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Random Reasons why people stopped watching wrestling
sek69 replied to Strummer's topic in Pro Wrestling
At the time I hated it too because I wanted to see Hogan get the title back after Tunney screwed him over in the last match when Flair got involved. This was probably the first time on a WWE PPV a heel went over, but it didnt stop me watching because I wanted to see Hogan kick Flair's ass and take the title back, alough we had to wait 2 years later to get that and seeing Savage beat Flair was just as good. But what I did find odd is when WCW closed down because they had alot of fans watching even when the numbers were down and they chose Nitro over Raw, I expected these fans to tune into WWE TV when WCW ended but seemed like they just stopped watching and wouldnt conform to a WWE fan. It really is one of the most under reported phenomenon in wrestling. A lot of WCW's base had ties going back to either Georgia or Mid Atlantic and the WWF was always the enemy or at best it was a style of wrestling they really didn't care for. When WCW went away it was the end of an era for a lot of folks when the wrestling they grew up with and loved ceased to exist. -
I must be missing something on why everyone seems to hate Cody so much. He's not like top 5 in the world, but people's reactions to him come off as "eww you got WWE in my New Japan". His heel work seemed to be finding its legs in ROH (until he got babyfaced by being put in the Bullet Club but that's a whole nother discussion).
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The Observer twitter account confirmed he asked for his release.
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You look at a guy like Aries, who along with being slotted as a cruiserweight is also very short, already has two strikes against him heading to the main roster. He probably would have been better off staying in NXT where none of that would have been viewed as a negative and he would be near the top of the card. Of course the downside is most people don't make a lot of money in NXT, and I doubt they would want to pay main roster level money and keep him down there. Most likely sequence of events is he probably asked if he's ever going to do anything besides 205 Live in the foreseeable future, and when they said no he peaced out.
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He apparently asked for his release, which honestly doesn't surprise me. His personality didn't seem to be a good fit for the main roster.
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Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
sek69 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
They should have went full petty and said she worked with him at the now-defunct TNA since that would be technically correct. OR they should have her just randomly show up on Raw and Smackdown to scare the shit out of Joe and AJ. -
Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
sek69 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
lol'ing so hard at this: They should have went full petty and said she worked with him at the now-defunct TNA since that would be technically correct. -
Watts handled JYD jumping to the WWF with all the delicacy of a jilted teenager (I get he was a big draw but still), and a lot of it was similar to Dave's ragging on him in the Observer.
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Funny that someone suggested an injury angle for next season when one of the memories I have of GLOW was one of the cheerleader girls dislocating her elbow on a rollup and them showing it multiple times, Joe Theismann style.
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Also I've noticed that several of the Old School shows that have gone up have the "presented in the best condition possible" disclaimer. I wonder if that means they are going through the archives seeing what shape the oldest stuff is since I've always heard the WWWF collection doesn't go much past 1975 or so in any kind of usable shape.
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A few have bonus footage that was for the live crowd after TV ended, might have been that.
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I always suspected maybe Bill Watts was burying JYD to Dave. Plus (and he's said as much several times) he was resentful that the WWF style he wasn't particularly fond of was usurping the NWA/territory style he preferred. Now he's much more "I still don't like it, but I can respect that they made way more money than what I did like so I can't fault them for winning the war". 80s Dave was a lot less "professional journalist" than the Dave we're used to today, and it really jumps out when you go back and read old Observers,
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Watching the MSG shows it hit me, is there anyone in wrestling who deteriated as fast as Billy Graham? In 1978 he's still Superstar looking like the guy Hulk would crib 90% of his gimmick from, but five years later in 1983 he's Kung Fu Billy looking like he's in the end stage of a terminal disease.
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The Yeti was a mummy because rumors/legends/myths circulate of several mummified Yeti remains being kept. Had El Gigante actually gotten the role as planned, he would eventually have removed the bandages to reveal a white version of his Giant Gonzalez outfit. Never heard of this(although it sounds cool). Where did you hear this information? I heard the mummified Yeti stuff on some wrestling board so read up on some of it, and suddenly the Yeti as a mummy made much more sense. I'm guessing with Sullivan being such a history buff probably did it intentionally, but never heard him actually say it or be asked. They even did DNA test a couple years ago on one in Bhutan to determine if it was related to the polar bear. So it's kind of fascinating stuff. The El Gigante part came from Ron Reis IIRC, who was supposed to be a Giant Ninja (which he was in the WW3 battle royal and a couple TV matches, although was still called the Yeti despite the ninja moves). El Gigante was in poor health and unable to get to the US. He actually only had one match left a month later in a giants tag team tournament in WAR, where he was basically helped to the ring, held on to the top rope, and was clipped on the apron so he never had to stand on his own or tag in. So it was easy to see why he would never have been able to perform in WCW. Makes you wonder why they just didn't do the angle anyway with Reis, it's not like having a legit 7'2 guy doing it would have killed the gimmick,
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They're beating her quick which usually means a phase out, but obviously they're going somewhere with it. Other times quick matches are a sign of them not liking someone's in ring ability, but Lana didn't seem to be that bad for someone of her experience level. It's not like she was sticking out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the women.
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Xavier was the only one on the New Day who brought it, the Usos completely owned them. Also it seems the "R rated like your boy" line got cut from the version up on WWE's YouTube page. Do they really think the Paige deal is that well known?
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Another MSG show from 1977 appeared, and the WWE Network News site (who normally is right about these things) says the July dump is set for the 10th with WWE ECW and perhaps some WCCW stuff.
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I guess it depends if you believe the stories that Hunter is getting pissed at how NXT talent is getting used on the main roster, but it really wouldn't surprise me to find out the Kevin Dunn types are trying to sour Vince on them since it seems pretty obvious Hunter's going to install his guys when he takes over.
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When you think about it, the Steph wedding was basically "she likes it" for the Attitude Era.
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Ric Flair's retirement speech with everyone coming out to say thanks hit me hard in the feels as someone who first became a fan thanks to JCP.
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Also BRAUN punting poor Apollo across the goddamn ring was godlike.
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I know the "life" tattoo is real, he discussed it on Superstar Ink. Looked like the "new" part was written on.
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They kind of have to though, it wouldn't make sense for them to have their homegrown talent all get run over. Maybe not final four level, but there's going to be a few indy women brought in just to make the PC crew look good.
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Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
sek69 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Pretty much the same only with a bald head now. btw the Alberto-Lashley match was pretty good too. Alberto won with his top rope footstomp move that somehow hasn't caused an old timer to rant on how it's killing the business yet. -
Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
sek69 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Sienna/Rosemary to unify the GFW and TNA women's titles was a decent match with a twist on the usual green mist deal (Sienna put her hand over Rosemary's mouth when she sprayed the mist then rubbed her eyes to be able to lock her into a submission win). So the main event is Lashley with King Mo and assorted American Top Team members in his corner vs Alberto with Dos Caras Sr and Jr in his corner. This is already the most pro wrestling thing ever.