Grimmas Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 That match should win Xavier the Non-Wrestler of the Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Lots of talk that that was the worst Raw of the year. Alvarez was basically saying such on twitter. I thought it was bad but no worse than usual. I guess people really hated that Kane/Rollins angle. Was it blatantly breaking kayfabe? Yeah but Kane is really great in this role. I hate that he is in the man event and I hate that I'm enjoying it but he's been hitting a homerun the last 2 weeks   and Reigns looked like a pretty big star in the main event. Crowd was finally popping for the first time tonight. Best he's looked since Shield days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I feel bad if that's WWE's answer to bad ratings. Â There was some fun stuff. I genuinely enjoyed the first half hour. A lot of things felt different tonight. They were doing some squashes. Promos felt more natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 It was definitely not worse than some of the stuff from February/March. Â There's going to be a lot of hate for Kane-Rollins that's ultimately "this isn't in the Aztec Temple so it sucks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 The big difference is that LU is a TV show that happens to be about wrestling, and does it well. RAW most weeks is a wrestling program trying to be like a TV show and failing. Â I like Kane the Happy Director a lot, but when he got put in the ambulance and came out as the demon (with smoke and light effects), that was some straight up Shockmaster level bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's going to be a lot of hate for Kane-Rollins that's ultimately "this isn't in the Aztec Temple so it sucks". Â Remind me what LU character played by a worker as shitty as Kane has been on TV for 17 years straight already ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hornswoggle suspended for 30 days for violating the wellness policy. The last suspension was over two years ago and it was Ricardo Rodriguez. OK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Only saw the first segment + match(es). Â Thought Woods/Cena and the six-man were both really strong. Woods was absolutely excellent in both and I'm guessing Cena appreciated having a bit of a "night off." I don't mean to imply that Cena was anything less than his usual good-to-great, but this was exactly what I wanted out of him after months of arguably overblown matches with Owens, Rollins, and Cesaro. Â Cena's work in the six-tag also made me wonder if anyone has ever talked about Cena in tag situations. Maybe something for the Microscope? I don't have an opinion either way, but I'm sure the body of work is there to see if he's bad, average, or good. I thought he was really good here, selling for New Day masterfully. I especially like what he did for Big E, who, at one point, hit him with a shoulder block that Cena bounced all the way to the heel corner from and, the cherry on top, ate a nasty spear to the outside that company ace John friggin' Cena didn't need to take. Â I read the rest of the show is not great, but if you told me that the show declined from here on out, I'd believe you - the top 4 reasons to watch RAW were done by 8:30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Â Â There's going to be a lot of hate for Kane-Rollins that's ultimately "tis isn't in the Aztec Temple so it sucks". Remind me what LU character played by a worker as shitty as Kane has been on TV for 17 years straight already ? Blue Demon Jr and Chavo are pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hornswoggle suspended for 30 days for violating the wellness policy. The last suspension was over two years ago and it was Ricardo Rodriguez. OK... Â The kind of thing that makes me wonder which top guy he's taking a fall for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015   There's going to be a lot of hate for Kane-Rollins that's ultimately "tis isn't in the Aztec Temple so it sucks". Remind me what LU character played by a worker as shitty as Kane has been on TV for 17 years straight already ? Blue Demon Jr and Chavo are pretty close   Chavo is a good worker. And Chavo's LU character is probably the coolest of his career, and was fresh too.  And I haven't heard one good thing said about Blue Demon in LU either, everybody seems to agree he was worthless there too. So... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hornswoggle suspended for 30 days for violating the wellness policy. The last suspension was over two years ago and it was Ricardo Rodriguez. OK... Â The jokes write themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Only saw the first segment + match(es). Â Woods/Cena Ay caramba! That happened? Finally a match that doesn't stink like a musty old cardigan. Gonna have to tune into the beginning of raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Is Cena doing the open challenge again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Is Cena doing the open challenge again? Â Yeah. New Day answered the challenge, then had to choose which one of the three to wrestle. They chose Woods. Ref kicked Big E. & Kofi from ringside. Cena had Woods in the STF & was gonna beat him, so Big E. & Kofi ran back out to cause the DQ. Which made the Dudleys run out. That's how it became a 6-man tag. Â That all happened in the first 1/2 hour of the show & was easily the highlight of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready_Willing_Gable Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Start and end of episode were really cool. Mixed bag in between  Kane stuff was silly as, but okay. The two sides of Kane is a lot more interesting than one Kane is capable of being in 2015, so fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There have been RAWs in the past couple months worse than last night. The Kane/HR thing was actually amusing, and fun-stupid before the ambulance shit took it to stupid-stupid. Plus the opening segment was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Another record low rating. This might push Vince into all out panic mode soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The question becomes what can they even do at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ratings have been shitty for a while now and Vince hasn't panicked at all. It's kinda weird to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Also, I'm I the only one kinda surprised Rollins hasn't had much backlash for this ratings and "meh" house show numbers? I get he's Hunter's guy but it's still weird seeing a guy with his backround not having enemies in the back that are feeding Keller, Johnson and Meltzer stories about the company having doubts about him as their top guy like they did with Punk and Bryan. Â On the other hand, I'm glad we are past that kinda discussion and it's almost consensus that no matter who's on top, if the product is as stale as it has been it's almost impossible to get good results. But still, kinda weird there's no noise about it. Â The question becomes what can they even do at this point? Â Bring back Jeff Hardy and clear Daniel Bryan? No clue if that would work at all ratings wise - and putting aside the fact that both those things are highly unlikely to happen - but I'm not sure who they can rely on to give the roster and their product a refreshing boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready_Willing_Gable Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Best thing that could happen to WWE's current ratings is probably for the NFL to suddenly fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 It's weird that their response so far has been to copy the Joseph Park angle with Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Reigns vs Bray confirmed to be a HIAC cell. If it's a very good-great match Roman is pretty clearly the best PPV performer this year, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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