kjh Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I doubt we'll see HHH as a heel again to be honest Really? I see him as being very similar to Ric Flair in this regard, someone who is a lot more comfortable as a heel and will eventually want to turn for that reason even though he has probably built up enough respect by this point that it will be difficult to get the fans to vociferously boo him. This gels with Dave Meltzer's reports several weeks ago that Hunter wants to turn heel after his comeback program with Randy Orton. HHH needs heel fodder but didn't think top babyface star should have credible heel fodder. I don't buy that HHH believes that. I think that the lack of credible heels on Raw is more indicative that his DX nostalgia inspired babyface run was always supposed to be fairly short lived and that he didn't want anyone gaining traction as a top heel in the meantime. That's why I believe Edge was jobbed out when he left Raw for Smackdown - he didn't want the long term Smackdown heel champion to be credible, because that's the role he was planning to take on Raw. He doesn't need credible heel fodder because he isn't staying face long. Booker and Orton are going to be squashed to guarantee that he's the only credible heel in the promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I don't buy that HHH believes that. I think that the lack of credible heels on Raw is more indicative that his DX nostalgia inspired babyface run was always supposed to be fairly short lived and that he didn't want anyone gaining traction as a top heel in the meantime. That's why I believe Edge was jobbed out when he left Raw for Smackdown - he didn't want the long term Smackdown heel champion to be credible, because that's the role he was planning to take on Raw. He doesn't need credible heel fodder because he isn't staying face long. Booker and Orton are going to be squashed to guarantee that he's the only credible heel in the promotion. Since Mania was supposed to be Cena v HHH I assume that sets up good guess as to how long the DX babyface run was supposed to be. And both me and Booker are making the same assumptions you make in this paragraph. Another reason to think that Dan Wahlers says lots of stupid stuff but the burial comment wasn't an example of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=20345 Can *anyone* make sense of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Do I want to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=20345 Can *anyone* make sense of this? Oy vey, that made my eyes and head hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 The funny thing about Wahlers is the way he writes in such short, abrupt paragraphs makes all his columns look like haiku for the mentally challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Yeah, I was going to ask if his columns looked like this to everyone else, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodySave Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=20345 Can *anyone* make sense of this? I wonder how the poor bastard feels now that he's written an uneccessarily long column about WWE approaching doomsday based on a TV rating that has been revealed to have been a Nielsen error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 And besides that, anyone who thinks any recent decline in popularity can be attributed to anything EXCEPT wrestling's reputation as a result of the Benoit tragedy is so caught up in the wrestling bubble that they're hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I wish I had the definitive answer for you. I’ve been e-mailed by a lot of people over the last 48 hours wanting to know why I think the ratings for Raw dropped so sharply. This boggles my mind. Who E-Mails Dan Wahlers looking for his insight on this? What kind of person turns to Dan Wahlers for intelligent wrestling analysis on a bad WWE rating? I can't wrap my head around this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I liked the HHH promo with Edge. Edge was bragging about beating Foley at WM, and HHH responds with "I retired his ass SIX YEARS AGO!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 BTW, what does everyone think of Linden Walker? His MSG reviews are okay but with the constant shots at Monsoon, JYD and to a lesser degree Backlund you can tell he is desperately trying to pander to Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Am I the only one who actually misses the days of guys like Hyatte and Keith? Yeah, they were biased, but at least they were their own biases. All the new reviewers these days always sound like they're either trying to imitate someone else's style, or writing specifically to impress other people. What does Dave have against Backlund, anyway? Is it some kind of "he wasn't as good as Bruno" crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I think it's partly that Backlund is an acquired taste. Dave's been pretty consistent in his general dislike of the vanilla babyface and Bob was pretty much the archetype of that. Also there was a weird comment in the Gotch obit on how Backlund giving up weight training for cardio at Gotch's suggestion "ruined his career" since he was a lot leaner and no longer had the same look. I thought turning down Vince's suggestion to turn heel was what ruined his career if anything, but what do I know. It's almost like Dave held some sort of weird weightlifter grudge or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 That comment came from an WO interview with Karl Gotch from 1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I don't think Meltzer hates Bob Backlund. He doesn't give him as much credit as he deserves in some cases, but I don't think it's an intentional snubbing. Some people have a tendency to judge his entire career based on his 1983 year and Hulkamania following it, so there's this perception that fans always hated him. Fans weren't crazy about him by that time, but he was very over and drew tons of MSG sellouts from 1978-1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Am I the only one who actually misses the days of guys like Hyatte and Keith? God, I hope you are the only one. The last time SK said something relavent was when it gave Tim Cooke an opening to destroy his recap of JBL-Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I'd rather read Keith than Danny boy. Of course i'd rather have my eyes gouged out if it mean never hearing from those two douches again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Yeah, they were biased, but at least they were their own biases. I don't know about their own. Keith was notorious for stealing other peoples stuff. Maybe completely misunderstanding it and misusing but it wasn't his own. He's also a guy who was known to go back and edit old pieces to reflect more modern conventional wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Well, that's true. Okay, I was narrowing it down too far: let's say Keith and Hyatte and Scaia and CRZ and the whole Scoops crew. They at least had real definable styles and personalities. All the ones running around today seem like young whippersnappers who either ape an older guy's writing or have no discernable personality whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 So what's the deal with Alan Wojojojojojojojojojick getting the bannoration from the Impact Zone? It seems odd that A. People take laptops to wrestling shows and B. TNA would feel the need to make a rule against it. His final tapings report was more maudlin than the final episode of a sitcom that's gone several seasons past its prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 TNA is Paranoid and blames everyone with a computer that can talk to guys like Meltzer on Everyone panning Pacman. Screw that, i want to know the truth about his near suicide over a internet message board. I knew the Kaiju guys would get to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Wojcik always insisted on using his laptop for reporting, even at indy shows. Not sure why, the Larry Goodmans of the world got by just fine with pen-n-paper, but that's how he did it. Example #8723 of TNA being assholes to the fans for no real reason. Especially since Alan, well, was their single most enthusiastic rimjobber; he'd cheer and defend the product no matter what, acted as an unpaid employee, did interviews with the wrestlers, syndicated his reports all over the net, and they just arbitrarily decided "something must be done, we've got to stop him!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 It's a little needless on TNA's part, although Wojcik being seemingly incapable of just going to a wrestling show and not "reporting" is humorous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dan Wahlers is ANGRY!!!! This column is completely hilarious as Young Master Dan apparently is just now aware of what anyone with a functioning frontal lobe knew roughly five minutes after WWE initially announced its Wellness Policy. The smoking gun is a report from Sports Illustrated with a lengthy list of current and former WWE wrestlers that purchased steroids, growth hormones, and other illegal drugs through Internet doctors as recently as February 2007. Let me do the math for you on that one. That would be a full year AFTER WWE’s so-called health and wellness policy went into effect. The policy that firmly states that drug purchases through Internet doctors will not be allowed. Folks, someone has been lying to you for quite a while now, and here’s a hint. It’s not Sports Illustrated, and other members the "biased, sensationalistic" media. OMGWTFBBQ~! A wrestling company full of carnies has been lying to you! The policy was all a sham!. Jesus Christ, am I just that jaded or does it seem like Wahlers needs water wings and a helmet to eat soup? Ladies and gentlemen, the facts speak for themselves, and the facts say that Ken Anderson a.k.a. Mr. Kennedy is unadulterated liar…..LIAR! Nevermind, it's definitely the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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