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The big demerit against Vince for me is the persistent cheerleading for the heels he did on SNME. Jesse did well against that and looks better in hindsight, but he didn't need any help there. Vince comes off a little better in the mid-90's but I didn't like him at the time. I can stand it now though. I actually wish there was a way he would come back. With the right booking it could work.

I'm with Loss, I'm sticking around too. Sooner or later the obvious to us will become obvious to them. I still think it's the best idea they've had in years, and that it is a risk that will eventually pay off.

In my lifetime and experience of watching things live, Jim Ross pretty much had it all. He excelled in meeting all of that criteria, and managed to do so overcoming personal struggles with his BP. I have made my views on the Attitude Era pretty clear, but during that time, of both companies, he was far and away the best guy.

From historyofwwe.com WWF @ Inglewood, CA - Great Western Forum - January 15, 1994 The return to the venue after a 9-year absence The Headshrinkers defeated the Bushwhackers (sub. for the Smoking Gunns) Diesel pinned the 1-2-3 Kid after catching him in mid-air and dropping him face-first on the turnbuckle Bret Hart defeated Jeff Jarrett via disqualification WWF IC Champion Razor Ramon defeated Shawn Michaels in a ladder match IRS pinned Bob Backlund Crush defeated Randy Savage in a falls count anywhere match after Ludvig Borga interfered and prevented Savage from getting back into the ring within 60 seconds of being pinned Lex Luger & Tatanka defeated WWF World Champion Yokozuna & Ludvig Borga when Luger pinned Yoko; Luger had hit the champion with the running forearm but was knocked out by Borga with Yoko's salt bucket; both men were down until Luger crawled over to make the cove

One thing I think makes a heel fan is that they see them as the ultimate underdogs because they are characters designed, ultimately, to lose. I think this speaks more to how "real" it can feel for us. Those same people are likely not going to go into a movie and cheer for Bruce Willis to be killed. Yes they'll laugh at the villain's one-liners as much as they will his, but they'll jump cathartically when he gets his due in the end like the majority of wrestling fans would.

Don't forget Hogan pearl-harboring Sheik in the beginning of the match. I don't know how much of that aspect to the character was in the AWA, but it's pretty consistent through his big run.

I never understood why they went for the Sports Arena (who actually played there? other than wrestling all I hear about that place are concerts, specifically for being the first show of The Wall Pink Floyd played) when they could have booked the Great Western Forum.

That's not all, as Bret almost had a punch-up with Shane sometime during the weekend of that show.

Jesus Christ, his wife's name is Judy? They wanted people to see Hogan before they went to bed. It's not that too far away from what SNL has always done, which the show was a replacement for. Put the high spots up front and prioritize the rest.

Realistically I don't think WWE would want the TNA library. Considering that the Network is slow going on putting up much archival content as it is, I don't see what the point would be. Plus I would guess the next move by Dixie and company is to milk all they can out of merchandise.

Jake wanted Pat Patterson's vacated spot in creative, and when they didn't give it to him he held him up for a release, not more money. This is almost verbatim from Jake's DVD "Pick Your Poison".

I'm not totally clear on all of this, I thought Russo left. How did he kill this when he's supposedly not even employed by them anymore?

I'm surprised that this is their take on all this. I remember a period where they went crazy taking down stuff on YouTube. But it makes a little sense considering there is WWE stuff still being put on Netflix Instant too.

Not for nothing , but American Pie was great and South Park was and still is brilliant. You're right about the late 90's vibe in pop culture. Yeah, my comment wasn't meant to lump the first two with the latter in terms of quality, it's just that more raunchy material was cool and WWE attached itself to it for the sake of piggy-backing that vibe to beat WCW in the ratings. And it worked.

It worked itself out, and he did the smart thing by playing it up from the get-go. If he never comes back, the blue trunks and the wave goodbye was a perfect send-off.

The concept exists best as a "what-if". Partly because there's no competing company that can lure him away, and mostly because creatively and financially it's a bad idea. Also, and as much as people will hate to hear it, there's no going back to the Attitude Era, a time when such a heel turn was possible because that was the norm at the time of turning faces to heels. That was lightning in a bottle, a time when they could produce something that matched up with the pop culture that produced American Pie, South Park and crappy rock bands that used F-bombs in nearly every verse or chorus and still got radio play. It was playing to the lowest-common denominator, at a time when everything else was. They still do, but it just looks desperate now.

The Dynamic Dudes were definitely rip-offs of The Rockers, who themselves can be seen as 2nd-generation Rock & Roll Express.

In retrospect it worked but at the time and on this night I felt it was a really bad attempt to make people look away from the whole Bret debacle. WCW did it better by burying him.

Jack Nicholson's IMDB bio says he's a fan but I think that could be bullshit.

Would you have fixed Randy and Liz's marriage too?

And Smash didn't start suddenly talk in a fake Russian accent.

http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=36&page=4&year=1992&promotion=2

32, that's right.