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@Laz Nope. I didn't think it was funny but I didn't find it offensive at all. Yeah exactly, that's the joke. Its not a good joke or a funny joke but that is the joke.

Thought I just had in the shower, Mick Foley's run as a top guy in WWF normalized what I consider the two biggest problems I see in modern wrestling- career threatening dangerous bumps and bad skit comedy. Sure there were other people during my childhood who got over risking their well being with dangerous bumps and sure there were guys who got over doing stupid comedy sketches, but there was nobody who drew as much money or had the same level of success doing those two things as Mick Foley. So my question is, if Mick Foley hadn't had the level of success he had, would we now have the dangerous bumps and excessive violence that seems to plauge modern wrestling? And if Mick hadn't had the level of success he did, would we have the horrible terrible comedy we see every Monday night in bad sketches and on the indies with dick flips and the Invisible Man, etc?

Jay White, Rush, Dragon Lee, PCO, and Marty Scurll all anounced for Super Card of Honor

Nakamaki retired in the early 2000s after spending most of the 90s bouncing from one sleazaresu/ garbage indy to another. He was sort of suposed to be like a poor man's Onita. Hiroshi Ono only worked IWA Japan for a few years and never popped up anywhere else.

Does Kota Ibushi have the best punches in wrestling?

Loved the opening 8 man tag. It was just chalked full of nostalgic moments and really was a great way to kick off the show. The two filler tags were perfectly fine with some nice little moments sprinkled in. I really enjoyed the tag title match. I've been high on both Finley and Robinson since they debuted in New Japan so it was a feel good moment to see them win. Archer vs Moxley was my match of the night, just absolutely brutal. I fell asleep during the junior title match. I know a lot of people here loved it, but i have a hard time staying awake during Will Ospreay matches. I don't know if its the same reason I fall asleep every time I'm dragged to the ballet or if its just his matches are usually in the middle of a card and after two to three hours of watching anything while on the sofa I doze off. I dunno. Thought Naito vs Jay White was ok nothing great nothing bad. Loved Okada vs Ibushi. Typical Okada main event, started out dreadfully slow, picked up in the middle with some dangerous bumps and stiff dangerous shots and finished red hot.

No. Dolph Ziggler is a bad motherfucker who set NCAA records for pins and sleeps with famous actresses. On paper he is everything you want from a top guy.

26,000, 35,000, and 38,000 are not sell outs in a 65,000 seat building. And continuing to claim otherwise discredits any point you make.

Oh absolutely with the MSG show. People assumed that the main event would be Omega vs Okada not Jay White vs Okada. As for the Dallas and Long Beach shows, they did fine without the Elite, not great but fine.

I think we may be jumping the gun saying NJPW wasn't successful in the US. I mean They did sell out MSG and have had a number of shows that sold between 5000 and 7000 tickets. Its far from an abject failure just because they don't want to be in bed with AXS's new ownership.

1- Cody vs Dustin AEW Double of Nothing 2- Tyler Bate vs Walter NXT Takeover Cardiff 3- Jay White vs Kota Ibushi G1 Finals 4- Blue Demon Jr vs Dr. Wagner Jr Mask vs Hair AAA Triplemania 5- Daniel Bryan vs Kofi Kingston Wrestlemania 6- Metalico vs Virus Career vs Career CMLL Jucio Final 5/31/19 7- LA Park vs Jacob Fatu MLW Saturday Night Superfight PPV 8- Yuji Okabayashi vs Takuya Nomura BJW 7/21/19 9- LA Park vs Rush Monterrey 10/13/19 10- Josh Barnett vs Minoru Suzuki BloodSport

^^^ Agreed with everything you said. I was just thinking about Orange Cassidy. While he might not be my cup of tea, I think he may be the smartest man in pro wrestling. Everybody out there now a days is killing themselves with big bumps and big dives trying to get over. And here Orange Cassidy gets over doing the exact opposite! He takes 1 (usually small ) bump in most matches and makes it count more than some of the incredibly dangerous bumps we see other guys taking. With that he gets a bigger reaction each time he bumps than when Janela or Moxley or Omega or Allin take a dozen death defying bumps in a match. Anybody who can figure out a way to make six figures wrestling once a week and not doing anything that could jeopardize his long term health is fucking brilliant in my opinion.

Two matches that haven't been mentioned yet- Jay White vs Kota Ibushi G1 Finals, and Dr. Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr Mask vs Hair

Okada, not even close. New Japan had been on life support for years when Okada came back from excursion in 2012. 7 years later they are drawing 10,000 plus fans several times a year thanks to him. Really its an arguement as to who was pushed and promoted better and thats not even remotely close.

I'd agree that Naito's 5 year long title chase has been one of the best things in wrestling this decade.

To me the best matches of the decade were Okada vs Shibata, AJ Styles vs MiSu, Canis Lupus vs Trauma 1 mask vs mask, Tyler Bate vs Walter, Cena vs Punk MITB, Gargano vs Almas, Gargano vs Ciampa 1, and Dustin vs Cody. Wrestler of the Decade would probably be AJ Styles, Okada, Daniel Bryan or LA Park for me. Feud of the decade I'd give to LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr, LA Park vs Rush, or Gargano vs Ciampa. All of those feuds were super heated, yet none of them had a satisfying conclusion unfortunately.

