Holy Grails

[Matt D]

It's always a bit of the art of the possible with this stuff. Like, for instance, if they have one random match on a 1983 Charlotte show, then they might have others (with it most likely that they have the ones around the Piper vs Valentine show):

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - January 1, 1983
Sweet Brown Sugar defeated Dory Funk Jr.
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Bob Orton Jr.
NWA Tag Team Champions Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle defeated Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood
NWA World Champion Ric Flair defeated Roddy Piper

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - January 30, 1983

Mid-Atlantic TV Champion Mike Rotundo won an 18-man battle royal
Dick Slater defeated Jerry Brisco via disqualification
Jimmy Valiant defeated the One Man Gang
Roddy Piper & Dusty Rhodes defeated Paul Jones & Red Dog Lane
Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr. defeated Jack Brisco
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine vs. ?
Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood fought NWA Tag Team Champions Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle to a double disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - March 5, 1983

Masa Fuchi defeated Bill White
Sweet Brown Sugar defeated the Ninja
Mike George defeated Ricky Harris
Jim Nelson defeated NWA Tag Team Champion Sgt. Slaughter via disqualification
Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr. defeated Jack Brisco
Ricky Steamboat, Jay Youngblood, & Jimmy Valiant defeated NWA US Champion Greg Valentine, Terry Funk, & Sir Oliver Humperdink

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - March 26, 1983

Mike Davis defeated Ken Timbs
Bill White fought Abe Jacobs to a draw
Wayne Jones defeated Ben Alexander
Mid-Atlantic TV Champion Dick Slater vs. Jos LeDuc
Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr. & Paul Jones
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine, Sgt. Slaughter, & Don Kernodle vs. Jim Nelson, NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - April 8, 1983

Mike Rotundo defeated Masa Fuchi
Red Dog Lane defeated Sweet Sugar Brown
Jos LeDuc defeated Gene Anderson
Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated Jake Roberts & the Great Kabuki
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine fought Roddy Piper to a draw
Andre the Giant, Jimmy Valiant, & Bugsy McGraw defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion Dick Slater, the One Man Gang, & Sir Oliver Humperdink
Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood in a non-title steel cage match

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - April 24, 1983

Ricky Harris defeated Keith Larsen
Johnny Weaver defeated Masa Fuchi
The Magic Dragon defeated Jim Nelson
Jake Roberts defeated Sweet Brown Sugar
Jimmy Valiant defeated the Great Kabuki
NWA US Champion Roddy Piper defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion Dick Slater
Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood via disqualification
NWA World Champion Ric Flair defeated Greg Valentine via disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - May 15, 1983

Kelly Kiniski & the One Man Gang defeated Rick McCord & Vinnie Valentino
Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr. defeated Mike Rotundo
Jimmy Valiant, Rufus R. Jones, & Bugsy McGraw defeated the Great Kabuki, Gary Hart, & the Magic Dragon
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion Jos LeDuc
Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood and Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle in a round robin tournament; the Briscos defeated Steamboat & Youngblood via disqualification in the final match

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - May 28, 1983 (4,114)

Gene Anderson & Rene Goulet defeated Mike Davis & Keith Larsen
Vinnie Valentino defeated Masa Fuchi
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Bill White
Wahoo McDaniel defeated the Magic Dragon
Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki defeated Jimmy Valiant via count-out
NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamobat & Jay Youngblood defeated Jack & Jerry Brisco
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated NWA World Champion Ric Flair via disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - June 25, 1983

Rick McCord defeated Masa Fuchi
Mike Rotundo defeated Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Champion Kelly Kiniski
Jos LeDuc defeated Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Champion the One Man Gang
Jake Roberts defeated Bob Orton Jr.
Rufus R. Jones defeated the Magic Dragon
Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki defeated Jimmy Valiant
Ric Flair & Roddy Piper defeated NWA US Champion Greg Valentine & Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr.
NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - July 9, 1983 (This is the one I think we have the Piper match from)

Keith Larsen & Rick McCord defeated Gene Anderson & Bill Howard
Assassin #1 defeated John Bonello
Jake Roberts defeated Mike Davis
Dick Slater defeated Jos LeDuc
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Roddy Piper via disqualification
NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood
Ric Flair defeated NWA World Champion Harley Race via disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - July 23, 1983

Rene Goulet defeated John Bonello
Vinnie Valentino defeated Golden Boy Grey
Dick Slater & Jake Roberts defeated Johnny Weaver & Brett Hart
Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Dory Funk Jr. defeated Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Champion Rufus R Jones
Jimmy Valiant & Bob Orton Jr. defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki & Gary Hart in a steel cage match
Ric Flair defeated NWA World Champion Harley Race via disqualification; Sandy Scott was the guest referee

