Dave Meltzer stuff

[Kronos]

Wouldn't Bo be more along the lines of Agassi? He didn't reach the heights in his sport that AA did. But in terms of media darlings and the "IT" athlete, they could be similar.

[goodhelmet]

At least 150 students every year at my high school know who the Beatles are (or are at least exposed to them). I am pleasantly surprised to find plenty of kids who already know who they are before my Beatles Celebration Week. Usually, the hip hop / rap kids have no clue and don't care but the rock kids, burnouts, and nerds have at least an awareness of who they were.

[Johnny Sorrow]

I just heard Dave ask Alverez, when talking about Del Rio's promo at the PPV.... "Are there lots of coffee shops in Seattle?"

[rovert]

http://europeansportsnews.paddypower.com/i...lub+in+San+Jose

 

 

Should I explain this as a European?

[jdw]

I just heard Dave ask Alverez, when talking about Del Rio's promo at the PPV.... "Are there lots of coffee shops in Seattle?"

I assume Dave was joking.

 

 

John

[sek69]

I just heard Dave ask Alverez, when talking about Del Rio's promo at the PPV.... "Are there lots of coffee shops in Seattle?"

I assume Dave was joking.

 

 

John

 

 

Considering his follow up was "is the weather bad?" I would say he wasn't.

[Bix]

Yes rovert, please explain that thing.

[jdw]

I love Ray Parlour popping up in the piece. Plus... Charlie Webster is hot.

 

John

[jdw]

I just heard Dave ask Alverez, when talking about Del Rio's promo at the PPV.... "Are there lots of coffee shops in Seattle?"

I assume Dave was joking.

 

 

John

 

 

Considering his follow up was "is the weather bad?" I would say he wasn't.

 

That would tend to indicate that he was joking. No way that he's been a friend of Alverez for more than a a decade and fails to know the weather sucks.

 

John

[KrisZ]

Oh man Dave went on a small rant about wrestling matches aging over time and how a great match is great no matter what on the show last night around the 40:00 mark. The show was free so it's a must listen for you guys.

[rovert]

Yes rovert, please explain that thing.

A legendary soccer player Ryan Giggs took out a Super Injunction in the UK blocking the media from reporting about the relationship he had with Imogen Thomas, a topless model. The whole thing turned into a farce of epic proportions.

 

The latest:

 

Liberal Democrat MP John Hemming has publicly named the footballer who has taken out an injunction as Ryan Giggs.

 

Speaking in the House of Commons this afternoon, the freedom of speech campaigner said the name of the Manchester United midfielder, who is alleged to have had a six-month affair with ex-Big Brother contestant Imogen Thomas.

 

Hemming said: "With about 75,000 people having named Ryan Giggs on Twitter it's obviously impractical to imprison them all."

 

The Speaker stopped Hemming from speaking and rebuked him for the statement.

 

This morning, the High Court upheld the injunction granted to the Premier League star.

 

Lawyers for the footballer launched legal action against Twitter last week, seeking details of "persons unknown" who have published his name on the social networking website.

 

Appearing on ITV's Daybreak earlier today, Prime Minister David Cameron said that privacy rulings against newspapers are "unsustainable" when the information can easily be found on the internet.

The general public think Giggs is a dumbfuck now for going this route just because he fancied an affair.

 

Using "Dave Meltzer" is just weird.

 

 

The media has had great fun with it. Outting Ryan Giggs without naming him:

 

 

A super injuction is a normal injunction plus you cant report that an injunction exists.

[sek69]

I just heard Dave ask Alverez, when talking about Del Rio's promo at the PPV.... "Are there lots of coffee shops in Seattle?"

I assume Dave was joking.

 

 

John

 

 

Considering his follow up was "is the weather bad?" I would say he wasn't.

 

That would tend to indicate that he was joking. No way that he's been a friend of Alverez for more than a a decade and fails to know the weather sucks.

 

John

 

 

If he was joking, it was the most deadpan joke ever. Even Bryan kind of stopped for a beat as if to say "wait, is he being serious?" before explaining that yes, there are a lot of coffee shops in Seattle and the weather is normally cool and rainy.

[jdw]

For all our criticism of Dave, this is an insane issue.

 

For 20 years, in a "normal" issue, a WWF/WCW PPV would be a lead article. It's not in this one.

 

For most of the past decade, a story as newsworthy and especially strange & twisty as the Chael Sonnen suspension would be the lead article.

