Sean Liska Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Meltzer said that she was about to return to beat a Bella for the title in April, but they changed it because he reported it. So is this all his fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Meltzer said that she was about to return to beat a Bella for the title in April, but they changed it because he reported it. So is this all his fault? Dave and Bryan seem to be defensive when people joke about the "plans change" meme, but this seems like a case where it did actually happen. The Bellas mocked Kharma when she left after announcing her pregnancy, and the whole deal with one of them winning the title when their deal was ending that week was to set up her return to get her revenge and squash them. It got reported, WWE had one of their "word got out, we have to change this" spasms, and we got Layla coming out to zero reaction instead. They never seemed to be able to find a way to write her back in, so I guess indirectly it's because of Meltzer. Wouldn't say it's his fault though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 and we got Layla coming out to zero reaction instead. Bella's did an interview a few months back actually saying even when they knew it was Layla they still half exspected Kharma to come out instead last minute as a surprise rib on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 No one better to ask than you guys, so I'll ask here: does a match between Tito Santana Vs. Rick Rude exist where neither man is a jobber? I would love to see a babyface Tito Vs. heel Rude match where they were given some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 . Tito Santana vs. Rick Rude (Boston Garden – 2/11/89) 1. Tito Santana vs. Rick Rude (Prime Time Wrestling – 10/25/88) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The Boston match went 16:44. Not off the charts, but it's a good solid match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thanks so much, shoe, now I just need to track them down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I remember being disappointed by the Boston Garden match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Following the Bella Twins on Twitter and I've noticed that Nikki got huge implants recently while Brie didn't. That's interesting to me considering their twins but not identical anymore by about a couple of cupsizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Following the Bella Twins on Twitter and I've noticed that Nikki got huge implants recently while Brie didn't. That's interesting to me considering their twins but not identical anymore by about a couple of cupsizes. Give it a couple weeks & we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if they both get implants & then go back to WWE. Even in their Maxim magazine interview this month they said they can't wait to go back to WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 But her pregnancy was announced on WWE and then the outcome of it was on TMZ & everywhere else. Even before all this happened we spoke about how firey/passionate she is given what happened to her in TNA. Now imagine some prick Wrestling fan saying something cruel to her at a show about her pregnancy. Law of the street says the guy should get his ass handed to him but this isn't the street it is a Public Company run by a family with political aspirations. Even if she turns in the other direction when harassed those sorts of comments would really hurt anyone's feelings let alone someone of a vulnerable disposition. Really given her history of mental health problems, WWE shouldn't have put added pressure on her by publicly announcing her pregnancy. On paper they treated her well otherwise, but you don't know what went on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slickster Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Amusingly, WWE let the 'ECW' trademark for pro wrestling events expire so now a shell company of the Urban Wrestling Federation owns it. To be clear, this means that (for the time being) this new shell company could in theory promote live events using the ECW brand name. This doesn't have any bearing on ECW IP or ECW's video library, which are still owned by WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The other entity doesn't "own" anything. They applied for a registration, which only got assigned to an examining attorney at the USPTO last Tuesday. It's extremely early in the process, not anywhere close to registration yet. The WWE is sitting on no less than seven registrations of ECW marks. They let one lapse. Three of the remaining ones are in Class 41 like the new one. They also have a fresh 2009 registration of Extreme Championship Wrestling in Class 41, and an application of it late in the process (recently published for opposition... and it won't be opposed) in Class 28 for toys. My general thought on this Urban Wrestling Federation yahoo is: Good fucking luck in getting that registered! The only thing that this likely does is wake up the WWE to firm up registrations to cover their continuing use of the mark. And of course swat this fucker down. Unless the WWE is much dumber about their IP rights than I think... but that historically hasn't been the case. Please don't tell me that one of the major Sheets/Newzies ran mindlessly with this while not knowing a fucking thing about trademarks? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I don't know a fucking thing about trademarks. Explain these different classes to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/notices/international.jsp CLASS 41 Education; providing of training; entertainment; sporting and cultural activities. Explanatory Note Class 41 covers mainly services rendered by persons or institutions in the development of the mental faculties of persons or animals, as well as services intended to entertain or to engage the attention. This Class includes, in particular: – services consisting of all forms of education of persons or training of animals; – services having the basic aim of the entertainment, amusement or recreation of people; – presentation of works of visual art or literature to the public for cultural or educational purposes. Those are services, which pro wrestling shows would fall under. Video tapes, toys and t-shirts fall are "goods" and fall under various other classes. A key to trademark law is the likelihood of confusion. You can not get a registration that's likely to be confused with an existing one. So filing for "ECW" in the same class as one where one or more already exist, for similar goods or services, is going to get bounced. Filing for a mark where there's a strong one that's in a different class is likely to get bounced as well. Trying to file for iPod in some corner of the list of goods & services for a product that's totally unrelated to Apple's various iPod marks is... going to run into some problems. iPod is such a strong mark in the public that the confusion is that people will think this other product is somehow related, or endorsed by Apple, etc. Some folks try to be cute, but if you go up against something strong enough, you're going to get slapped. In this case, the WWE has ECW / Extreme Championship Wrestling registrations. A pretty fair number of them. They continue to use the mark: ECW episodes and PPV are on their web and 24/7 (or whatever it's called now). They sell video tapes. Etc. They may not put on actually ECW wrestling events, but they use the mark a great deal for wrestling related goods and services. Really shouldn't be that hard to smack own. In fact, it's quite likely that the Examining Attorney at the USPTO will smack it down with an Office Action, and this dumb fuck won't be able to respond to it in a satisfactory way... and it will die that way. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 So a local promotion down here in South Texas decided to have a 14 hour pro wrestling event earlier today.... I was there for 5 hours. Out of kindness, I'll just say I really, really, really regret going for those hours and missing the HBO boxing PPV and the Strikeforce event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Really given her history of mental health problems, WWE shouldn't have put added pressure on her by publicly announcing her pregnancy. WWE made someone who probably won't make it past reality TV screening into a reality TV star it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Are You Serious just declared war on us the Internet Wrestling Community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Wow, but that's the stupidest show ever The puppet did have a sweet Dave Taylor t-shirt however, i'll give them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I thought that show was actually pretty funny and well produced until the IWC stuff started. Even then, parts of it made me laugh. That he has a Jushin Liger poster in the back with the others is pretty surprising. WWE produces this? I've never heard of it before. But hip hop was no longer big in the early 90s. O ... k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The AYS had me rolling. The smart mark stuff might anger many but it destroyed me especially the Dave Taylor shirt. "Fyre with a Y" And a "Disorderlies" reference! Loss: the show is pretty hit or miss but can be hilarious when everything clicks. Brian and Josh are pretty witty guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Following the Bella Twins on Twitter and I've noticed that Nikki got huge implants recently while Brie didn't. That's interesting to me considering their twins but not identical anymore by about a couple of cupsizes.Give it a couple weeks & we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if they both get implants & then go back to WWE. Even in their Maxim magazine interview this month they said they can't wait to go back to WWE. Why were they let go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 They left on their own. Needed a break from the travel/schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 They are wanting to get into acting and more modeling like Maryse and soon to be Kelly Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Oh man, the Drew Mcintyre = Underrated sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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