MikeCampbell Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 In their update, they announced they are going to do Timeline 1996 with Raven. Which is a bit disappointing - Raven's certainly a good choice in the abstract, but we've all seen him talk about his ECW run ad nauseam. Also, they are doing a Breaking Kayfabe with Sabu. And Raven has talked at length about how shitty his memory is from those days . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Good news to me. Raven is always entertaining, and that's the most important thing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 If the wrestler is interesting to listen to, and knows how to tell the story with some flow, it's a good thing. I watched the Sabu timeline last week and I found his storytelling ability to be lacking in comparision to most of the others I've watched, and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as a result. I wish, wish WISH that the Timeline concept had been around when more AWA guys were alive or able to talk about stuff as presented in these shoots. Too late for most of them. Going back to listen or watch the other guys do them (which I do for dvd projects or reference points on occasion when I'm working on AWA stuff) is the shits since KC came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/kayfabe-lies-and-alibis-dr-d-david-schultz-shoot-interview/#.VK_uNXvic4IDavid Schultz covers kicking the a lot of people's butts - fans, wrestlers and criminals alike! Plus Jerry Lawler being a wimp, slapping 20/20's John Stossel, Hogan and Heenan being stooges, being blackballed from wrestling and much much more! Several promos are also linked that wouldn't even come close to making TV in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 If the wrestler is interesting to listen to, and knows how to tell the story with some flow, it's a good thing. I watched the Sabu timeline last week and I found his storytelling ability to be lacking in comparision to most of the others I've watched, and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as a result. I wish, wish WISH that the Timeline concept had been around when more AWA guys were alive or able to talk about stuff as presented in these shoots. Too late for most of them. Going back to listen or watch the other guys do them (which I do for dvd projects or reference points on occasion when I'm working on AWA stuff) is the shits since KC came along. Yeah, I just can't take Feinstein anymore in particular. In an age of podcasts and quality shoots... he's unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 If the wrestler is interesting to listen to, and knows how to tell the story with some flow, it's a good thing. I watched the Sabu timeline last week and I found his storytelling ability to be lacking in comparision to most of the others I've watched, and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as a result. I wish, wish WISH that the Timeline concept had been around when more AWA guys were alive or able to talk about stuff as presented in these shoots. Too late for most of them. Going back to listen or watch the other guys do them (which I do for dvd projects or reference points on occasion when I'm working on AWA stuff) is the shits since KC came along. It seems to me that there could potentially be a few possibilities. KC has worked with Martel, Zybyszko, Animal, Greg Gagne, and Janetty. Unless travel is a big issue, then I don't see why they couldn't do something with the Clawmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 In their update, they announced they are going to do Timeline 1996 with Raven. Which is a bit disappointing - Raven's certainly a good choice in the abstract, but we've all seen him talk about his ECW run ad nauseam. Also, they are doing a Breaking Kayfabe with Sabu. And Raven has talked at length about how shitty his memory is from those days . . . . Would it have been better to get Dreamer or Taz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 In their update, they announced they are going to do Timeline 1996 with Raven. Which is a bit disappointing - Raven's certainly a good choice in the abstract, but we've all seen him talk about his ECW run ad nauseam. Also, they are doing a Breaking Kayfabe with Sabu. And Raven has talked at length about how shitty his memory is from those days . . . . Would it have been better to get Dreamer or Taz? YES - those guys would have been great and also would have been fresh interviews. But who knows what they were asking for in terms of price, whether they even want to do shoots (Taz has his own podcast, for example), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 If the wrestler is interesting to listen to, and knows how to tell the story with some flow, it's a good thing. I watched the Sabu timeline last week and I found his storytelling ability to be lacking in comparision to most of the others I've watched, and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as a result. I wish, wish WISH that the Timeline concept had been around when more AWA guys were alive or able to talk about stuff as presented in these shoots. Too late for most of them. Going back to listen or watch the other guys do them (which I do for dvd projects or reference points on occasion when I'm working on AWA stuff) is the shits since KC came along. It seems to me that there could potentially be a few possibilities. KC has worked with Martel, Zybyszko, Animal, Greg Gagne, and Janetty. Unless travel is a big issue, then I don't see why they couldn't do something with the Clawmaster. Yeah, I'd be curious to know if they think an AWA TImeline would make them some money. They haven't really delved into areas like the AWA or some of the older Territories, have they? The more niche areas might be challenging in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/kayfabe-lies-and-alibis-the-tully-blanchard-and-baby-doll-reunion/#.VLnCl3uoBxUTully and Baby Doll cover growing up in the business, why Baby Doll was picked lto be Tully's valet, fans attacking the heels, Dusty's jealousy, the big feuds, JCP's downfall, life after wrestling and much more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Id be most interested in a AWA timeline as well as something like a stampede timeline. I would like to see the other ones finished first though. Who could they possibly get to cover the 1970s as Billy covered 77-78. