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[Resident Evil]

Has the 1992 expose Ring of Vice done the rounds on youtube before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8aAHdRM90E...feature=related

I like the reporter saying that WWE pulled in $1.7 billion in merchandising in 1990 and having more revenue than the NFL. And that was a down year for them!

 

Along with a part time referee Rita Marie earning $500,000!

 

It wasn't said she was making 500K. She said she was told that it would happen.

[khawk20]

 

Thanks muchly.

[CodySave]

I know at one point there was a forum set up where Clawmaster and some other people were posting old results... anyone know where that is, or where they might be currently doing that kind of thing?

 

http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/view...;jump_to=181135

 

Thanks for posting this link - I've recently been looking off-and-on for wrestling results from Des Moines and other towns in Iowa in the past decades. Family members will always tell me about going to the wrestling events in Des Moines in the 60s and 70s, but were little on details, aside from a few of the names and knowing it was either an AWA or NWA card.

 

Great to see all these AWA results because AWA All-Star Wrestling was one of the big wrestling TV shows in this area. I often wonder how many other shows (besides the obvious WWE syndicated shows) aired in our area in the 70s and 80s because the first name everyone over 40 drops when wrestling comes up is "Handsome" Harley Race (who I know also spent some time wrestling in the AWA, but obviously wrestled quite a bit out of St. Louis.)

[Hollinger.]

We also got Central States tv up here, which is how most of them know Harley from his NWA title runs.

[CodySave]

We also got Central States tv up here, which is how most of them know Harley from his NWA title runs.

Thanks man. I thought we had Central States TV up here, but wasn't completely sure. But that makes total sense because I believe they had a Central States TV title tournament in Des Moines around 1988?

[khawk20]

...so, on the Observer site, there is a link to the preview clip of the Abby shoot interview.

 

One of the features they advertise is an "Original audio soundtrack".

 

It's loud enough in the preview clip that you can't really hear anything Abby is saying. That ain't gonna stimulate sales, at all.

 

One can only hope it's a marketing ploy to get people to want to buy the shoot to ehar what he actualy has to say. I have my doubts, though. If the audio is legit like that throughout the entire shoot, it's a FAIL already!

[sek69]

CM Punk wearing a mask to hide his baldness is funny enough, even more so that his beard sticking out makes him look like Delirious.

[Loss]

This Scott Keith quote from his blog is kind of a WTF:

 

We’ve actually discussed this on the blog before, and consensus seems to be that WWF just didn’t have the faith in Hall to carry the company on top, preferring to book him in house show main events as IC champion instead. Which is weird, because if they someone come along today who could work like Hall and drew that kind of reaction, he’d be World champion for the rest of his life.

[goc]

This Scott Keith quote from his blog is kind of a WTF:

 

We’ve actually discussed this on the blog before, and consensus seems to be that WWF just didn’t have the faith in Hall to carry the company on top, preferring to book him in house show main events as IC champion instead. Which is weird, because if they someone come along today who could work like Hall and drew that kind of reaction, he’d be World champion for the rest of his life.

Hall might actually do better in today's WWE. If they had a guy who was at his level holding the IC title today, they would definitely try to push him up the card. Razor Ramon was just as over as HBK or Diesel, and was at least as good or better than Diesel was in the ring. They also don't rely as heavily on one top guy as they did back in that time period. So I can see this one, but that's just because of how different the mid 90s are to today. The IC title meant a lot more then than it does now. It was also a much bigger deal to be the World Champ, it meant you were the top guy. It doesn't mean that now. No one can try and argue that Jack Swagger is the top guy on Smackdown, but he is the World Champ.

[Loss]

He might have done somewhat better, but I tend to think his drug and alcohol problems would have made this a non-issue, especially in the current WWE environment. I also don't get where this idea of Scott Hall being really good ever came from. He was almost always pretty average. He was lucky enough to be carried to a great match by Shawn Michaels that made his career, and he was in wrestling getting opportunities for nearly 10 years before he finally found something that worked. And it did work, no doubt, but if you look at it, he had a two-year period where he was one of the three or four most over babyfaces on the roster. Nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing too remarkable. The Razor Ramon gimmick was a winner and he did become a star in the WWF, but I don't really look at his popularity in 1994-1995 and think missed opportunity.

[goc]

He might have done somewhat better, but I tend to think his drug and alcohol problems would have made this a non-issue, especially in the current WWE environment. I also don't get where this idea of Scott Hall being really good ever came from. He was almost always pretty average. He was lucky enough to be carried to a great match by Shawn Michaels that made his career, and he was in wrestling getting opportunities for nearly 10 years before he finally found something that worked. And it did work, no doubt, but if you look at it, he had a two-year period where he was one of the three or four most over babyfaces on the roster. Nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing too remarkable. The Razor Ramon gimmick was a winner and he did become a star in the WWF, but I don't really look at his popularity in 1994-1995 and think missed opportunity.

