Lee Casebolt Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I am glad that Kamala managed to get on 7 ballots. Had him at 100. I am also shocked that Bob Armstrong has not shown up yet. I'm not. I'll be surprised if he shows up before the 200s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I am glad that Kamala managed to get on 7 ballots. Had him at 100. I am also shocked that Bob Armstrong has not shown up yet. I'm not. I'll be surprised if he shows up before the 200s. Well my shock comes from the fact that I nominated him myself and his thread had no responses outside of the one post I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 The first person off my list has shown up and it's my #100 in John Tenta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I could have gotten Tenta into the top 300. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 42 on Billy Graham feels crazier than any of the "questionable" high rankings so far. I mean I have seen so many Graham matches where he does pretty much NOTHING. The only good matches I've seen from him were against Dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Not sure what Yamada did to deserve that dubious distinction. The lucha graveyard continues. Must... fight... the... urge... to... have... backlash...against...token... picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I could have gotten Tenta into the top 300. Ah well. I will not forgive you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dragon Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Incredibly happy Kingston got 5 votes, even if the 13 is a "Wha?" ranking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTNW Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Eddie Kingston-13th best wrestler ever. Okay. Kohsaka, Ono and Usuda should be appearing soon because anyone I like can't do well. Casas and Satanico will surely improve their placement but outside of them I don't expect lucha to do that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I was going to stop by GOTNW forced me to post one more for tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Superstar Graham, a wrestler so bad we named the "worst worker of the night" award after him on Where the Big Boys Play, has finished at #310 over ... LOADS of worker who are demonstrably better. What the flying fuck? This is Superstar Graham here, yeah? 8 ballots and a #42 vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsem43 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Do you know whether Arisa Nakajima works there much? Her match with Shirai is one of the best of the decade so far. No, but the two are going to be on opposite sides of a tag match next month. Shirai w/ Mayu Iwatani vs. Nakajima w/ Tsukasa Fujimoto, on paper it should be the best joshi match this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I re-iterate, SUPERSTAR GRAHAM??!!!! Did people not see that this was actually Greatest Wrestler Ever and not worst wrestler ever? EIGHT votes? There is no excusing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Parv some people took into account drawing and charisma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Parv some people took into account drawing and charisma Did they also vote for Big Daddy and Jesse Ventura? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Parv some people took into account drawing and charismaDid they also vote for Big Daddy and Jesse Ventura? Oddly no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Graham was actually bad enough that I have to ask the eight voters if they actually ever saw a match of his. He also has lower lows than anyone who ever wrestled. Graham's low points basically drill through the middle of the earth burn right through hell and then terrorise kids in Australia. Honestly, his placement is making me think strange thoughts like "damn, Mr. Hughes was SCREWED". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Not sure what Yamada did to deserve that dubious distinction. The lucha graveyard continues. Must... fight... the... urge... to... have... backlash...against...token... picks. You should have voted. Lucha needed you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Wait.. Graham had good highs in the 70s. What do the later lows even matter? Post prime is irrelevant;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I love Eddie Kingston. But 13..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Wait.. Graham had good highs in the 70s. What do the later lows even matter? Post prime is irrelevant;) What were his 70s highs? Laying an egg against Harley? I'll give him this: he could sell better than he's given credit for. And was demonstrably a better wrestler than Jesse Ventura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Dusty feud was really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Venturas best matches were better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I would like my credit for being low vote on Fujita as I felt weird justifying what I thought was an insanely high vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Smarkschoice comparisons this round:91) Toshiyo Yamada - 699 Points (PWO: #314) - lowest SC Top 100 worker on PWO list160) Lizmark – 208 Points (PWO: #317)197) Brad Armstrong – 123 Points (PWO: 315)243) John Bradshaw Layfield – 71 Points (PWO: #316)342) Carl Malenko – 33 Points (PWO: #328)429) Mr. Wrestling II – 4 Points (PWO: #323)431) Yoshihisa Yamamoto – 4 Points (PWO: #320)I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a Toshiyo Yamada match. Sorry. Her and Lizmark continue to show the decline of certain lucha and Joshi workers, but Yamada is clearly the biggest difference we’ve seen yet for workers who made both lists. Wrestling II going up a hundred spots is an interesting turn that I wouldn't have guessed. I had Espanto, Jr. at #76. Incredible Santo opponent who I’ve never seen have anything less than an awesome performance: ranking was a "footage seen" issue. Plus his career was cut kind of short as I think we only have about 10 (12 max) years of him w/ limited appearances in that time. I had Hoshino at #79. One of the all-time fiery juniors with unbelievable charisma. I share Ackermann’s assessment that if you didn’t vote for him, you suck. I had Mascarita Sagrada at #87. One of only two minis on my list, and one who could have been higher if I was more of a "year-over-year consistency" voter. Austin Idol being unranked in ’06 is ridiculous, as is JBL being higher than Carl Malenko. For this above all his other faults, I say to hell with JBL. Billy Graham and Tenta being higher than most of the people who’ve come before them is disgraceful, but at least they’ve now placed and can go no higher. 11 ballots for Tenta is a case for forced sterilization. Katsumi Usuda was on my list at one time and is a great choice for anyone. Would make my top 125. Fantastic in the ’08 BattlARTS trios that is one of the best matches of all time, and has dozens of great taped performances beyond that. I will say straight up that anyone who seriously watched 4,000 matches across a range of styles for the sake of this project gets to vote however the hell they want, including for Warrior. Kudos, Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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