to them. Evolve is a weird ass product to me. With all the great talent they have, it's not a great show by any stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Weird. The Wrestlemania weekend shows I went to last year were among the hottest crowds I've ever been a part of. The atmosphere during Thatcher/Hero was amazing, felt like a star had been born in Thatcher. Definitely felt like a crowd of people seriously loving a wrestling show. Nothing you describe sounds like any Evolve shows I've ever watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm talking about matches from the past couple of months. From the CWC qualifying shows on. What I've seen has been a dingy looking product with uninterested fans and uninterested wrestlers. 70 in particular was just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Back to FloSlam - good to hear the live stream was a marked improvement over WWN. I think they definitely did right with the yearly commitment being almost 40% in savings. That's a strong way to lock people in while they add content and figure things out. I also agree their launch seemed premature - no lead editor hired, seemingly one guy running the wrestling side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm talking about matches from the past couple of months. From the CWC qualifying shows on. What I've seen has been a dingy looking product with uninterested fans and uninterested wrestlers. 70 in particular was just awful. Okay, I will keep this in mind when I get there. It sounded like you were paintbrushing the entire history of the fed with this criticism; did not get the impression you were just talking about the last couple months. I've not caught up to show 70 yet (still around the late 50s/early 60s) but I'll look for this when I eventually watch those shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I agree the crowds are uneven, especially in Florida. I don't agree that translates to listless efforts by the wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willninho Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I think every nonWM/NYC crowd are really really dead and some of the recent losses have killed the card depth but if the Floslam money is good as people are saying they can bring interesting guys in plus WWE guys whatever their relationship is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 This is vaguely unrelated but I was flabbergasted how terrible the crowd for that House of Glory match between Kamaitachi and Dickerson posted on youtube was. It's the worst crowd I've seen in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 The two EVOLVE shows from Baltimore I have been to recently all had fine crowds. Less gross then most Northeast indy crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 At least in Orlando, the Florida Evolve crowds would be better if they stayed in one place and advertised more. Hopefully, the FloSlam money will improve this. I might get Floslam next year but Powerbomb.tv sounds more interesting than this at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'd really like to be on board, but Evolve is not a must-watch promotion for me at this point but rather something wholly dependent on the card. The other promotions aren't something I'd pay for at this point. PS4 app would help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 At least in Orlando, the Florida Evolve crowds would be better if they stayed in one place and advertised more. Hopefully, the FloSlam money will improve this. I might get Floslam next year but Powerbomb.tv sounds more interesting than this at the moment. I don't really follow indy wrestling at all but if I were to pick between the two currently it would probably be Powerbomb.tv with them having deals with a few lucha indy groups and Black Terry Jr. to show some of the stuff he shoots. Plus they might not have the financial backing of FloSlam but they seem to be making sure they have all their stuff together before launching which FloSlam definitely did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I found the timing kind of funny, but Gabe putting the most recent Hero/Riddle match up for free - while FloSlam had just uploaded and promoted having that match/show - made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Ok, the Powerslam.tv thing has my attention with BT, Jr. but I can't access the site at work to check it out. What's the pricepoint, roll-out date, other stuff involved, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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