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - August 6, 1983

Assassin #1 defeated Golden Boy Grey
Gene Anderson defeated Vinnie Valentino
The One Man Gang & Kelly Kiniski defeated Johnny Weaver & Mike Davis
Bob Orton Jr., Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Rufus R. Jones, & Bugsy McGraw defeated Dory Funk Jr., Paul Jones, & Jake Roberts
Wahoo McDaniel defeated Dick Slater via count-out
Ric Flair & Ricky Steamboat defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco via disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - September 17, 1983

Brett Hart defeated Golden Boy Grey
Scott McGhee defeated Kelly Kiniski
The Assassins defeated Ric McCord & Keith Larsen
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Johnny Weaver
Charlie Brown defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Mark Youngblood
Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - October 2, 1983
Vinnie Valentino defeated Tom Lintz
Scott McGhee defeated Golden Boy Grey
Mark Youngblood defeated the Magic Dragon
Gene Anderson defeated Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Rufus R. Jones
Baron Von Raschke defeated Charlie Brown
Bob Orton Jr. & Dick Slater defeated Ric Flair & Wahoo McDaniel via disqualification

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - October 23, 1983

Brickhouse Brown defeated Gary Royal
Scott McGhee defeated the Ninja
Angelo Mosca defeated Gene Anderson
Dory Funk Jr. defeated Mark Youngblood
Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Champion Rufus R. Jones & Bugsy McGraw defeated the Assassins
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Roddy Piper
NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco defeated Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood
Ric Flair & Wahoo McDaniel fought Bob Orton Jr. & Dick Slater to a no contest in a No DQ match

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - October 30, 1983

Ric Flair defeated Bob Orton Jr

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - November 17, 1983

Brett Hart defeated Golden Boy Grey
Kelly Kiniski defeated Scott McGhee
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Johnny Weaver
The Assassins defeated Keith Larsen & Rick McCord
Jimmy Valiant defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki after the 15-minute mark
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Mark Youngblood (sub. for Roddy Piper)
Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Jack & Jerry Brisco in a non-title No DQ match

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - November 19, 1983

Brett Hart defeated Jerry Gray
Kelly Kiniski defeated Scott McGhee
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Johnny Weaver
The Assassins defeated Keith Larson & Rick McCord
Charlie Brown defeated Mid-Atlantic TV Champion the Great Kabuki
NWA US Champion Greg Valentine defeated Mark Youngblood (sub. for Roddy Piper)
Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Jack Brisco & Jerry Brisco in a No DQ match

 

JCP @ Charlotte, NC - Coliseum - December 25, 1983

John Bonello defeated Tony Russo
Vinnie Valentino defeated Gene Anderson
Wahoo McDaniel defeated Barry Orton
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Mark Youngblood
Angelo Mosca defeated Don Kernodle
The Assassins defeated Dory Funk Jr. & Rufus R. Jones via disqualification
Jimmy Valiant defeated the Great Kabuki
Roddy Piper defeated Greg Valentine in a dog collar match
NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood defeated Jack & Jerry Brisco in a steel cage match; Youngblood sustained a broken foot during the match

 

Lots of good stuff in there. I feel like the cards are more overall interesting before fall but there's at least one match on every card I'd like to see.

[iamthedoctor]

Id like to see the Snake Pit where Jake DDT's Hogan, ive seen a clip of their match from Providence but am hoping WWE has the footage but Im not sure as they mentioned it on the Jake DVD but didn't show it.

[Loss]

We should compile a list of all the JCP house show matches that ever aired clipped on television. If they have full versions of all or even some of them, yowza!

[CYF]

I probably just didn't look hard enough, but is the Bull winning the big red belt match anywhere

 

EDIT: Well I see it was taped since lorefice did a review of it http://www.quebrada.net/reviews/ajw19900104.html but it was clipped.

[iamthedoctor]

We should compile a list of all the JCP house show matches that ever aired clipped on television. If they have full versions of all or even some of them, yowza!

 

That sounds like a awesome idea. Would you stretch it to include WCW like the Simmons/Vader title change?

[fxnj]

I probably just didn't look hard enough, but is the Bull winning the big red belt match anywhere

 

EDIT: Well I see it was taped since lorefice did a review of it http://www.quebrada.net/reviews/ajw19900104.html but it was clipped.

A Youtube video of the match is literally the first result that shows up on Google. Really good match to get Bull over, by the way. *1/2 is bullshit.

[BBscout]

Anything new turn up lately...or anything worth adding to the list on the first page

[zep81]

Has this recently uploaded Lawler/Dundee match turned up before;

 

[Jetlag]

It did not make the 80s Memphis set. It may have been on one of 70s TV guys DVD sets. It is a fucking awesome match though.

[peachchaos]

https://70s-tv.com/memphis-wrestling-umatic-masters-series-volume-7/

It's been out there for a few years. Also on Goodhelmet's Lawler set.

[paul sosnowski]

Bob Backlund vs Adrian Adonis 2/15/82 Texas Death Match

Pedro Morales vs Greg Valentine for the IC Title, Brass Knuckles Alley Fight, same show

[Ricky Jackson]

38 minutes ago, paul sosnowski said:

Bob Backlund vs Adrian Adonis 2/15/82 Texas Death Match

Pedro Morales vs Greg Valentine for the IC Title, Brass Knuckles Alley Fight, same show

Hell yeah. That MSG show has been one of my ultimate Holy Grails for years. You never know these days...

