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Not sure if John Tenta or the Barbarian fit the the category since they are pretty respected. Warlord and Ludvig Borga probably do. Had Mark Henry not ended up doing so well in later years, he would've made my list based on his early stuff. Mike Awesome as well! Those are just some off the top of my head.

I was thinking he had to have wrestled Tully Blanchard in 1987-88 or Dustin Rhodes in 99-2001, but he didn't face either in singles matches where Warrior did. Same with Barry Darsow as Smash vs Warrior. Both faced Harley Race, Nailz/the Prisoner, Black Bart, Tracy Smothers and Dusty Wolfe.

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I know in one of the first 1989 showdowns between babyface Studd and heel Andre, when Studd makes the save for Duggan, Andre takes a beating that you never saw him take as a heel. Dropped to the floor with one punch to the gut, and then eventually brought back into the ring over the top with another shot and knocked to the ground to bail. I've always heard he was annoyed by Studd because he tried to suck up to him all the time, I don't think he actually hated him in any malicious way. And they were even rumored to face off again in the UWF in 1991, even had Andre do a promo where he ripped apart a Studd LJN doll IIRC. But Studd never appeared and Andre was just the one or two interviews with Captain Lou.

I wanted to see that one as well, although I still wanted to see one of their stretcher matches even more (maybe next time?). Hogan did pin the Shark once on an episode of WCW Pro after hitting him with a chair outside the ring IIRC. I remember finding that one on youtube once and realizing he'd never pinned him as Earthquake or Avalanche in a televised match, so that was unique. They had great chemistry together and it's a shame they didn't work more in WCW. When I rewatched Summerslam 1990 a year ago, both the main events were really great, but neither gets talked about that much.

Picked it up today and look forward to watching it the next few days. I did notice that the front says 1986-95, which is accurate for the included matches, but the back says 1985-96 in the title and the description. Surprised that wouldn't have been noticed before it went to print.

It didn't stop Roddy Piper. When did Piper have his surgery? Pretty sure it was before WM12. I always thought his rebuttal for WWF pointing out he main evented Starrcade with a fake hip was that they didn't seem to mind when he'd wrestled Goldust a few months earlier.

The early Heats and Thunders still felt like a big deal, so those will be fun to see again. When they started taping multiple episodes of Thunder at one taping, and when WWF added Smackdown as the second show is when they really got watered down. But sometimes those random ex-WWF guys on Thunder like Bulldog, Jannetty, Nord, Darsow etc are exactly why I'd enjoy watching those again.

The Scorpio/Bagwell win was taped a few weeks earlier, but didn't air until the day before Halloween Havoc. Then the Nasties regained at the PPV. So it was a one day reign in TV time, but nothing out of order.

Speaking of WCW and things being unaired do you reckon WWE has the stuff that never made it to air like the interview with Sid as WCW Champion after he beat Vader at Starrcade 93? I know Flair was the replacement that won the title but you hear over the years about stuff being filmed in advance. The Sid taped as champion stuff is just a myth. The July tapings that Sid was part of only ran through 11/20, a few weeks before Starrcade. The November 12th taping for the end of the month and post-Starrcade was more than two weeks after the stabbing and suspension, Sid wasn't around for those at all. He had already taped some BattleBowl promos that made it to TV, and the edited match where the Kongs took him out after the Clash aired. His run in and subsequent match with one of the Kongs never aired since they knew he was done. Those two things could possibly be in their tapes. Not sure a Sid-Kong squash would count as a hidden gem, but be interesting to see nonetheless. Were there any other stuff they filmed years ago from that time period? If the Sid thing was a myth when you read various magazines and they say about people filmed with the belts in Disney because the crowd wasen't wrestling fans I was wondering who else might have had taped stuff. Im sure there was a tag team who did this but can't remember there name. The Freebirds (Hayes/Garvin) had the tag belts and were taped losing them before they ever won them at the following week's Clash. That was what I was referencing earlier. You may be mixing up two different reigns, which is understandable. Are you talking about 1991 when they lost the belts at a taping to the Steiners before they actually won them from Doom at Wrestlewar? In 1989, they'd also lost them to the Steiners, that time it had been taped before the upcoming Clash where they defended them against the Road Warriors. But they beat the Roadies via DQ to retain them. There was also a deal where the Nasty Boys, Harlem Heat and Dick Slater/Bunkhouse Buck's title changes were a bit out of order. Harlem Heat was taped regaining the belts from the Nasty Boys before the Nasty Boys had actually won the belts from them at Slamboree. Then Buck and Slater were taped beating Heat for the belts, before they'd aired the previous rematch and Heat had yet to win the belts back on TV.