Usually in the past when Cornette did or said something offensive, I always defended him as simply being unfiltered or politically incorrect. But this comment really can't be explained or reasoned away. Its just in poor taste and unfunny. It is the exact sort of joke or comment that gets people fired.

I just looked up the Joey Ryan jokes, they made me laugh (and made me feel like a bad person for laughing at them). And no Memphis was not a territory full of shooters, legit athletes, or tough guys like Mid South or the AWA. Jerry Lawler had an athletic background, he played high school football and baseball. Not super impressive I know. But the thing is a lot of the guys out there now don't even have that modest sports background. I don't expect every wrestler to be a dangerous shooter or a stud former athlete, but there used to be a bare minimum of athletic background and being able to handle ones self that just doesn't exist any more. How can somebody break into wrestling never having played organized sports and never having been in a fight. It truly boggles my mind. What would happen to a guy like Janela or Jimmy Havoc if a drunk fan jumped the guard rail and went after them? They'd lose most likely. I think its why so many matches now look like a theatrical performance rather than a fight or athletic contest. As soooo many of these guys have no experience being in an athletic contest or being in a fight, how could they possibly put on a match that resembles a fight or athletic contest. Talk to people outside of the internet wrestling bubble who casually watch wrestling from time to time. See how those types view some of the indierific guys out there at the moment.

I'm a hundred pounds over weight and after the footage from the Blink 182 concert, I'm 100% certain I would kick Joey Janela's ass let alone my childhood heros. Also the Justin Roberts joke is funny. People need to stop looking for things to be offended by. A lot of this thread reminds me of the calls for Netflix to cancel Dave Chappelle. My generation needs to have a sense of humor and stop taking every comment soooo fucking seriously. And even if you don't find the comment funny or in poor taste understand that its a fucking joke.

No. It means he grew up in Kentucky during a time where that was considered acceptable language. It ceased to be acceptable language so hence he no longer uses the the term. If you look at anyone from that generation through a modern lense, they are going to look at best out of touch and at worst biggotted. His views on wrestling reflect that. He grew up going to the Louisville Gardens in the 70s. Memphis was the first territory he worked. So of course the pinnacle of great wrestling to him is Memphis is the 70s and early 80s. And the further any wrestling strays from what wrestling was to him, the less enthused he will be. Its like the South Park episode where the kids are all listening to teen wave music, but to their parents it just sounds like somebody taking a shit. The exception was Randy Marsh who insisted he loved the new teen music in a desperate attempt to seem cool and relevant to the kids. There are wrestlers of Cornette's era who will do anything to seem cool and relevant. He isn't one of them. He acts as he could give two shits if his opinions are cool or relevant. By having that attitude and sharing frequently unpopular opinions, Cornette has managed to keep himself relevant 30 years after the peak of his career.

I love Cornette. He's incredibly knowledgable and he shoots straight giving his honest, unfiltered opinion on everything. Every other person with a wrestling podcasts is careful of what they say about other people in the business and rarely share their true opinions because they are fishing for a job somewhere or hoping to go back to WWE. With Cornette, its different, he burnt every bridge that there is to burn long ago and simply doesn't give a fuck. I mean I'm listening right now "Warrior was a piece of shit and shouldn't have been there in the first place", on Shawn Michaels "fucking egomaniac", on HHH "don't give a fuck about him as a person", on Vince Russo "fucking moron", on AEW "what moron is approving this fucking shit" "Cody Jericho is the only match I give a shit about right now". Seriously who is that unfiltered and open in the wrestling business where every other podcast is working the fans or angling for job? Cancel Culture isn't going to affect Jim Cornette. Anybody can sound bad when taken out of context and misquoted by some random website. I've personally never heard him say anything sexist, or homophobic or racist, or remotely biggotted. I've seen claims of bigotry by people in the "wrestling media." Now I'm not going to say calling people "fucking morons" or "stupid cunts" is socially acceptable in mixed company. There's a big difference between failing to use socially acceptable language and actual bigotry.

Oh and IWRG ran a big show on Thursday that had Lucha Bros vs Los Traumas in one hell of a banger.

It was a 3 day weekend in Japan. Today is Culture Day, so most schools and businesses are closed. Not only the 5 big shows in Japan this weekend, CMLL ran a pretty big show on Friday, the Crash ran their Aniversario this weekend, MLW had their PPV on Saturday. That's 8 major must watch shows in 3 days.

The Crash Anniversary show is looking pretty great. Lucha Bros vs Munoz family, an apuestas match with a bunch of Tijuana locals, Los Traumas challenging for the tag titles, and a Solar vs Navarro maestro match.

See I'm not 100% sure I even agree with that. I mean hypothetically was he a better draw than Devitt or Styles? Was he a better draw than Jay White is now? Or was he just the only serviceable gaijin left when Okada and Naito got red hot? New Japan's attendance numbers didn't drop when he left, they stayed the same or increased. I'd argue that he was a draw on the US tours and ROH shows which drew a 3,000 to 6,000 but in Japan he was comparable to other guys who had that top gaijin spot in the past 8 years or so. I'd argue the attendance increases in recent years has to do more with Okada and Naito being promoted better and thus more over than Tanahashi and Nakamura were.