[ChuckScumm]

There was a indy show in the early 2000s that had Bastion Booger vs Leon Spinks that I hope video surfaces someday.

[Ricky Jackson]

Please let that exist 

[ChuckScumm]

Hopefully this finds its way released someday. Doink the Clown vs California Surf Girls might be the sleeper hit of the show.

[JRH]

Wonder if the Golga on that show is John Tenta. Tenta was still alive (and was still healthy) at the time so it's a possibility

[ChuckScumm]

1 hour ago, JRH said:

Wonder if the Golga on that show is John Tenta. Tenta was still alive (and was still healthy) at the time so it's a possibility

For some reason, I highly doubt it.

[EricR]

I would have expected Golga to be picked up by deep cut indy fat guys the same way Doink was for the smaller set, but it never really did. Seemed like fat guy in brown mask wearing a South Park shirt could have still been getting good reactions in mid 2000s Arkansas. 

[khawk20]

I'm not looking back in the thread and I may have posted about this previously in this thread, but I became aware of the existence of AWA guys wrestling a paid show at a Cereal convention circa 1988-89. The wrestlers had names given to them of cereal mascots of the day (Greg Gagne introduced as "Captain Crunch" for example). I had a line on the tape but the guy I was discussing it with worked there and it would have been a possible get-fired risk had he sent me the tape, so he didn't end up doing it. 

I lost track of him years ago, but knowing the tape exists makes me hope it somehow gets out someday. 

[Migs]

1 hour ago, khawk20 said:

I'm not looking back in the thread and I may have posted about this previously in this thread, but I became aware of the existence of AWA guys wrestling a paid show at a Cereal convention circa 1988-89. The wrestlers had names given to them of cereal mascots of the day (Greg Gagne introduced as "Captain Crunch" for example). I had a line on the tape but the guy I was discussing it with worked there and it would have been a possible get-fired risk had he sent me the tape, so he didn't end up doing it. 

I lost track of him years ago, but knowing the tape exists makes me hope it somehow gets out someday. 

This sounds Team Challenge Series level in terms of comedy. Hope it makes it out there someday.

[CarpetCrawler]

I don't know if it's been discussed on here, but I don't think any footage is out there of MTV's broadcast of The Brawl to End It All.  The War to Settle the Score is out there and was even reran on MTV numerous times a few years after, but The Brawl is one that I haven't seen anything of.  The MSG broadcast of The Brawl exists and is in circulation, but the MTV broadcast is the one that's not circulating and I'm honestly curious what MTV's coverage looked like.

[AA484]

Some of these have been mentioned but these are matches that got votes for Wrestling Observer MOTY that we have little to no footage of:

Rhodes vs. Flair, 9/17/81 (Flair's first title win)

Flair vs. Steamboat, 2/7/82 (Greensboro Coliseum)

Flair vs. Backlund, 7/4/82 (Omni, WWF vs. NWA title)

Flair vs. Hansen, 10/3/82 (Omni)

Rose vs. Schultz, Summer of '82? (Portland Chain Match)

Steamboat vs. Slater, 6/4/84  (Falls Count Anywhere, Greenville, SC)

Midnight Express vs. Anderson & Blanchard, 8/26/88 (Tag Titles, Greensboro Coliseum)

[khawk20]

The ending of flairs first title win is available. The whole match would be great though.

 

...also backlund in his book claimed that his match vs flair was not taped via mutual agreement between the NWA and WWF, however I would bet it was actually taped like LBOA was. If it was it'll be available out of the vault someday I am sure. 

[peachchaos]

35 minutes ago, khawk20 said:

The ending of flairs first title win is available. The whole match would be great though.

 

...also backlund in his book claimed that his match vs flair was not taped via mutual agreement between the NWA and WWF, however I would bet it was actually taped like LBOA was. If it was it'll be available out of the vault someday I am sure. 

And by this logic Flair-Hansen is almost certainly somewhere in the vault. 

The Portland Chain Match is lost to history. They didn't tape any house shows and we're lucky to have what we have. The Kansas City title change is such a huge historical moment that if the whole match was out there, we certainly would have had it for years one would think. Mid Atlantic (JCP) didn't seem to tape much of their early 80's house shows, all we've ever seen was from the Garbage Tapes and handhelds.

The MTV broadcast of the Brawl to End It All is interesting. There's a YouTube commercial for an airing of both specials, so presumably they did reruns of them both at times. There's no shortage of VHS tapings of MTV, so it really seems like this has to be out there somewhere. Strange it hasn't turned up yet tbh.

[khawk20]

Someone should contact Tony DeLacosta about the MTV footage. He has an impressive collection of MTV original broadcasts and blocks and if anyone has it, it's probably him.

flair-Hansen existing would be awesome. I remember one of the mags covering that bout back in the day.