Embrodak Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 Saraya is thoroughly derailed at this point, I don’t think that’s a future happening. She needed approximately the same story as Punk, “Can I still hang?”, not “This division sucks and I’m here to dominate it”. Even if the latter is true, AEW has extremely defensive fans who do not like stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Jmare007 said: And even after Blood and Guts they had that main event were he lost the barb wire match to Jericho and had that horrible, rushed, WWE-like post match beating "to keep Eddie over" that failed miserably. A shame, that was actually Eddie's last match on Dynamite too, 3 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Literally, every Jericho feud and angle has gone on way too long in AEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Embrodak said: Saraya is thoroughly derailed at this point, I don’t think that’s a future happening. She needed approximately the same story as Punk, “Can I still hang?”, not “This division sucks and I’m here to dominate it”. Even if the latter is true, AEW has extremely defensive fans who do not like stuff like that. And like, it's Saraya. I know some people are really high on her, but she hasn't wrestled in like 5 fucking years. Portraying her as anything more than someone who's rusty and has something to prove is absurd. I've said it before but it begs repeating: women's wrestling landscape moved on and improved without her. To have her come out and say that she built this scene borders on sneaking in a heel turn (or just having her be a heel from the start). You can buy someone like Becky Lynch or even Nikkisawa trying to top dog others. Not her. You have people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: To have her come out and say that she built this scene borders on sneaking in a heel turn (or just having her be a heel from the start). You can buy someone like Becky Lynch or even Nikkisawa trying to top dog others. Not her. You have people While I agree everything she said was completely misguided and 100% the wrong approach to take, Paige vs. Emma at the first WWE Network NXT show was the true beginning of the WWE Women's Revolution. That's a fact. And Paige was on Total Divas for years and there was a major Hollywood movie made about her life, so don't discount her contributions just because they haven't been recent and have been overshadowed by drama and controversy outside the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Not discounting anything. I said the wrestling landscape, specially the women's wrestling landscape, has moved on and improved without her. She has undeniable importance and her 1st half of the 2010s is good, her debut on the main roster is still a great moment in history. However, from 2015 onward she's had two big injuries which cost her half a decade of in-ring action. She retired at age 25!! She's just not the person you can have come out and say "I'm the best you guys fucking suck take a look and take notes motherfuckers", and that's no fault of her own. Others have done more to build things when she couldn't because she literally wasn't able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I never even found Saraya to be all that good in the ring, tbh. I remember thinking she wasn't as good as AJ Lee & I really liked the AJ Lee/Kaitlyn feud. I still hope TAFKA Paige has a good showing because I think a lot of fans are going to misremember her ability, not to mention the ring rust & it's going to have that hard-to-watch, impending doom feeling like when Bryan Danielson returned to the ring due to the health issues. I also don't think Britt is very good at all, so not exactly the safest person for her return match to be against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I will fully admit that 2022 AEW will work better in ten years as a comp than it has for us living through it, but it'll be a hell of a comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 100% agree with Matt D. I'm a bit higher on it than most folks seem to be. But there are a lot of flaws and the week to week is inconsistent at best. The good to great match list on the other hand is out of this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 House of Black Lore just dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 Tony announced JUN AKIYAMA is coming in next week w/ Konosuke Takeshita vs. Eddie Kingston & Ortiz on Rampage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 12:58 AM, Alucard said: Tony announced JUN AKIYAMA is coming in next week w/ Konosuke Takeshita vs. Eddie Kingston & Ortiz on Rampage! Holy shit... that is awesome. I really hope they use this to book an Akiyama v Kingston singles match at the PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 "Yeah but it will not do anything for the ratings, who cares ?" Well, Eddie Kingston sure cares. Awesome for him, and really cool from Akiyama too. Fuck the ratings. More of this, as long as we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Cap said: Holy shit... that is awesome. I really hope they use this to book an Akiyama v Kingston singles match at the PPV. New tradition in which Eddie wrestles Japanese legends on PPV pre-shows would work fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 6 hours ago, El-P said: "Yeah but it will not do anything for the ratings, who cares ?" Well, Eddie Kingston sure cares. Awesome for him, and really cool from Akiyama too. Fuck the ratings. More of this, as long as we can. ^^^^This^^^^^^ I couldn't care less about the ratings. I want wrestling companies to do well, but they don't interest me as talking point. I'm a wrestling fan, not a wrestling business fan. 2 hours ago, Migs said: New tradition in which Eddie wrestles Japanese legends on PPV pre-shows would work fine for me. 100%. I want Kingston to get a push and at least a short title run. I genuinely think that could make for some awesome wrestling and I KNOW I'd mark out for it. But I'd also be completely content watching him have bangers with anyone and everyone. Just put him on my TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 The best part is this match is happening because Akiyama heard Eddie is a big KIng's Road fan and wanted to have a match with him and he was all "alright, that sounds cool, lemme hop on a plane to America". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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