WingedEagle Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 This match is awesome and would've been incredible before a crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I'm surprised people haven't gotten into Charlotte/Rhea because of talking or no crowd. I thought it was really strong and much tighter than so many Charlotte matches over the past year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 That match would've ruled with a live crowd. In this setting I couldn't help but feel it was too long. It was still damn good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, WingedEagle said: This match is awesome and would've been incredible before a crowd. I think it was incredible without a crowd. Really glad you could hear the wrestlers and their was minimal playing to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 A solidly done, meat and potatoes Flair match. Unfortunately, those thrive on crowd reaction. Still very good work, the 3rd-best match of the 2 nights so far IMO. (This was about 3.75*, last night was Boneyard 4.5, Bryan/Zayn 3.75, and Becky/Shayna 3, for reference. With a crowd, this is 4+.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 As said, the actual work was great there but there was FAR too much overwrought screaming, terrible attempts at vocal storytelling and dialogue exchanges. Charlotte randomly saying “I don’t give up!” was like something out of a 70s comic book fight scene. Putting Charlotte over should come as no real surprise but come on. She’s going to end her kayfabe career as the most dominant wrestler ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, EricR said: I'm surprised people haven't gotten into Charlotte/Rhea because of talking or no crowd. I thought it was really strong and much tighter than so many Charlotte matches over the past year. People? It's only me in this thread saying that, lol. But the result was a foregone conclusion IMO, which also hurt the match. There was zero doubt in my mind that Rhea was losing and Charlotte was winning. Charlotte winning at Mania is the default setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB8 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Probably a few minutes too long, but I liked how they were working stiff as a bastard, that chop block was killer and overall I liked that match a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Again Charlotte is what people think that Roman Reigns is. It was a great match and in my opinion much better than Becky vs Shayna but yeah the outcome was really never in doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 That was a great opener. Charlotte was in full bitch mode and Ripley sold the leg well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Charlotte says that kind of stupid shit in every match though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I don't see the issue with wrestlers trash talking more to make up for the lack of a crowd. I thought it added to the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I'M ON TWO HOURS SLEEP YOU CAN'T DO ME LIKE THAT THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING. THAT FUCKING RULED. That was BIG MEATY WOMEN SLAPPING MEAT areas, although I feel like I'm the only person allowed to use that phrase and I will never say it ever again I promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, cactus said: I don't see the issue with wrestlers trash talking more to make up for the lack of a crowd. I thought it added to the match. It depends how cringe-inducing it is. Trash talk that you can't really make out is always good, but bad dialog is just bad dialog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Really wish they had protected Rhea in a loss like they did Shayna. Very bummed about that actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.S. said: People? It's only me in this thread saying that, lol. But the result was a foregone conclusion IMO, which also hurt the match. There was zero doubt in my mind that Rhea was losing and Charlotte was winning. Charlotte winning at Mania is the default setting. I skimmed to catch up to where I was at and it looked like a few posts in a row gave similar opinions, that the match was hurt either due to empty arena or two much talking. I agree with you about Charlotte winning, just because Charlotte always gets to win, even when it doesn't make sense in a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Maybe it’s just an irrational pet peeve of mine but it always feels so forced and actively detracts from matches no matter who is doing it. There’s a line between trash talking heels and jawing with the crowd to monologuing as you’re exchanging right hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira maeda Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 I think Lesnar-Black will headline WrestleMania next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Unpopular opinion: Black vs. Lashley is tonight's Corbin vs. Elias. I will never care about this match or either of the wrestlers in it, no matter how many "hoss stud brawls" Lashley had in TNA or whatever the hell Tommy End did on the indies. I. DO. NOT. CARE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Lashley must not have a leg machine in his home work out gym as it is llong tights Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Charlotte's 3-2 at Mania, she doesn't always win. That was the only match I was really looking forward to tonight and thought it was the best match of the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Ok, I'm just going to watch from here on in, with times apart for parenting. Because I have to do that. This one needs some stakes. Winner gets an IC title shot or something. The look on Black's face as he overshot the moonsault was pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Idle thought from the previous match: everyone should have a second during these empty arena shows, just for the noise. They all have to carry white towels. The involuntary losses could build feuds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, Matt D said: This one needs some stakes. That's my main problem with it, other than not personally caring about either of these guys. It's such an inconsequential throwaway match. It doesn't matter, there's no point to it, and the outcome won't affect either man or the WWE as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alucard said: Charlotte's 3-2 at Mania, she doesn't always win. That was the only match I was really looking forward to tonight and thought it was the best match of the weekend. That's like using HHH's Mania record to say he didn't always win/was booked too strong for too long. It is funny that Charlotte's three wins were the three main women's titles though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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