Speaking of WCW and things being unaired do you reckon WWE has the stuff that never made it to air like the interview with Sid as WCW Champion after he beat Vader at Starrcade 93? I know Flair was the replacement that won the title but you hear over the years about stuff being filmed in advance. The Sid taped as champion stuff is just a myth. The July tapings that Sid was part of only ran through 11/20, a few weeks before Starrcade. The November 12th taping for the end of the month and post-Starrcade was more than two weeks after the stabbing and suspension, Sid wasn't around for those at all. He had already taped some BattleBowl promos that made it to TV, and the edited match where the Kongs took him out after the Clash aired. His run in and subsequent match with one of the Kongs never aired since they knew he was done. Those two things could possibly be in their tapes. Not sure a Sid-Kong squash would count as a hidden gem, but be interesting to see nonetheless.

At least once. 11/2/98 on Nitro. He also beat him a couple of other times, one was a four-way for the CW title that I can't find out who pinned who, and another was a tag match, same thing. I think Psycosis pinned Rey in the tag match on the 1/4/99 Georgia Dome show. He pinned Blitzkrieg to win the title in the fourway.

Always found it strange that Beefcake was on the losing end to Rick Martel more often then not at house shows from September 1989 through March 1990, including a December MSG TV match, when his push should've been at it's all time high coming off Summerslam and into the No Hold Barred match, and then onto "ending" Mr Perfect's televised winning streak to most of the audience (Warrior had beat him right before that on MSG TV) and likely an IC title reign. But maybe it had more to do with the plans for Martel, he left for a few months that summer which probably wasn't planned. He was advertised to face Tito at Summerslam which probably wouldn't have happened if they planned on him being gone. Then he came back and was put into the big angle with Jake.

Bischoff talked about that on his podcast, it was really interesting. He said that he got a really good deal from the Hendrix estate for using Voodoo Chile, but that if you were to try and use the same music now, it would cost millions because of all the different platforms that the song would be heard on - he basically said it would be impossible. Of course, there was the way Paul Heyman got around that, he just used music without permission. And it was also a deal IIRC where they couldn't play the whole song, just a certain segment of the song (keep in mind the whole song is 5:12), but they could play that part as much as they wanted without any problems.

Garvin and Sunshine on the farm definitely holds up! Almost everything they did with Bill Mercer on location was great.

My brother got a copy off ebay after we'd watched some PWTW episodes and saw the ad. Pretty fun game to play, never listened to the record that was included though.

Started watching it and am through six episodes. Really enjoy it, hope for a season 2.

It was probably the Los Angeles show, they worked in the next night in Mexico. Onita, Santo and Tarzan Goto vs. Casas, Horace Boulder, and Tim Patterson.

The Yeti was a mummy because rumors/legends/myths circulate of several mummified Yeti remains being kept. Had El Gigante actually gotten the role as planned, he would eventually have removed the bandages to reveal a white version of his Giant Gonzalez outfit. Never heard of this(although it sounds cool). Where did you hear this information? I heard the mummified Yeti stuff on some wrestling board so read up on some of it, and suddenly the Yeti as a mummy made much more sense. I'm guessing with Sullivan being such a history buff probably did it intentionally, but never heard him actually say it or be asked. They even did DNA test a couple years ago on one in Bhutan to determine if it was related to the polar bear. So it's kind of fascinating stuff. The El Gigante part came from Ron Reis IIRC, who was supposed to be a Giant Ninja (which he was in the WW3 battle royal and a couple TV matches, although was still called the Yeti despite the ninja moves). El Gigante was in poor health and unable to get to the US. He actually only had one match left a month later in a giants tag team tournament in WAR, where he was basically helped to the ring, held on to the top rope, and was clipped on the apron so he never had to stand on his own or tag in. So it was easy to see why he would never have been able to perform in WCW.

The Yeti was a mummy because rumors/legends/myths circulate of several mummified Yeti remains being kept. Had El Gigante actually gotten the role as planned, he would eventually have removed the bandages to reveal a white version of his Giant Gonzalez outfit.

Yes, managed by Slick I believe.

Possibly their first match in Providence, where they showed a clip in the promo about the rematch. Hogan also pinned Jake in 1992 on the same show the Mountie beat Bret for the IC title, which they showed highlights from during the Royal Rumble so may have taped the whole show.

Then she'd have to lose a bunch of matches. If that happened, folks still would have complained, said she was being buried, and probably whined about Vince and Kevin Dunn. I still remember when Charlotte came up for one shot and lost to Natalya on RAW. The internet was furious that she'd been wasted and buried, and she'd never recover.

Dory/Baba/Kerry Von Erich beat Hansen/Bob Brown/Joe LeDuc 4/14/1984 All Japan.

Not a shocking title change, in fact it was actually kind of easy to see coming, but the fashion in which the Colossal Connection destroyed Demolition without Ax even getting to make a tag was shocking.