Johnny Sorrow

Not at all. I just rarely bitch about it when I don't enjoy a show.

This seems to be a unique perspective from what I saw around the net. So what's new? Lately people have been shitting all over the TV WHILE praising the fact that they keep putting out great TV matches. RAW the last two weeks has been really good. You just fast forward over all the recaps and publicity stuff and you have a fine two hour show again.

Yeah, RAW last night was pretty fucking good overall.

He's my favorite wrestler in the world right now. I absolutely love every facet of his character and everything he does in the ring. I remember going to ROH shows and thinking he was the most boring guy ever, then they teased him as a heel when Liger came in for two shots and he immediately was better. Then when they turned him heel for real he was suddenly great. Since he's been in WWE he's become my favorite guy. A perfect mixture of awesome worker and awesome entertainer. He can do ANYTHING silly or ridiculous and still come off as a super bad ass in the ring.

I had no idea Twin Peaks was cool with hipsters. I still watch it all the time, and whenever I see that final scene of the last episode I still get pissed.

To be fair almost every show "fails". Most TV shows are cancelled; few end on their own terms. Twilight Zone and Star Trek, both typically regarded as the finest Sci-Fi shows ever produced, were both cancelled, were they failures? Twin Peaks was cancelled in season 2 and yet is still regarded as one of the greatest shows of all-time. The Honeymooners was cancelled after one season! I'm not sure your argument about TV shows is valid. And to go back to the whole "a large part of success and greatness is making money", shows like Firefly, Trek, Twilight Zone, Honeymooners, etc all eventually did make money. The may not have been instant successes, but they did eventually succeed on some level. Look at Arrested Development, it's a perfect example of eventual success in the field of TV Shows. Now, there's no bigger fan of Twin Peaks than me, but it fucking failed...period. And pissed me off. How that left me hanging, made me so mad I literally threw stuff at my TV.

I don't know about how "great" it is, but I have a soft spot for the Mania 2 battle royal with the football players. And the battle royal from 84 at MSG that Inoki won is a pleasant childhood memory. Ron Shaw, motherfuckas.

I have to back up JDW here. Richter/ Kai was in no way a novelty match. It was super-pushed and was the payoff for the entire MTV Rock n' Wrestling angle that started all of this. Women's wrestling may have been a novelty before Cyndi Lauper, and it may have dropped back down to novelty after Mania and Richter getting fucked out of the belt, but for the time period between...it was pushed as being almost as important as Hogan/ T vs Piper/ Orndorff, considering it was kinda married to it.

I loved that "Unreal Story" special. I didn't care about the inaccuracies or telling of old bullshit stories. It was an entertaining two hours of TV.

"Says who?" Says the entire history of Pro Wrestling that makes it very clear that the entire point of booking wrestling is to make money.

Ha, I remember those tapes. I didn't buy them but I rented them thinking the same thing.

And that's off the top of his head, man.

Yeah. She pretty much was coming down to the ring, destroying chicks and looking bad ass, while getting over. Then the personal stuff happened, they quick turned her, set up a feud with the Bellas for her return and that was it. When she came back for the Rumble the place popped huge for her, so she made an impression. That's not a flop, that's just crazy real life shit stopping someone's career.

~ Slaughter/ Debeers was ok. The actor was The Commandant, can't find his name. And Debeers was never the manager of the Truth Commission. My rankings: 1. Jerry Lawler vs. Curt Hennig (7/16/88) 2. Wahoo McDaniel vs. Manny Fernandez (10/15/88) 3. Wahoo McDaniel vs. Manny Fernandez (7/6/88) 4. Manny Fernandez, Teijho Khan & Soldat Ustinov vs. Robert Gibson & The Top Guns (6/12/88) 5. Sgt. Slaughter vs. Col. DeBeers (Boot Camp Match) (12/13/88) 6. Mando Guerrero vs. Pat Tanaka (6/12/88) 7.Curt Hennig vs. Greg Gagne (6/12/88) 8.Cactus Jack Manson & The Rock n Roll RPM's vs. Chavo, Hector, & Mando Guerrero (12/13/88) Will, ripping off my lines.....Thanks Kris.

Cena yelling "Come on, Danial Bryan!" and not "Come on, Danial" or "Come on, Bryan!" when they've teamed, like tonight, is terrible, unless it's some inside rib deal.

It seemed to me that Sin Cara's biggest problem was being injury prone. As soon as he'd gain some momentum he'd get injured (or "wellnessed") and it'd halt everything. I thought Kharma was going to be awesome. They totally implied that the point was she was going to murderalize all the Barbie Dolls, but then what went down went down and that was basically it.

