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I watched the latest episode of Breaking Ground instead of the first hour of Raw and it was great. I don't care how much it's a work, it's much better than regular WWE programming which is pretty sad.

I might be high vote for Barry Windham and Akira Hokuto however I'm starting to like Super Astro and will have to watch more matches.

Perfect example is Dragon Gate claiming more people at their Osaka show then New Japan Power Struggle even though New Japan looked like it had more people there. WWE does it too. Just look how they were claiming 13,500 for NXT Brooklyn and they bumped it up to over 15k on the night of. I don't know how it works in Japan, but WWE at least keeps accurate attendance records for the official books and a bullshit number for kayfabe purposes. WM this year should be real interesting, since it was noted in the WON that the capacity at AT&T Stadium with the usual stage setup would be around 75,000 and they maybe could get to 90,000 legit without the elaborate staging (although Dave doubts they'd do that) but they still will claim 100,000. It's one thing to bump up a show that size 5k or so, but a 25k kayfabe bump seems too exaggerated for them to seriously try to push. They showed the Mayor of Dallas in the Mania Pre Sale Show on Raw saying that they wanted to break the attendance record and that number for Cowboys Stadium is 108,713 from the 2010 NBA All Star game. So they might have to bump the figure by 30 to 35k instead of 25k in order to top it.

Perfect example is Dragon Gate claiming more people at their Osaka show then New Japan Power Struggle even though New Japan looked like it had more people there. WWE does it too. Just look how they were claiming 13,500 for NXT Brooklyn and they bumped it up to over 15k on the night of.

CMLL is on Claro Sports on Fridays on the Claro Sports website live but sometimes they region block viewers outside of Mexico. They also live stream their Monday shows from Puebla on their YouTube channel and archive them for people to watch later. They did it for the Anniversary show which was bad cause it was supposed to be an iPPV and they used a unlisted YouTube live stream which got out to a lot of people. https://m.youtube.com/user/VideosOficialesCMLL With AAA, Cubsfan uploads the matches but sometimes I wait for AAA to upload them on their YouTube channel for HD Quality but that can take months sometimes.

I found the story about Oro very interesting. I started to look him up and La Sombra's gear pre losing his mask looked similar to Oro and Los Metalicos. They don't appear to be related but was Oro and his family a big influence on Sombra?

I watched it last night. Seemingly no editing (outside of the normal editing that goes into any of these shows). Snuka was mentioned over and over. I suppose they could have removed the more flowery stuff about him, if there was anything, but we have no way of knowing that. Come to think of it, Snuka was mentioned more than Anvil. You'd think Anvil was the one in trouble with the law. I watched it too and I was surprised by how much he was talked about but it felt like Nattie was dominating the conversation for the most part. Wanted to her more from Charlotte and Tamina especially with Tamina cause she had kids before she got into WWE.

Really good show and I didn't expect you guys to bring up the Coates book but I thank you guys cause it reminds me that I have to read that book. I'm looking forward to the Viro Small and Bearcat Wright research cause those are guys that I barely know and kinda feel embarrassed that I don't know much about those two.

Well I was wrong. http://squaredcirclesirens.com/wwe-divas-starring-on-wwe-network-shows-next-week/

Triple H harps on now that he does weight training like an athlete instead of a bodybuilder. The language he uses when he's talking about looking for new talent is athlete and being an athlete. It seems like his vision of new talent is that they have to be similar to today's modern athlete.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Wrestling over time has looked at what people want in their male pop culture sex symbols and have applied it to the top of the card.

It makes him look like he has fleas. I get it that his "thing" is to be grungy, but does he really have to look so damn dirty too? Then again, his move is called Dirty Deeds. Why wouldn't it? Tamina was still on Raw - and Total Divas - weeks after the Snuka controversy (she was even identified as "Tamina Snuka" on the latter), so I don't see that affecting Table for 3. Total Divas was edited before the Snuka indictment and Naomi/Jimmy Uso are off the show next season. So most likely we won't see her on there in a highlighted role in the future unless Snuka is totally clear. Plus the Table for 3 was mostly going to be about them being the daughters of these "WWE Legends".