 

In almost any issue, something as "big" as one of the top second tier promotions having a major operational change would be the lead. We can argue the significance of ROH (count me in the camp that think they don't have much of a pot to piss in). But this is a bit like something of this nature of Smokey or ECW having a Big Change, which if there wasn't something bigger in the WWF or WCW, would be a lead.

 

That's three Lead-worthy stories, all of which Dave covered at the length that he would normally cover something like that.

 

But before we even get to those, there's a lengthy bio of Savage, which obviously is a lead over just about anything.

 

Pretty damn newsworthy week, and Dave didn't seem to be slacking on covering any of it. Good job.

 

John

[Johnny Sorrow]

The current classic Observer 3/21/94 is really awesome. It covers the Tonya Harding becoming a wrestler in Japan story, the buildup to Mania ten that he felt was going to be an awful show, lots of USWA and Smokey Mountain news, the AAA show on 3/12 at the Los Angeles Sports Arena, and a great Reader's page with SMW rep K.C. O'Connor going off on Bob Barnett.

 

edit:

 

In regard to Bob Barnett's letter in the 2/28 Observer concerning Sunday Bloody Sunday, I felt some things needed to be clarified. His comment about too many screw jobs isn't correct since there were no matches where the referee's original decision was reversed in favor of the heel which is technically the definition of a screw job. No decisions were reversed in favor of the faces either. Concerning the crowd hanging around the babyface curtain, this has nothing to do with fans expecting a run-in. This happens at all the Knoxville shows because fans want to get a peek at the faces when they stick their heads out of the dressing room and because there were no more chairs on the floor due to the large crowd.

 

Barnett showed he hasn't been paying attention to the storylines with his remark about Mike Furnas not being ready to do jobs yet. That's the whole idea and even the biggest marks understand the angle. Mike is a former University of Tennessee football player who has never had a match. The big heel team, The Heavenly Bodies, were pushing him around, but then he got someone to stand by his side, his world class wrestler and athlete of a brother, Doug. It's called an angle. As for his comment that Dusty Rhodes could have booked the finishes, he's right about that. Unfortunately, he couldn't book a show with half of the appeal, which wasn't bad for a guy who is "spreading himself too thin."

 

Perhaps Barnett is crying sour grapes because he had to be escorted from behind the curtain at the show like Bob Uecker after he was caught backstage pestering the wrestlers to tell him Eddie Gilbert stories. Then again, he shouldn't be too unhappy since I've already heard from four people who have paid for a copy of a tape of the show that he taped with his video camera. I guess the SMW office can expect a royalty check in the mail.

 

K.C. O'Connor

 

Smoky Mountain Wrestling

 

Morristown, Tennessee

[Loss]

I agree that this was an insane issue. The Savage bio is one of his best.

[Johnny Sorrow]

In 1985, while working for Jerry Jarrett in Memphis, Savage got a call from Jimmy Hart telling him the WWF was interested as booker George Scott had seen a tape of Savage, and wanted to bring him in for a major run as an opponent for Hogan. Hart didn’t have Savage’s number, but called the TV studio on a Saturday morning when they were taping. Guy Coffey answered the phone, and Hart asked if he could talk with Savage. Given that there was a promotional war going on, and Coffey worked for Jerry Jarrett, Hart had to make up a story and say that he knew someone who wanted to buy $500 worth of Amway products, since Coffey knew Savage was selling Amway on the side at that time.

Randy Savage, Amway Salesman has me rolling.

 

Edit: This sounds hilarious

 

A couple of newcomers to FCW are Jonathan Good (Jon Moxley, who won’t be keeping that name given that it’s his real name), Ethan Levin (a 6-6 270 pound Israeli who is billed as a self-made millionaire diamond wholesaler) and Alexander Rusev (a 6-0, 305 pounder who is put togther like a tank, looks like one of those guys in the world’s strongest man stuff you’d see on ESPN 2).

The Jewish Wrestling Diamond Wholesaler! That's new.

 

 

"We got two honkies out there, dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants."

[Johnny Sorrow]

From the update:

 

--The Washington Nationals baseball team paid tribute to Randy Savage last night. They have mascots dressed up like famous presidents, and for the first time ever, one of the mascots, instead of being dressed like a president, was dressed up as Randy Savage.

 

 

 

--Stan Kroenke, one of Vince McMahon's imaginary rich enemies a few years ago, just purchased the U.K. soccer team Arsenal.

[rovert]

EEEEENNNNNNOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS

 

 

 

Oliver Copp's UFC press pass:

http://www.f4wonline.com/images/Pics2/copp.jpg

[KrisZ]

UFC giving those guys press passes still amuses me.

