flyonthewall2983

Not for nothing , but American Pie was great and South Park was and still is brilliant. You're right about the late 90's vibe in pop culture. Yeah, my comment wasn't meant to lump the first two with the latter in terms of quality, it's just that more raunchy material was cool and WWE attached itself to it for the sake of piggy-backing that vibe to beat WCW in the ratings. And it worked.

It worked itself out, and he did the smart thing by playing it up from the get-go. If he never comes back, the blue trunks and the wave goodbye was a perfect send-off.

The concept exists best as a "what-if". Partly because there's no competing company that can lure him away, and mostly because creatively and financially it's a bad idea. Also, and as much as people will hate to hear it, there's no going back to the Attitude Era, a time when such a heel turn was possible because that was the norm at the time of turning faces to heels. That was lightning in a bottle, a time when they could produce something that matched up with the pop culture that produced American Pie, South Park and crappy rock bands that used F-bombs in nearly every verse or chorus and still got radio play. It was playing to the lowest-common denominator, at a time when everything else was. They still do, but it just looks desperate now.

The Dynamic Dudes were definitely rip-offs of The Rockers, who themselves can be seen as 2nd-generation Rock & Roll Express.

In retrospect it worked but at the time and on this night I felt it was a really bad attempt to make people look away from the whole Bret debacle. WCW did it better by burying him.

Jack Nicholson's IMDB bio says he's a fan but I think that could be bullshit.

Would you have fixed Randy and Liz's marriage too?

And Smash didn't start suddenly talk in a fake Russian accent.

http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=36&page=4&year=1992&promotion=2

32, that's right.

How many episode of Legends of Wrestling are there exactly? They just put up another one and it looks like there's 36 altogether on there right now.

Hogan is not the example to use here, Bob Backlund is. It's one thing to just carry the company like those two did, but Cena arguably has put more work and dedication into it. He's already made headlines for his work with the Make-A-Wish foundation. And nobody is a better spokesman for the company like he is. Making him a heel now while he's still fairly young and strong would be a mistake for those reasons. Do it when he's almost out to pasture and forgotten about when so many others will eventually pass him by like Reigns is being designed to do now.

Today is JR's last official day as a WWE employee.

How many matches besides the 8-man and the coal miner's glove match did Jake Roberts have in WCW?

I'd ask him about the finish to his match with Orndorff at SuperBrawl '93.

The WWE Network description of the first episode of The Main Event says it was the most watched wrestling program in American TV history. I'm curious, what kind of ratings did it pull that night and how did it hold up against the other networks?

If Watts was racist, he must have hated wrestling. They just added more SNME's, through the end of 1989. That's smart, as opposed to putting them all up at once.

Bob Holly and Scott Norton would be an excellent shoot.

I think they started in 98.

Yes, but Flair was super over in 1993 for just having come back, especially in their southern strongholds.

So Cena = 22, Flair = 44. I can live with that.

How many championship reigns have both of them had, including non-WHC ones?

Being in A-list movies hasn't stopped WWE from keeping the belt on guys before though. It's just a number, and as much as I respect him he's not done nearly enough of what Ric did in those 16 title runs. To even further my bias towards Ric here, I think WWE should have at given him at least one run with the title during his 2002-2008 run.

I would bet Ole was just window-dressing to give the segment and the new group a little credibility, and that if expanded upon his role would have been similar to what it was in 1990. I think if it was Roma and one other guy of his stature/talent, it wouldn't have been the flop that it eventually was. Jeff Jarrett was a much worse Horseman than Paul was.

Part of the Roma problem is more that they just had 3 instead of 4, as Ole didn't do a whole lot other than that initial segment I believe.