C.S.

Me neither re: Anderson and Gallows, but this has been a pretty decent show so far. For once, every match and segment has seemed to "matter" in some way.

Wasn't aware that his stellar wrestling training included bullying outside reporters for no reason whatsoever, not to mention talking bad about the trainees lining his pockets behind their backs. Nothing wrong with being a tough disciplinarian, but that isn't what I was criticizing at all. His hypocrisy and lack of class are complete embarrassments IMO. Okay, some of it is because he's from a different era, didn't have much formal education, etc., but those excuses only go so far. Yeah, he's a great trainer with a great track record of talent, and like everything else in 'rasslin, those skills give him a free pass with the fans.

The only thing this had going for it was the shocking result, and even that meant nothing 24 hours later.

Were Waltman and Chyna even on friendly terms? I always heard they had a very bad relationship and breakup because of both of their substance abuse and mental issues.

My thoughts on a couple of things: - SEX = Sports Entertainment Xtreme, right? I wonder why WWE never copyrighted the term "sports-entertainment," as they invented it (although Meltzer says he originally coined the term "athletic entertainment"). - Jarrett was stale and past the point of no return as champion, but even then, I understood the reluctance to switch it over to Raven, who was probably perceived as being one relapse away from being unreliable again. 'Course, why push someone like that to the top of the card in the first place? Lack of better options, I suppose?

Turns out there's nothing to the Swagger rumors after all. He was just tweeting about the last day of the tour. But I agree: he'd go over gangbusters in Japan. Even looks like one of those Street Fighter/Saturday Night Slam Masters characters.

What is Wade saying differently from Dave? What IS the truth in this giant clusterfuck of a situation?

I have no idea what happened in Memphis, but I remember Bubba Monroe showing up in the GWF for at least one match, and the commentator (can't remember if it was Doyle King by then) constantly referring to him as Sputnik and then apologizing for his confusion because the resemblance was so strong. This would've been '92 or '93 maybe.

Do you mean them chanting "This is Awesome!" during the opening headlock of a match?

I remember him being a big smark favorite at the time, but then he disappeared into thin air. What happened?

I was just wondering if it was actually true. Didn't mean it as a criticism of Hogan other than that, and I care even less about the love life of Brutus Beefcake.

Has anyone heard this before...brother? (Bolding is mine.) https://twitter.com/HulkHogan/status/723112349817663488

From Mick Foley on Facebook:

This post sums up my feelings, more or less. I know others have said they're not shocked by this, but I kinda am. She seemed - seemed being the key word - to be getting her life back in order. This death is particularly tragic to me. It's so sad, and such a shame. I really think the way she was exiled from WWE was cold and cruel, HHH's response to the Hall of Fame issue was likewise, and Vince Russo's attempts to "help" with a public interview probably did more harm than good. But her issues, sadly, stemmed long before she ever set foot in WWE. She always struck me as someone with major self-esteem issues. If the WWE "family" had reached out more, who knows. Then again, being around wrestlers and the wrestling lifestyle has done a lot of harm, too, to people who couldn't handle it (Scott Hall, Elizabeth, etc.). No easy answers here, but definitely heartbreaking. I wish this kind of respect and gratitude had been extended to Chyna in life, particularly from the McMahons and Triple H. Too little, too late now, unfortunately. :\ I thought they would've learned after Ultimate Warrior, who they at least acknowledged in time. But that's looking more and more like an aberration. Situations like Randy Savage are, sadly, more the norm, it seems.

Either way, it's absolutely glorious. Anyway, not sure if this deserves its own thread. Split it off if it does. Adam Rose responds to his suspension: https://twitter.com/WWEAdamRose/status/722871253384740864

WWE shouldn't offer him a cent. He's not a crossover star. I barely know who he is, and others on this board know even less than me. Why bother?

Chip off the old block then.

I think the cup is shopped, but it's still funny. This is where it originated: https://twitter.com/Susie_4186/status/722429794894221316

Agreed 100%. But when Vince Russo says the same thing, and he has many times, he's derided mercilessly. Everything about his style is outdated and stuck in the '90s, but he's never been wrong about character building. Obviously, some of his characters left a lot to be desired ("Fat Chick Thriller/That '70s Guy," etc.) but at least he tried to give everyone - including the friggin' Jerry Flynns of the world - something to do. That's sorely missing today. When I remember and care more about Major Gunns than the majority of the characters in WWE today, you know something's wrong.

Agree with both of these, except that I think Dillinger should get a huge push. His character is great, he's good on the mic, solid in the ring, and got amazing heat from the fans during the Nakamura match. Time to get behind this guy IMO. Really fun show this week. - Angelo Dawkins clearly has some kind of charisma, but his loud, brash character didn't work for me and would die an instant death on the main roster, where Vince and Hayes would interpret it as "too street." That's probably why he's still a JTTS in NXT. - Really looking forward to Charlotte and Tessa Blanchard's interactions in a couple of years. Really don't understand the point of debuting Tessa as a face JTTS though. She should have been held back and protected IMO. I realize she'll probably eventually be repackaged as Tulla, or something dumb like that, but still. - Gargano and Ciampa have the most jobber looking TitanTron video ever, and I didn't buy their victory over The Vaudevillains for a second because they're not over and don't have characters. Being "ROH legends" means nothing to me, and apparently even less to anyone at Full Sail. Jury's still out on the viability of these two. Making them a tag team is probably a good move though. - Trevor Knight feels like another Bull Dempsey, and he got flatlined by Baron Corbin the same way. - The American Alpha/Enzo and Cass vignette didn't quite work for me because Jason Jordan's facials aren't convincing at all and the lines they all had to recite did not sound authentic. Still, it will be a fun match, so who cares. - Bayley's entrance, mannerisms, and behaviors seemed fine to me. Besides, everyone has robo-entrances now that can't be deviated from in any way. Ryback is the worst when it comes to this.

Now I'm wondering if I was actually thinking about this match, from WCW: He's still Studd there, and I had Austin in the back of my mind as his opponent, but I discarded that because I thought it was a WWF match.

I might think of more later, but off the top of my head... Scotty Riggs/Anton I was the only one who liked him in ECW and cheered his heel turn against RVD. I also thought he was much better than Bagwell. I remember him showing up in the WWF as Scott Studd before his WCW run and working a pretty decent long match with someone - I wish I could remember who it was, but I do know it aired on Prime Time Wrestling. Repo Man Yes, Barry Darsow is a favorite (at least on this board), but I'm talking specifically about the silly-ass Repo Man character, which always made me smile. Great laugh, great catchphrase, great costume. Darsow had a "main event" run with Smash (as far as tag teams go in the WWF anyway), but he still went all-in and embraced this goofy shit, even though he had to know he wouldn't be headlining anything with it. Curt Hennig/West Texas Rednecks/Rap is Crap This was pure and utter WrestleCrap, but Hennig embraced it and turned himself and his cohorts babyface in the process (Dubya C Dubya never acknowledged that, but the fans sure did).

The real question is, does anyone care enough about about the Bruise/Blu/Harris Brothers to dig that deeply into them? The answer is probably no.

I really wished the "like" button worked here, because I'd "like" the fuck out of this post. Wrestlers, especially old-school wrestlers, have no clue how poorly they come across. And why should they? They'll have sycophantic fans eating their shit and thinking it tastes like birthday cake.

Fun thread so far. Just one thing though: Pretty sure this was an intentional part of his "Dead Man" gimmick at the time.