I'm guessing the Table for 3 with Tamina, Charlotte and Natayla will never see the light of day.

Main Event hasn't been bad lately. It's been mostly Kevin Owens and a Team BAD showcase show.

I'm watched a bunch of Zenjo matches from the 80's and she stuck out to me the most because she came across as the best all around heel in terms of being in the ring and playing a character. Dump is the best character heel but didn't bring the goods like Devil did. I've seen OJ say that her best stuff is in the 90's but I haven't seen her JWP stuff yet.

That's a damn shame if they ripped it from YouTube. I'll check it out later cause the CWF 70's footage they used in the Dusty/Flair looks really good when its remastered for their documentary stuff.

Has anyone seen the Flair vs Steamboat Rivalries shows yet? Do they use the 70's film?

I was one of those people that was that felt sympathy for Parv about the "greatest" vs "favorite" argument but for him to say that he is not voting other workers like Lucha and Joshi is pretty bad. EDIT: I missed the post where Parv wasn't writing off other styles and Parv brought it up to me. My fault entirely and I apologize to Parv for that. This project has not gone to waste for myself personally and I wasn't even planning on submitting a ballot because of my big blind spots. I said in "Everyone Submit A Ballot" Thread that there won't be a lot of WOS guys or Memphis guys on my ballot and Will joked that I shouldn't submit one. I said that because I haven't gotten to them but you what I have gotten to in the last 12 months: Lucha and Joshi. I have myself constantly lurking through boards trying to find recommended Lucha matches, looking at old Toreo results, looking at Luchablog through 90's CMLL TV results, reading multiple times Ohtani's Jacket's thoughts and stories on 80's AJW and Loss' Joshi thread. And the Genesis of it started partly because of this project. I haven't participated in the threads cause 1) My job takes up a lot of my time and 2) I'm still learning about these wrestlers from different places. So for the people here running the board, the project wasn't to waste as I've watched new wrestling cause of this. Take it for what it's worth and if you don't value my thoughts, I'm not gonna care cause I'm submitting a ballot that has to be counted.

In the last one, he didn't. Lesnar F5 and pinned Chono in their three way at the Dome. Interesting cause I listened to Cabanas interview Rocky Romero from years ago and he claims that there were 8K in attendance at the Dome when he debuted and won as Black Tiger IV. That is the same show Brock won the title and New Japan claimed 38,000 at the Dome for that show. The real no number has to be somewhere in the middle but that's how bad New Japan was during the time period.

Triple H's title run from 2002 to 2004 was obvious to me but also Kaz Fujita and Brock Lesnar's IWGP title reigns were to me were the worst. Just bad booking and bad performances during those Simon Inoki years. I agree with C.S. earlier that JBL's title reign was great when you looked back on it but it felt brutal through real time cause the fans wanted Eddie to be champ and JBL got elevated out of nowhere.

That's interesting. I did some quick searching cause I'm at work right now and found a thread that Bix started the Kayfabe Memories board. http://www.infinitecore.ca/superstar/index.php?a=prnt&code=02&f=37&t=60249&page=0 So he might know better. EDIT: Found this thread too with Bix in it. Looks like I'm going through a rabbit hole today. http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum1/12632.html

I'm not an expert on 70's wrestling but I'm gonna assume this might have been shown on WNJU which used to be a UHF station that originated from Linden. It might be that station cause remember talking to my dad about 70's wrestling and asking how did he see Championship Wrestling from Florida along with WWF when he lived in Newark as a kid. And then after Piper's death, I saw this: Once you hit the 35 second mark, you will see the call letters for WNJU and that was back in 83. And reading on the WNJU wiki page, WWF did have TV on the station in English despite the station having heavy spanish programming.

I was expecting something foolish like Sin Mistico but Mistic 2.0 exceeded it.

Well, you've sold me on me turning in a ballot. However, it's gonna be without WOS and not a lot of Memphis guys.

Interesting cause I have not seen the Philly Sasha/Charlotte match. Here is the 4 way from Philly.