Oh well I never meant to say it was a missed opportunity. Only that I thought he would get a World Title reign which for most people on the internet is the holy grail of wrestling achievements. So for SKeith to say he would have been better off because he would have got a run with Da Belt is understandable. But he still wouldn't have been THE top babyface. He'd have been in the same position as he was in 94-95 as number 3 of 4 babyface.

[BruiserBrody]

http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;js...=2&offset=1

 

 

I didn't realize the Nailz/Vince blow up took place in Green Bay until I read the Classic Observer the other day

 

No wonder WCW had "The Prisoner" hail from Green Bay, WI at Slamboree

[jdw]

Did anyone ever do to the Russo-WCW book what that great reviewer did to the Bret Hart book?

 

John

[Bix]

Dylan's been promising it as his Cageside Seats debut for months. Ahem...

[jdw]

The Brett Hart thing was more than just a review... it was an epic on its own.

 

John

[kjh]

I've got the book, I could attempt something similar once I've found the time to read it.

[Strummer]

Debating whether Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan were good announcers never seems to end well on any internet wrestling board.

[Dylan Waco]

Family leaves town on Friday. Maybe I'll throw something up on Cageside Saturday if I feel inspired

[El-P]

Debating whether Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan were good announcers never seems to end well on any internet wrestling board.

True.

I enjoy Gorilla + Jesse because Jesse wouldn't let himself bullied by Gorilla. Gorilla & Heenan sure had fun working with each other, and it shows, but that's pretty much the only thing good about their combo. Gorilla was a bully babyface announcer. Jesse & Vince and Jesse & Schiavone were both a much better combination than anything involving Monsoon.

[Bob Morris]

Jesse and Vince did make for a good combo in their earlier years together, but over time, Vince was stumbling over his words at times to justify something when Jesse questioned it, or just didn't bother to address it. Usually this came when involving Hogan.

 

Seriously, though, in watching the first ever Royal Rumble, I was impressed with how Vince and Jesse worked together as a team in calling the action.

 

And yes, Tony and Jesse worked well together. Tony and Bobby, on the other hand, was a bad combination as Bobby wanted to do his usual schitck and Tony had no idea how to work with it.

[evilclown]

The Brett Hart thing was more than just a review... it was an epic on its own.

 

John

That was written by the co-author of my new MMA Encyclopedia. Tremendous.

[jdw]

Is the encyclopedia out yet, Jon?

 

John

[El-P]

And yes, Tony and Jesse worked well together. Tony and Bobby, on the other hand, was a bad combination as Bobby wanted to do his usual schitck and Tony had no idea how to work with it.

Agreed. Tony and Bobby wasn't working very good from the get go, and with the passing years it just became plain bad as neither gave a shit anymore. But I would take prime Tony over a lot of people, and any announcer active today. He's become very underrated because people only remember about his last years during the Nitro era, which were actively bad.

Since I'm watching ton of ECW now, it's interesting to see how Joey Styles evolved. He could be very good at points calling the action alone, explaining angle, playing the straight man reacting to goofballs like Richards and being scared shitless of Taz, but at some point he could also be quite poor, mainly because of overreactions (his forced laugh was terrible). He's certainly an interesting case.

[evilclown]

Is the encyclopedia out yet, Jon?

 

John

November. Trying to buy photos now and Zuffa making it very hard. But I'm really happy with this one. And, looking to sign a contract for two more. What a world.

[rovert]

Dont be Matt Hardy:

 

Matt Hardy was at it again on Twitter last night/this morning. Some of his more entertaining statements:

 

TURN ON SMACKDOWN NOW!! DON'T MISS IT.. Matthew Moore Hardy is about to be reborn in the WWE.

 

In response to someone asking if he was trying to get fired to go to TNA: I've been underutilized.. I don't "need" the WWE, I have nothing to lose

 

In response to someone saying he had been ignored for too long: But I WILL NOT be ignored anymore-bet on it!

 

In response to someone asking if he prefers fans that "play along": Deal is-there's more reality than not on the stuff I'm saying & doing now on TV. Something has to change-either the WWE or me.

 

In response to a tweet saying "STFU you suck and your only claim to fame is being carried through the tag division by your junkie brother": U would love to have my life-but u never will. U obviously care enough to read all my tweets but I'll stop that-BLOCKED! HAHA!

 

In response to a suggestion that WWE using Drew McIntyre to get rid of him: Maybe so-but I've got a Twist Of Fate for VKM!

 

And to finish: It's all of your support that keeps me ticking.. Thanks much. SD is in St. Louis tomorrow-let's see what plane tickets are going 4 tonight.