My Two Cents: As I was at Fiddler rehearsal from 2 pm-9:30 pm, and couldn't take part live. ~ DAMN, Diamond Doll painted on that dress. Yeah, Mondo/ Tanaka was something. Hey, given the text of the match it wasn't an Oklahoma roll it was an Oklahomo roll. Good match, LOVED the post match beatdown. ~ Khan's star did burn too bright Ustinov is like the only Russian who isn't jacked, and he actually looks like a Russian mobster on meth. I loved the ugly redheaded broad who was about to light her smoke but started cheering instead. Rice's dropkick was sweet. Man, Manny was bad ass here. Great six man, and Khan's facials rule. Post match brawl was insane. And Eric is dead fucking on about a match not always being "bell to bell". ~ Madusa and her cans in leather are A-OK. ClownMan in a Tux rules. Fuck taxes, go to Phil's wedding. ~THE HANDHELD MATCH. Lemme just start by saying that Eric and Kris declaring their love of black children is a needed sentiment in these divisive times. So, I'm not a huge fan of shaky handhelds, just one of my things. And that did annoy me a bit. But the only thing bad about this match was that it ended too soon. This was fucking great while it lasted. Two old vets who've run in the same circles for years just kicking the shit out of each other? Yes, please. And the shitting on the whole "stiff is bad" trend was good stuff. I had forgotten how great Eric is at mocking shit sarcastically. ~ "I'm Larry Nelson, bitch. And it's not gonna suck itself." Bikers? That was a Dr. Johnny Fever look-a-like convention there. The great punches discussion was good shit. Holy shit, Lawler/ Cool Curt was AWESOME. ~ I now think that a Hunter S. Thompson story about him following around Wahoo for a year in the Eighties would have been amazing. "Fear And Loathing In The Squared Circle". Christ, Eric says he wrote that paper, and you two no sell it? Oy vey. Kris, what happened was they let the hillbillies who were sitting in the cheap seats sit in the front now as they had to fill the seats. "Yeah, I killed it, Will. And I'd do it again, see?" Wahoo/ Manny KICKED ASS. And Jay Strongbow JR. got the gig because of his nose. Holy shit, don't do blow with that guy. ~ And it all comes around to Mondo's ponytail. THE CIRCLE OF LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! And we need to do group show pic of us as Man O' War. ~ I gotta go to bed. I'll check out the Slaughter match tomorrow and then rank.

Was it meant to be that though? I just took it as a random zombie kind of a deal, and nothing as tacky / obvious / on the nose as fallen foes. Unless I missed something on commentary? That's just how I interpreted it. Wrestling's more fun when I do that.

That whole "The hands of those he has sent to Hell" grasping at Taker as he rose was fucking cool as shit.

May have been when you were away for a bit. Huh, I always assumed Vince was the boss and creatively in control but that he had bookers working for him to lay out matches and even decide who wins and who loses. Now that I type that, I guess I'm thinking more of agents. I just always think about stuff like Watts being the boss of Mid South but he had bookers like Dundee and Ladd. Or Fritz being the boss of World Class, but having Hart or Mantell as bookers.

Will, Kris, and I were talking about this last night. Can you really call Vince a booker?

This first half of the disc was a bitch to rank. I thought every match was good to great, but so many shitty finishes in a row was rough. I normally don't give a shit about so called "bad finishes". It's Pro Wrestling, shit finishes are part of the deal, and I'll never understand where this whole "They used to have clean finishes" deal that people bitch about nowadays comes from. BUT, watching this many in a row...different story. 1. Adrian Adonis & Bob Orton Jr. vs. Midnight Rockers 2. Jerry Lawler & Greg Gagne vs. Riki Choshu & Mr. Saito 3.Original Midnight Express vs. Midnight Rockers 4. Jerry Lawler vs. Curt Hennig 5. Badd Company vs. Midnight Rockers 6. Wahoo McDaniel vs. Curt Hennig (12/27/87) 7. The Nasty Boys vs. Rock n Roll Express 8. Wahoo McDaniel vs. Curt Hennig (3/19/88) Honestly, I could change everything except my number one and two here in a blink.

Big Show didn't turn. He was a heel teaming with the faces to take on a mutual foe. And the only reason he didn't help Orton was because Orton tried to steal his thunder.

Only if the fucking Road Warriors run in and destroy all of them, leaving them in a pile as Iron Man is blaring.