TheU_2001 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Over the years there have been numerous moves/strikes which have bothered me or I just don't like: The Worm, John Cena's You Can't See Me Fistdrop, The People's Elbow, The Bushwhackers' Battering Ram, Jeff Hardy's Swanton Bomb and Twist of Fate, and now there is a new one... Roman Reign's Superman Punch. I can't stand it. I think it looks dumb, he clearly misses entirely much of the time, the announcers play it up like it's a huge deal when he hits it. It's one of my least favorite parts of Reigns' offense, none of which I really like. What do you say? What moves/strikes do you not like and why?
Jingus Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 I do believe this is in the wrong folder. But, on topic: in terms of execution, Nash's jackknife powerbomb is the very first thing that comes to mind. It looks like shit, Nash seems like he's losing his balance and about to fall over on literally half the times he ever does this move. Add in the fact that it's legit dangerous and he's injured people with it, and it's one of those "no, seriously, WHY is this your finish?!" conundrums which I have never understood. In terms of bad-on-paper theory: Umaga's "Samoan Spike". How the hell do you hurt a guy with your thumb and nothing else? It's hard enough to believe the Asiatic spike as a hold, but asking us to buy this same move as a strike is ludicrous. You'd break your own finger before you actually hurt anyone else with it.
Johnny Sorrow Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 If the thumb is taped, the idea is that it's reinforced and stiff.
pantherwagner Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 But, on topic: in terms of execution, Nash's jackknife powerbomb is the very first thing that comes to mind. It looks like shit, Nash seems like he's losing his balance and about to fall over on literally half the times he ever does this move. Add in the fact that it's legit dangerous and he's injured people with it, and it's one of those "no, seriously, WHY is this your finish?!" conundrums which I have never understood. Tenryu is one of my five favourite Japanese wrestlers ever but his powerbomb is the shits. It's hard for me to watch modern matches where there are brutal head dropping moves. They seem unnecessary. I can still tolerate it in older matches even if it's not something that I enjoy anymore even if 15 years ago two of my favourite moves were the Michinoku Driver/Wagner Driver and the Guerrero style brainbuster.
Al Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Jamming your thumb into someone's windpipe is a legit disabling move.
dawho5 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 Possibly fatal, depending on how hard you are able to do it. I would say that it's not a very "pro wrestling" type move. It's not flashy/big enough to really compete with even stuff like a lariat or a rolling elbow.
cubbymark Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 I can't stand Kazuchika Okada Rainmaker. Having seen it live at ROH'S Global Wars in Chicago, I can confirm it's just a shitty clothesline.
gordi Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 This is a pretty common one, and a lot of wrestlers do it, but... When wrestler A whips wrestler B toward. the ring ropes, then wrestler B TURNS AROUND AND BOUNCES OFF THE ROPES and runs back toward wrestler A. Totally unbelievable. Takes me out of the match every time.
sek69 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 The Heart Punch. Wasn't the only reason the Heart Punch ever got over that someone died (for unrelated reasons) after a match where he took one?
topropepodcast Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 I could never see another goddamn Superkick again and I'd be incredibly happy.
BBscout Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Knee strikes to the head, especially anything off the top or from the apron look like shit. They barely connect, give no sound for impact, and get zero pop. It's like the new age double axe handle. Almost every flying move is done for a reaction but these get zero.
Matt D Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 I love the heart punch. But mainly used by Stan Stasiak. It's so great in both the Buddy Rose matches and the Andre match. You guys just haven't seen those yet. I hate any move that involves a wrestler dangling from the corner forever, like Dragon Lee's double stomp (which Del Rio uses too). It's okay in trios when they have the partners set it up, but in general, it's stuff that's too obviously collaborative that bugs me the most.
Ricky Jackson Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 The Heart Punch. Wasn't the only reason the Heart Punch ever got over that someone died (for unrelated reasons) after a match where he took one? The Heart Punch got over because it was sold like death and nobody kicked out after taking one. The Heart Punch is awesome
PhilTLL Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 European uppercuts usually look awful, especially in person. Special mention as always for the Dean Ambrose Shitty Tope.
Loss Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 Any move that requires an overblown announcement, like The People's Elbow, Sweet Chin Music, The Worm, Superman Punch, whatever that dumb thing Zach Ryder does is, Five Knuckle Shuffle, etc.
Soko Posted May 15, 2016 Report Posted May 15, 2016 I don't at all like the springboard/handspring cutter used by Jay Lethal and Will Ospreay.
TheU_2001 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Posted May 16, 2016 I do believe this is in the wrong folder. But, on topic: in terms of execution, Nash's jackknife powerbomb is the very first thing that comes to mind. It looks like shit, Nash seems like he's losing his balance and about to fall over on literally half the times he ever does this move. Add in the fact that it's legit dangerous and he's injured people with it, and it's one of those "no, seriously, WHY is this your finish?!" conundrums which I have never understood. In terms of bad-on-paper theory: Umaga's "Samoan Spike". How the hell do you hurt a guy with your thumb and nothing else? It's hard enough to believe the Asiatic spike as a hold, but asking us to buy this same move as a strike is ludicrous. You'd break your own finger before you actually hurt anyone else with it. Both of those moves were bad, so I agree there. On a side note, which folder should this have gone in (for future reference)?
Loss Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 This one (Pro Wrestling -- where I moved it) is a good fit.
fakeplastictrees Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 The Figure 8 is the first one that popped into my mind. I understand how its suppose to be 'cute' and an extension of a legacy, but doesn't the elevation actually lessen the pain?
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