 

This UFC is going to do a pretty bad buyrate if you go by trending topics on Twitter as they've only trended a couple of times and they haven't reached above 6th worldwide all night. They usually do much better.

[Tim Evans]

Dave's fascination for Karen Jarrett is pretty funny. Like last night's Observer where he said she looks hotter with crutches. Bryan sounded freaked out.

[Victator]

As for his comment that Dusty Rhodes could have booked the finishes, he's right about that. Unfortunately, he couldn't book a show with half of the appeal, which wasn't bad for a guy who is "spreading himself too thin."

I do not know about the rest of the letter but this is indeed false. Dusty is a better booker than Cornette any day of the week.

[Sean Liska]

As for his comment that Dusty Rhodes could have booked the finishes, he's right about that. Unfortunately, he couldn't book a show with half of the appeal, which wasn't bad for a guy who is "spreading himself too thin."

I do not know about the rest of the letter but this is indeed false. Dusty is a better booker than Cornette any day of the week.

 

I'll give you late 84-July 87 Dusty. 1988 Dusty was a disaster, 1991 Dusty gave us Oz and a Dusty finish in the Tokyo Dome, and 1993 Dusty gave us Cactus Jack Lost In Cleveland. But Cornette in 1995 was burned out too.

[Victator]

93 Dusty also created the Hollywood Blonds, Vader as dominant heel champion, the Cactus Jack face turn and power bomb angle. 91 Dusty created the fucking Dangerous Alliance.

 

I'm watching 88 right now and the good far outweighs the bad. The Varsity Club, the Midnights/Fantastics feud, the initial Midnight Rider angle, Powers of Pain weight lifting challenge, Sting's feud with Flair.

[smkelly]

At least 150 students every year at my high school know who the Beatles are (or are at least exposed to them). I am pleasantly surprised to find plenty of kids who already know who they are before my Beatles Celebration Week. Usually, the hip hop / rap kids have no clue and don't care but the rock kids, burnouts, and nerds have at least an awareness of who they were.

I bet you have some awesome stories, man. How long have you been a teacher?

 

 

The current classic Observer 3/21/94 is really awesome. It covers the Tonya Harding becoming a wrestler in Japan story, the buildup to Mania ten that he felt was going to be an awful show, lots of USWA and Smokey Mountain news, the AAA show on 3/12 at the Los Angeles Sports Arena, and a great Reader's page with SMW rep K.C. O'Connor going off on Bob Barnett.

 

edit:

 

In regard to Bob Barnett's letter in the 2/28 Observer concerning Sunday Bloody Sunday, I felt some things needed to be clarified. His comment about too many screw jobs isn't correct since there were no matches where the referee's original decision was reversed in favor of the heel which is technically the definition of a screw job. No decisions were reversed in favor of the faces either. Concerning the crowd hanging around the babyface curtain, this has nothing to do with fans expecting a run-in. This happens at all the Knoxville shows because fans want to get a peek at the faces when they stick their heads out of the dressing room and because there were no more chairs on the floor due to the large crowd.

 

Barnett showed he hasn't been paying attention to the storylines with his remark about Mike Furnas not being ready to do jobs yet. That's the whole idea and even the biggest marks understand the angle. Mike is a former University of Tennessee football player who has never had a match. The big heel team, The Heavenly Bodies, were pushing him around, but then he got someone to stand by his side, his world class wrestler and athlete of a brother, Doug. It's called an angle. As for his comment that Dusty Rhodes could have booked the finishes, he's right about that. Unfortunately, he couldn't book a show with half of the appeal, which wasn't bad for a guy who is "spreading himself too thin."

 

Perhaps Barnett is crying sour grapes because he had to be escorted from behind the curtain at the show like Bob Uecker after he was caught backstage pestering the wrestlers to tell him Eddie Gilbert stories. Then again, he shouldn't be too unhappy since I've already heard from four people who have paid for a copy of a tape of the show that he taped with his video camera. I guess the SMW office can expect a royalty check in the mail.

 

K.C. O'Connor

 

Smoky Mountain Wrestling

 

Morristown, Tennessee

Thank you. That was and is awesome on so many levels. Well, only one technically. But a few if I stretched it, probably.

[smkelly]

I do not own a single WON Newsletter, nor have I ever read a full issue. I am interested in purchasing some. I have no real interest in nowadays stories, gossip, and/or rumors. I am instead interested in past issues. What are some key issues I should get?

 

I feel like I am venturing into puro again.