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Reading all y'all's posts about Warrior makes me want to watch The Warrior Show pilot again -- it's a classic, where he gets in the faces of some scared little emo rock stars, says "fuck" about a billion times, and makes them work out until they puke.

 

It's actually pretty inspiring. Aside from his neanderthal racist/homophobic comments, I am a Warrior fan.

Yeah I remember seeing that a year or ago. Inspiring, hilarity and insanity all at the same time. With all the crappy reality shows I was hoping some station would pick it up. Maybe it was all the swearing that turned networks off.

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Unrelated to this year, but I'm watching the Mania 28 HOF uncut and holy shit, JBL's speech inducting Ron Simmons is outstanding, funny, and touching.

Try and find it, it's so fucking good. Just one thing that starts it that's great is JBL saying that the night before a writer came up to him saying he was assigned to help him with his speech. JBL says he can't repeat what he told him and that the day he needs help talking about the best friend he's ever had is the day you can put him in the ground.

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Did Hall have any good singles matches during the NWO run? The only three singles matches I can even remember were against Zbyszko, Sting, and Goldberg, and I don't remember anything about them really. Was he already a mess in 96' when he got signed?

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I get why they are inducting him as Razor, since WWE experience is weighted far more heavily than everything else. And maybe the induction video would have been tricky since sometimes WWE treats different gimmicks as different people, even if the same person played them, if that makes sense. But as Meltzer put it, when he was Razor, he was a mid to upper-mid card guy for around 3 years during WWF's lowest business run. Scott Hall has been in wrestling for around 30 years, and has used his real name as his ring name for a vast majority of that time, including from 1996 on. WWE is a corporate-run hall of fame. If the Observer HOF put him on the ballot (and I think they did one of the first years), he'd go in as Scott Hall.

 

I hope that if WWE considers Madusa, they don't pull something similar and put her in as Alaundra Blayze.

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I have to agree that since its their Hall, they are free to honor Scott, or anyone (i.e. William Moody going in as Paul Bearer and not his real name/Percy Pringle) with a past elsewhere under a different gimmick or persona however they want to.

 

You honestly think Glenn Jacobs will go in as anything BUT Kane for example? Isn't Curt Henning listed as "Mr. Perfect" in the Hall Roster?

 

Its probably the same reasoning behind Kevin Nash making Rumble appearances as "Diesel" even though he HAS wrestled in the WWF/WWE as "Kevin Nash." And they have acknowledged that Scott is in fact the legit Razor Ramon, they aren't going to pull a fast one and have Rick Bognar sharing the stage with Scott Hall!

 

And yeah, I'm sure "Scott Hall" will become a Two-Time HOFer when it comes time to put the nWo in as a unit. I don't think he was a mess backstage during his first few years with WCW, but he was mostly with Nash in the tag scene and more of a background enforcer with the main squad/Wolfpac before going off the deep end. He did win a title shot at a World War III but sadly I think that was pretty much dropped.

 

He did have two US Champion reigns in 1999, and was the TV Champion that tossed the belt in the trash, only to be found by Jim Duggan!

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Wasn't a rhetorical question because I really don't know. I mean 20 years ago WWE liked to ignore everything that wasn't WWE, but those times have changed when they bought all the video footage. Scott Hall matches are readily available on the WWE Network. Most HoF montages highlight a character's entire career and this package started and ended with Razor Ramon.

 

The thought crossed my mind that they wanted to induct him separately as a member of the Outsiders/nWo, but is Scott Hall really such an important character that he gets inducted twice? I didn't like it when they did it with Ric Flair, but even then _it's Ric Flair_. Hall deserved a spot in the Hall of Fame, but one induction is enough.

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I didn't like it when they did it with Ric Flair, but even then _it's Ric Flair_. Hall deserved a spot in the Hall of Fame, but one induction is enough.

How do you induct The Four Horsemen WITHOUT including Flair? That'd be like the Basketball Hall of Fame inducting The Dream Team 1990 Olympic Team but only listing Christian Latener (only non-HOF-er on roster).

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I think they are inducting Jake and Hall this year because they have both been reported as sober. If and when they induct the NWO, if Hall falls off the wagon, they can induct them without Hall actually appearing but still be in the group being inducted. You have Hogan, Nash and Syxx on stage, drop some Hall references like they did on TV and move on. Next year, I can see Mabel/Viscera being inducted posthumously. He was with the company on and off for 15 years.

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I didn't like it when they did it with Ric Flair, but even then _it's Ric Flair_. Hall deserved a spot in the Hall of Fame, but one induction is enough.

How do you induct The Four Horsemen WITHOUT including Flair? That'd be like the Basketball Hall of Fame inducting The Dream Team 1990 Olympic Team but only listing Christian Latener (only non-HOF-er on roster).

 

 

 

You induct Arn, Tully, Windham and JJ Dillon while noting that Flair is already in the HOF. Which I was what I thought they'd do, instead of double-inducting Flair.

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I didn't like it when they did it with Ric Flair, but even then _it's Ric Flair_. Hall deserved a spot in the Hall of Fame, but one induction is enough.

How do you induct The Four Horsemen WITHOUT including Flair? That'd be like the Basketball Hall of Fame inducting The Dream Team 1990 Olympic Team but only listing Christian Latener (only non-HOF-er on roster).

 

 

 

You induct Arn, Tully, Windham and JJ Dillon while noting that Flair is already in the HOF. Which I was what I thought they'd do, instead of double-inducting Flair.

 

 

So, you'd be fine if the Basketball Hall of Fame, which has been inducting specific team rosters since the 1960s, only listed Christian Laettner and assistant coach P.J. Carlesimo for the 1992 Men's US Olympic Team because they are the only non-Hall of Famers among the players and coaching staff?

 

And speaking of said coaching staff, you want to have Lenny Wilkens as a player only or a coach only as he, who was on that year's staff, was inducted twice, once as a player and then again as one of the winningest coaches in NBA history.

 

The Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame has Ray Stevens inducted twice, as a member of a Tag Team with Pat Patterson, and as a solo competitor if you want to use a non-WWF Hall of Fame for a different example.

 

I'm not sure why you want to arbitrarily say that someone SHOULDN'T get inducted more than once if the Hall of Fame's rules allows someone to be honored in anyway they seem fit.

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