Boondocks Kernoodle Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 It just means that they have aired more episodes than Gunsmoke, Bonanza, M*A*S*H, Cheers or any other long running comedy/drama, with which Raw is ostensibly in the same category. At least it's better than that "Action/Adventure" crap from early '99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 "Weekly" is the key word there. There are plenty of soap operas which ran for decades and knock Raw's dick in the dirt when it comes to longevity and productivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 It just seems like another way for Vince & Co. to scream "we're not a wrestling show, we're an entertainment show!" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 It's uncanny how many of Vince's verbal mannerisms have transferred to his talent without his having to direct it. Wrestlers seem to throw in an unusual number of mentions of "quite frankly" compared to the rest of the populace, and just about everybody a few years ago would speak about "this very ring". One of the examples that really jumped out to me of subliminal adoption was actually one of JR's terms. Lita was on Off The Record and described something as "hellacious". I know that etymologically it was college slang from the 30s, but I'd never heard anyone other than JR use the word. (Which really ground my gears anyway: What's wrong with "hellish"?) Quote Black wrestlers are always the best "pure athletes" it seems. Well, if you choose to ignore that the first two to be given that label by JR were Shawn Michaels and Billy Gunn, I suppose so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollinger. Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 It's "natural athletes", not pure. Pure refers to something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Just remembered one while watching Raw: Overly verbose references to standard gimmick matches, like "5 on 5 tag team elimination match" or "2 on 1 handicap match," when the less detailed versions used to be the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I haven't noticed it in years, but they used to always say "kisser" instead of "mouth", and also use the word "official" instead of "referee". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I always thought "kisser" was a southern thing. But I'm from Europe so what do I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 You would think that, but Vince McMahon, who hates Southern things, and Gorilla Monsoon would say it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Now it's skull. No one is hit in the head, they're hit in the skull. Randy Orton punts people in the skull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 In some ladder match a few years ago, someone got hit with the ladder and JR said, "That ladder's not made out of chocolate." I swear I heard him make that call a couple of other times. Also, it's always the STEEL steps outside the ring. They're always STEEL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Not to mention that the weight of the ring steps increases more than Andre's weight in a Hogan retelling of WM3. Bonus points when they mention how heavy the STEEEEEL ring steps are right after they're shown bouncing like nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I love this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Coffey said: Now it's skull. No one is hit in the head, they're hit in the skull. Randy Orton punts people in the skull. Unless they get hit in the back. Excuse me...the spine. On one hand this may seem silly, but on the other...remember how Gordon Solie used to say the figure-four leglock affected 13 points in both legs? Imagine having to break that down because you have to reference the individual bones within each leg instead of just the legs themselves? You could do an awesome Discovery Channel special on shit like that. On the other other hand, we could be inflicted with a barrage of "there is nothing humerus about [insert arm-based submission here]" puns, but I can't think of too many holds that target the upper arm specifically, so we might be spared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cobra Commander Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Did a History of WWE search and found Cousin Junior lasted from August 1985 to February 1986, no idea if he's the longest lasting guy to be billed as Junior in the WWF in the VKM era. Although I guess there's a damn good shot that Cousin Junior was gone in December 1985, as Cousin Luke debuted around that time and any HistoryofWWE results for Junior after Luke's debut were really Cousin Luke matches. The whole "no two guys with the same first name" thing has been covered, right? Because i'm pretty damned sure that the WWF would have never had Nature Boy Ric Flair and Nature Boy Buddy Landel at the same time (like the NWA did in 1990). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Cobra Commander said: The whole "no two guys with the same first name" thing has been covered, right? Because i'm pretty damned sure that the WWF would have never had Nature Boy Ric Flair and Nature Boy Buddy Landel at the same time (like the NWA did in 1990). WWE did have two Chris at the same time, and apparently it was complex enough to fuck the mind of the "greatest announcer ever" JR to the point he wouldn't know who was Benoit and who was Jericho. Funny how Schiavone never seemed that troubled about that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I was watching the 2008 Smackdown NWO Elimination Chamber the other day and Cole kept calling the "steel" area outside the ring but inside the chamber "The unforgiving concrete!" he caught himself once and turned it into "Concrete-like....ground," but then did it again at least two times after that. It was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 El-P said: Cobra Commander said: The whole "no two guys with the same first name" thing has been covered, right? Because i'm pretty damned sure that the WWF would have never had Nature Boy Ric Flair and Nature Boy Buddy Landel at the same time (like the NWA did in 1990). WWE did have two Chris at the same time, and apparently it was complex enough to fuck the mind of the "greatest announcer ever" JR to the point he wouldn't know who was Benoit and who was Jericho. Funny how Schiavone never seemed that troubled about that fact. Well JR did have trouble keeping the Dudleys straight too... Also I don't know if this is necessarily a quirk or just lazy writers, but WWE sure does love having heels do the over-the-top-fake-laughing spot. Most recently CM Punk when they played Austin's music and did the whole "tease someone making an appearance" gag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Cobra Commander said: The whole "no two guys with the same first name" thing has been covered, right? Because i'm pretty damned sure that the WWF would have never had Nature Boy Ric Flair and Nature Boy Buddy Landel at the same time (like the NWA did in 1990).You have to admit that having two Nature Boys was kind of strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 They seemed to be trying to do a Nature Boy feud in 1986 but Budro messed that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 sek69 said: They seemed to be trying to do a Nature Boy feud in 1986 but Budro messed that up.Oh I know, but it's still odd. It's better that it didn't happen anyway as Landell would have looked 3rd rate by the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Cobra Commander said: The whole "no two guys with the same first name" thing has been covered, right? Because i'm pretty damned sure that the WWF would have never had Nature Boy Ric Flair and Nature Boy Buddy Landel at the same time (like the NWA did in 1990). I think this comes from their attempt to not be a wrestling show anymore, but more "episodic television" as they like to call it. How many shows have two characters with the same first name? Oh, besides Pete and Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 They don't do this anymore, but up until the late 80s (maybe even early 90s) if a match ended any way but via pinfall the announcers would not know what the result was until we got the "official word" from the ring announcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 sek69 said: They don't do this anymore, but up until the late 80s (maybe even early 90s) if a match ended any way but via pinfall the announcers would not know what the result was until we got the "official word" from the ring announcer. Neither would the wrestlers. Most heels would seem to think that a title would change hands on a count out or dq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Someone else on another board pointed out how the fans were totally supportive of Joey Styles' 'shoot' on Raw in 2006 until he addressed them as 'you fans.' He pointed out how the phrase 'you people' is automatically going to draw heel heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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