Randy Savage Dead

[Strummer]

So what's the deal with WM 5? Dave had said in the past that the show "didn't lose money" but in the Savage obit he says it was the highest gate for a wrestling show ever at that time (and wouldn't be broken till 2000)

 

edit: ok it was most PPV buys and not live gate but Dave has always said the show wasn't that big in the past. Did Vince have to pay Trump a ton to hold the show?

[sek69]

The funny thing is that they had to have done business with Savage at some point since they wanted to do a movie about Gorgeous George and he owns all the rights.

[Strummer]

-- Can't read it because you have to be a subscriber to the magazine, but apparently in the new issue of TIME there is an article on Macho Man written by Vince McMahon. The first few paragraphs, which are free, appear to be pretty flattering. Vince calls him one of the building blocks of the World Wrestling Federation and a guy who knew how to be a star.

[Dooley]

Did Vince have to pay Trump a ton to hold the show?

I would think it would have been the opposite. Trump would have had to have given Vince a sweet deal to lose out on a stadium gate.

[Strummer]

true

 

just wondering how the show ended up just breaking even when it did all those buys

[Sean Liska]

So what's the deal with WM 5? Dave had said in the past that the show "didn't lose money" but in the Savage obit he says it was the highest gate for a wrestling show ever at that time (and wouldn't be broken till 2000)

 

edit: ok it was most PPV buys and not live gate but Dave has always said the show wasn't that big in the past. Did Vince have to pay Trump a ton to hold the show?

Are you sure you're thinking of the right show? It did a huge gate and buyrate, and I've never heard of anything negative financially about it.

[jdw]

just wondering how the show ended up just breaking even when it did all those buys

I've never heard that it "just broke even". The story at the time and for a while after was that it was the most profitable ever due to a record live gate and a record buyrate. Vince wouldn't have run the joint two years in a row if the first one didn't make a shitload. In turn, the second one was said to have made even more.

 

John

[flyonthewall2983]

I don't think Trump would associate with someone who didn't make him money, or simply "broke even", let alone participate in a stupid angle showing off how rich him and Vince are.

[Strummer]

when Dave was talking about the History of Mania DVD on WOL he said that 4 and 5 "well, didn't lose money". That's where I got it from

[flyonthewall2983]

[ohtani's jacket]

The Simmon's interview links to this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TnSPQGHz7A

 

Forgot how awesome that was, especially the flick of the nose.

 

The botch is amusing as well --

[Marty]

http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/washing...n-randy-savage/

 

[Bix]

"There was no sound system, no bell to ring. In honor of the Macho Man, Puglia held marginally observed moments of silence, repeating 'ding' into the microphone."

[rovert]

Cue dramatic voice: "on the next Slammin Stan":

 

"There was no sound system, no bell to ring. In honor of the Macho Man, Puglia held marginally observed moments of silence, repeating 'ding' into the microphone."

The promoter's Facebook is really sad with him asking people to pray for him.

[Jingus]

Most of the story is your typical bottom-level indy scum shenanigans, outrageous and illegal and etcetera. But the one detail that grabbed me was the "ten bell salute". Just the idea of some guy literally speaking the word "ding" into a microphone ten times in a row... I've worked for several shitty fucking almost-backyard outlaw indy companies in my day, but even the people running those shows weren't that insane.

[Al]

If they wanted to do an ICW tribute show instead they should've just said so.

[Kostka]

Did Savage and Terry Funk ever have a match together?

[Guest Paul Kersey]

In regards to Wrestlemanias 4&5, I thought the recent documentary claimed Trump approached Vince about doing WM4 in Atlantic City with the weekend of convention-like events around it, leading to both WM5 and to the modern WrestleMania weekend.

[Ricky Jackson]

So, has anybody heard anything about Randy going in the WWE HOF this year, or is it still a no go?

[kjh]

Not going to happen. With Edge, The Four Horsemen, Mike Tyson, Mil Mascaras, Yokozuna and Ron Simmons already confirmed, there probably will be only one more inductee this year and if it was Savage we would know about it already. Hearing Andrew Goldstein recall getting Vince's death stare when he suggested him for the HOF in 2006, not sure it's going to happen anytime soon.

[Cox]

Plus, WWE only likes to induct one dead person per year, and if they're inducting Yoko, that leaves no room for Savage.

[khawk20]

if they're inducting Yoko, that leaves no room for Savage.

so many jokes...so little time...

[Marty]

Plus, WWE only likes to induct one dead person per year, and if they're inducting Yoko, that leaves no room for Savage.

1995: Antonino Rocca & The Grand Wizard (2)

2004: Big John Studd & Junkyard Dog (2)

2007: "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig & The Sheik (2)

2008: "High Chief" Peter Maivia, Eddie Graham & Gordon Solie (3!)

2009: The Von Erichs (5 of them)

2010: Gorgeous George & Stu Hart (2)

 

Still room for Savage this year, given that history, but I agree that he won't likely go in this year for some of the reasons already given.

[El-P]

if they're inducting Yoko, that leaves no room for Savage.

so many jokes...so little time...

 

Surprised no one did it earlier.

[kjh]

Plus, WWE only likes to induct one dead person per year, and if they're inducting Yoko, that leaves no room for Savage.

1995: Antonino Rocca & The Grand Wizard (2)

2004: Big John Studd & Junkyard Dog (2)

2007: "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig & The Sheik (2)

2008: "High Chief" Peter Maivia, Eddie Graham & Gordon Solie (3!)

2009: The Von Erichs (5 of them)

2010: Gorgeous George & Stu Hart (2)

 

Still room for Savage this year, given that history, but I agree that he won't likely go in this year for some of the reasons already given.

The rule only applies to modern day premature deaths.