Reel Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, sek69 said: Funny how after that match with Brock where Lashley kept bumping on his shoulder for the Germans, Dave mentioned how risky that was since dudes that spend as much time lifting for as long as he has tend to have shoulder injuries. Watching it back, it seems like he started bumping mainly on the one shoulder at one point, I'd assume because the other one was injured. 11 minutes ago, Flyin' Brian said: This company. Brock gets put in the match at Day 1, he wins. He enters the Royal Rumble, he wins. He enters the Elimination Chamber, he wins. They probably put him over Roman at Wrestlemania. It's almost like they're building to the main event of the biggest show of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Apparently Lashley was going to face Rollins at Mania. So Seth has had two Mania matches changed/dropped so far (Shane and Lashley) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Strummer said: Apparently Lashley was going to face Rollins at Mania. So Seth has had two Mania matches changed/dropped so far (Shane and Lashley) There's a very, very low-level rumour that WWE wants Shawn Michaels to wrestle Rollins. So there might be a triple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Lashley being legit hurt might actually work out. He didn't get beat for the belt by Brock, so there's more story to be told in the future between the two of them. Bobby cheated to beat Brock for the belt, Brock won the belt back but didn't beat Bobby, and now it's gonna be awhile until they revisit this and there's a lot to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Having one of your top babyfaces try to behead someone (in Saudi Arabia, no less) is certainly a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 MAJOR FACEPALM And they seem proud of the idea too, considering this is the official Twitter account. This company, for fuck's sake. Zero conscience whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 14 hours ago, rovert said: There's a very, very low-level rumour that WWE wants Shawn Michaels to wrestle Rollins. So there might be a triple. I don't know why but I got a feeling it's gonna end up being Cody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 I'm wondering what is gained from whoever wins Brock vs Roman? Both are long established completely dominant forces who have run through the entire roster twice over, including each other, with heel and face role being swapped as well Neither can possibly be elevated any higher by defeating the other Both will never be in anything but the title scene, so either dropping the title to the other means nothing because they'll just win the title back Brock being the one to end Roman's record breaking streak would be lol as hell Roman beating Brock again really does nothing for him at this stage either. He already has the most dominant reign in 35 years, he's already beaten Brock in this reign, he's completely dominated the entire roster top to bottom, including returning legends. I would argue that anyone beating Brock doesn't mean anything because the next time Brock pops up, he wins the title every time anyway. They've really gone out of their way to make everyone look completely unimportant to make Brock and Roman look as dominant as possible, yet there's no outcome where either guy actually gets anything out of a win or a loss. It does not appear there is anyone on the backburner to be elevated to take the title from either guy, if the plans are to do Rock vs Roman next year....well then what there, too? Have 50 year old Rock be the one to end Roman's 2 year title reign? Have Roman smash another legend and continue the reign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 All completely valid questions & to me, a big part of the reason why Wrestlemania is just not appealing at all this year. WWE need to build new stars & then actually elevate them & use them. Instead, when WWE gets new names, they seem to have them trade a lot of wins/losses in the mid-card, or just have them start doing goofy comedy. Hell, half the time they push a new babyface to the main event and then START the comedy there. It's really weird. Bron should be oh the main roster & called Steiner already, in example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Part of the problem is also that when WWE tries to build new stars, the complaints of "superpush" happen immediately. I'm already seeing the complaints about Bianca winning the Women's Chamber. In that situation, how can they create new stars if the fanbase never is happy about any they're trying to build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Coffey said: WWE need to build new stars & then actually elevate them & use them. They won't until they are absolutely forced to. As long as they can have Brock, can bring back Goldy, legit fantasize about having that Rock match at Mania and as long as Roman is not going to Hollywood, they just won't. One reason is that they SUCK at booking, of course. They other is that they have pre-existent and dated idea of what a star should be. They have learned nothing from the Bryan Danielson years, nothing. The concept of not wanting anyone with actual wrestling experience because they want to brainwash model their own workers from the very start won't make things better. No one will learn how to get over in a company that doesn't let anyone actually get over unless it's a pre-planned decision. Meltz mentioned the Brock interview in which he criticizes the younger guys who "don't know how to make money and get over", which is ridiculous coming from someone who was destined to be pushed as a big star even before day one (much like Orton or Roman BTW). No one will ever get over organically in this company anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 8 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Having one of your top babyfaces try to behead someone (in Saudi Arabia, no less) is certainly a choice. Jesus, that one would even be stupid if it didn't happen is Saudi Arabia (remember the Berzerker trying to stab the Undertaker?). That's on a level with Randy Orton trying to break Edge's neck with a lat pulldown machine (that's how Wikipedia calls it, I don't know if that is the proper term) at Wrestlemania 36, a week or two after the Chris Benoit Dark Side of the Ring episode aired (the match was shot a day or two after the episode aired). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 I would say a bigger problem than people being unable to get over organically is that people will get over exactly how WWE intends, and then they're inexplicably kneecapped and never recover. It's really not that WWE can't create new stars or that talent can't get over, it's that WWE intentionally sabotages their own talent. And often then punishes them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, strobogo said: I would say a bigger problem than people being unable to get over organically is that people will get over exactly how WWE intends, and then they're inexplicably kneecapped and never recover. It's really not that WWE can't create new stars or that talent can't get over, it's that WWE intentionally sabotages their own talent. And often then punishes them for it. Yeah WWE is actually really good at pushing new stars.....for like two or three weeks. Then they decide they have to job them out because reasons. Look at Damian Priest, he was on a roll and got the rub from teaming with Bad Bunny, and then once they made him US champion he jobbed like four weeks in a row. Between having a love affair with 50-50 booking and their belief that constantly jobbing champions is somehow a good way to build feuds it's no reason they can't make any stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 9:22 PM, Reel said: Watching it back, it seems like he started bumping mainly on the one shoulder at one point, I'd assume because the other one was injured. It's almost like they're building to the main event of the biggest show of the year. How many times has that been the main event of the biggest show of the year? How many times can they build to Roman vs Brock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 You're not wrong, but what else can they do? It's obviously their fault for not building anyone else up, but its still a fact that there's literally nothing else they could have be the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Why do I get the feeling Rock costs Reigns his, uh, reign and this sets up (a likely not happening) main event next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Rock didn't show up to an event dedicated to him. He's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Yeah between movies, his tequila, TV shows, being at the Super Bowl....he really doesn't have the time to do piddly rasslin' shit anymore no matter how badly Vince wants it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Even if he wanted to work another match, it's doubtful the movie studios and insurance companies would let him. It cost them millions when the injury he sustained during the second Cena match caused filming of the Hercules movie to be delayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 It also comes off like Vince wants the Rock, but also wants the homie discount on what that would cost. You'd think if injury was a fear he could always come out and just Rock Bottom someone and leave, but he hasn't even made an appearance in a long time and famously didn't even participate in the episode of TV dedicated to him (to the point he even no sold it on social media). We all know at the end of the day Rock is all about business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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