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So the Nick Gage Invitational took place last night for Game Changer Wrestling...without Nick Gage. They tweeted something about parole but hard to tell if it is a shoot. Still, considering it is a 2015 deathmatch tournament it looks pretty darn alright from clips. The atmosphere is completely fuggin' scuzzy in the best way possible. The fact that there seems to be honest to god people in attendance ups the ante. In Chikara King of Trios news/rumor, Fenix swore very loudly in his match (the news) and was told to leave afterwards because of it(rumor that robviper says is not at all true. Too bad).

Quick thoughts on N1: -Tons of variety. Between character work, pacing, and stylistically, the show was super easy to get through(even if I skipped the main event because I am lazy) -Moose is wonderful. A truly shocking development. -I love beef. Love it between two slices of bread and love it between the ropes. Kongo Kong and Tank delivered essentially what I expected. I didn't need more than they gave me. THOUGH if Empire down the line wanted to book this in a more "hardcore" type match I would be 100% for it. -Coleman vs. Collins was my MOTN. Can totally understand why Henry vs. Rave got a ton of hype out of the show as it felt like a well worked main event to an ROH live event. And on this show that would certainly stick out compared to this match ACTUALLY being a main event on an ROH live event. Still, really good match. Coleman vs. Collins was more interesting on a couple levels though. First, Coleman doesn't get a ton of time to shine in ROH. In this R1 match he looked like one of the best hands on the indie scene today. Makes me want to go back through his AML work where he is champion(or was at least) even if it wasn't as good as the Collins match. He came across as someone you could easily throw into a TV title program or tag title program with no problem.The bump he took at the end looked ridiculous. Collins isn't a finished article by any means. Part of that is because he doesn't even have finished tights. Some of his suplexes were brutal though, in a completely awesome way. -Whoo has done a tremendous job at making these shows accessible. Many indies are hopping on the streaming service train BUT I'm not sure if there is a complete enough indie out there, outside of maybe EVOLVE, to make that a worthy purchase. With the SCI you have a piecemeal rental approach as well as a full show approach and I suppose a DVD approach as well if that is your speed. Southern indie wrestling is not known for their forward thinking approach to distribution. That is their prerogative though. Likewise, you can't blame people for not trying to scour the web for this stuff when it is hit-or-miss and even the hits can come in shite packaging. I know Empire TV has a video section on their site but I have lost the password twice so it can piss off. Like...just lemme watch the videos? Okay, Okay, back to Whoo and SCI. Giving customers choice is great. They've gone above and beyond to deliver that and I think they have even underpriced this. Actually, they've underpriced it but if the intent is to get people in the door after they tested things out with Styles vs. Rave then I completely understand. THAT match was not correctly priced in my eyes as it was $6 for a DVD with one match and for $3 you didn't even get to own it on VOD. Here they turned the corner and are giving you quality wrestling, quality production, very affordable pricing, and flexible purchasing. Whoo could do wonders on changing the perception of southern indie wrestling as "backwards" as far as releasing footage.

I don't think I really started watching wrestling out of enjoyment of it. My dad was a fan of it back in the day so I watched it with him. Was something to do with him since he worked a good bit. I was a child brought up on the WWF Attitude Era baby and the fact that I am a fully functional person now is staggering stuff. I attached to the over-the-top nature of it all. In school I would become a drama club kid so it all sorta makes sense. Now I am less attached to that aspect. I watch it cause it is cool? I don't know. Characters performing to entertain in various different formats and settings. Like, watching Claudio's arc as a person in wrestling is awesome. Seeing him in ROH, wXw, Chikara, WWE, and NXT all present a slightly different version of the wrestler in front of a different crowd. I'm not even sure that is why I like it though. My emotions aren't mine to control! I can explain why I like X in the domain of Y but not sure about explain why I like Y. I can tell you why I like Game of Thrones or indie romances with a hint of sci-fi BUT I can't tell you why I like TV or movies.

Yeah, there is a women's Top 50 issue too I believe.

From the ratings I have seen I can confirm that I am lower on Hollis vs. Lynch than most but higher on Tank/Kong and Moose/Hamill. Those two matches made me want to eat several buckets of popcorn and scream for joy. If nothing else you can't say these shows don't have variety as I am only through half a card and everything feels fresh.