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 With 70's WWWF ones you would need someone that was a staple of the area to give insight into a whole year, and that would probably disqualify a lot of the heels that came in and out most years to challenge Bruno. Just guessing without cross-referencing, mind you, perhaps a few of the heels that challenged Bruno actually stuck around for a full year with their "Before Bruno and After Bruno" portions tacked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Id be most interested in a AWA timeline as well as something like a stampede timeline. There's a reason why they do Back to the Territories. There's no market for timelines for territories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Oh is that what Back to the Territories is all about. I did wonder. Hope they do this as a continuation. As for the 1970s I dunno why Graham didnt cover more of this. Couldnt they just get Pedro to cover 70 - 75? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't know man. I have nothing wrong with folks expressing the opinions they have on the profession they chose but these Shoots just aren't for me. Seems like a lot of baby rattles is all. To each is own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/kayfabe-lies-and-alibis-q-and-a-with-the-four-horsemen/#.VME4vC6oBxVOle Anderson, Tully Blanchard and JJ Dillon discuss the formation of the group, their best angles, their favorite opponents, Dusty's booking, who should have been a member and much more!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 RVD is long-winded (yeah, I wasn't expected that) and certainly loves to talk about him wanting to "show-off". Still, after a while, it does gets interesting in how he portrays Heyman and some of the ECW crew (Candido for instance). His views on pro-wrestling totally explain why he works the way he does, and in a way it's kinda refreshing although I really can't stand his style at this point. He doesn't tell a lot of insighful stories, but I admit the bit about his "argument" with Tajiri in WWF is really funny, and the dry way RVD tells makes it all the better. As expected, he puts Sabu over big time, which is nice since Sabu puts over RVD all the time too, so you get the feel there's a deep friendship there. Decent episode overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 RVD is long-winded (yeah, I wasn't expected that) and certainly loves to talk about him wanting to "show-off". Still, after a while, it does gets interesting in how he portrays Heyman and some of the ECW crew (Candido for instance). His views on pro-wrestling totally explain why he works the way he does, and in a way it's kinda refreshing although I really can't stand his style at this point. He doesn't tell a lot of insighful stories, but I admit the bit about his "argument" with Tajiri in WWF is really funny, and the dry way RVD tells makes it all the better. As expected, he puts Sabu over big time, which is nice since Sabu puts over RVD all the time too, so you get the feel there's a deep friendship there. Decent episode overall. I like RVD the person a lot. Seems like the coolest dude ever. His story about Sid had me dying laughing. "You see him and you just wanna shit your pants!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I thought he made a lot of good points, like how he learned to wrestle before doing the the stuff with chairs and tables, and talking about looking back at some of the risk that he took. But, he just seemed so in the dark about a lot of the stuff that Sean brought up, which, by his own admission, is because he was in the parking lot with Sabu and not part of Paul's inner circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fando Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 It was a good point, but revealed more about his ego than anything since that knowledge has rarely made any difference because RVD matches are about "showing off" and not "telling a story." Think that's the first time I've heard someone blow off tag wrestling, too because ah jeez, you gotta stand there on the apron. Also weird to hear that a lot people hold the Hayabusa/Shinzaki PPV tag in high regard since it's such an awkward match of miscues and table malfunctions. I remember them having much better spotfests with The Eliminators a few years before that. This was almost but not quite as bad as the last New Jack timeline for not being able to remembering anything well at all. He does great impersonations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I dont mind RVD doing a timeline but I feel that 1999 was the wrong person to choose as I dont recall him being there the full year as he was injured wasent he when he broke his leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I dont mind RVD doing a timeline but I feel that 1999 was the wrong person to choose as I dont recall him being there the full year as he was injured wasent he when he broke his leg? It's the year he had all the matches with Jerry Lynn on PPV though. And when ECW PPV was like available all over the country. Guilty as Charged - RVD Vs. Lance Storm Living Dangerously - RVD Vs. Jerry Lynn Hardcore Heaven - RVD Vs. Jerry Lynn Heatwave - RVD & Lynn Vs. Impact Players Anarchy Rules - RVD Vs. Balls Mahoney in the main event for some reason November to Remember - RVD Vs. Taz He literally wrestled and won on every PPV ECW had in that year. Van Dam broke his ankle in Jan' 00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I dont mind RVD doing a timeline but I feel that 1999 was the wrong person to choose as I dont recall him being there the full year as he was injured wasent he when he broke his leg? That was 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Looking forward to the flood of Justin Gabriel shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I loved RVD talking about how he didn't understand or agree with Rip Rogers' philosophy of rather than using kicks the whole match, saving it for the finish. Kinda explains RVD and a lot of the indy style that propped up post-ECW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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