Same post from the same person of the same list. Will respond with same remark: WHO GIVES A CRAP? (shot at list, not person JUST to clarify)

If you aren't on Twitter you might not have heard that the much raved about, mostly by Dylan, Scenic City Invitational has been released on VOD today: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/sceniccity2015 I'm only halfway through Night 1 but unless these shows fall off a cliff then this may be the best bargain in indie wrestling this year. Whoo Wrestling going this Vimeo route is tremendous because they take it a step further than most other promotions on the site have. Not only can you buy both shows for $11 (or if you buy this weekend use the code LABORDAY to save 10%) but you can also buy individual matches. While I went for the whole thing, if you are really strapped for cash and need to see Rave vs. Henry then that is a tremendous value. It feels like the south has been so far behind compared to other independent wrestling regions in the States that Whoo going above and beyond the vast majority of the promotions in regards to delivering these shows is amazing to see. The wrestling is good, it is MORE than affordable and the customer can choose the way they buy into the shows. All those aspects I believe are worth supporting in a world where PWG's BOLA will run you $50 before S&H. I think anyone on this board especially who doesn't buy this tournament is out of their mind.

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Will vote for him based on his WSX work. Same for Jack Evans.

I think I can call Joe vs. Kobashi my Bayley vs. Sasha. I can't de-emotionally invest from the match. And I will mark for it accordingly.

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W2BTD, I can not wait to see your list. I genuinely mean that cause I expect some real corkers in there that you might not expect from this sorta list.

I see myself being conceivably higher on a few of the more modern candidates. My list is far from put together but by merely being on my list, Matt Hardy, Matt Sydal, Christian and Sheamus maybe. Also, Casas has as good a shot as anyone as being my #1 so there's that.

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Should we be talking about this a bit more or is it a non-issue to most? NXT came to Albany, about a two hour drive. I wasn't busy but I decided I would rather stay home than watch that. Keep in mind I have drove farther for shows headlined by Jim Duggan so it doesn't take a ton to get me out the door. I care so little about promos and build so that is probably a bigger hit to NXT. If I don't care about the match at the end of the line I don't care about seeing how we get there. Ring of Honor I think has better chances to have good stand alone shows. They have far more talents I want to see like Strong, Castle, Briscoes, Moose, ACH, Matt Sydal, and War Machine. They of course of the occasional Styles and Young Bucks which is a plus. NXT has...I have no idea who on that roster I'd be interested in watching. Sasha and Becky? And unless they are paired together that is a tough sell. Balor, Owens, Breeze, and Corbin aren't people I want to go see. They just don't draw me in. Admittedly Corbin is probably a lousy pick but Joe seems like someone who NXT doesn't want to focus on as a draw or it just comes across like that for someone who is not really paying attention to the product all too much.

Kris's point on the upcoming ROH Atlanta show should be dismissed: ie: Moose vs. Jay Briscoe

I live in Upstate NY too and I say screw nice weather. But really I have found myself using YouTube more and more to do the rabbit hole method. I have watched enough stuff where the algorithms are already somewhat working so I throw on something that looks real interesting, some theme I want to hit on that night and go through recommended matches for a couple hours. Leads to some neat discoveries of matches I never knew existed. Maybe not the most efficient way to hit things I "should" watch but a great way to sample a style or person.

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Another TRUE New Yorker on PWO. Helluva time to be alive.

I have looked at this question multiple times and still not exactly sure where I stand. In 2015 I find myself leaning more towards SMALL but that might just be because there is more stuff worked well in the SMALL department and less wrestlers "playing to the cheap seats". Like Thatcher right now is a hot fella on the message boards. He works small I dig it because while some say he is simply working a hold for 10 minutes, to me he is actually doing work in that time period versus some random Japanese juniors match that could do lots of STUFF that is BIG but it takes longer to set up and "sell" than it does to perform in a meaningful manner. At the same time you have someone like Dragon Lee who I think works BIG. His ability to bump like a mad man, to the point anyone could see he might die out there, is as enjoyable to watch, there just doesn't seem to be as much of that stuff done well right now. Cena vs. Owens comes off as something I would consider "big" but at the same time not stellar yet gets wildly praised. If that is what we have for the upper echelon of BIG wrestling than maybe it is just not as hot these days. Or I'm looking the in wrong places. The question is which do you prefer? I don't really think I prefer either one. If you are being wildly expressive, that's great. If you are angling for a hold for a good 5 minutes in an interesting manner, that's equally great. They aren't mutually exclusive ideas obviously either. I don't know where I was going with any of this tbh.

This match feels must watch.

I think he's probably has a complete handful under his belt! I also think he has seen enough to form his opinion. I ALSO think "Ugh, no" is silly.

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Incredible banter. #DG4Lyfe

I think for BOLA it is a bit different. At least it'll be the set of shows with the most amount of fans flying in.