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Guest Corrado

I had to make my first post here after a comment JR made on tonight's Smackdown. In the R-Truth/Charlie Haas match, JR made a comment that Charlie Haas has never had a sense of humor. Now I was stunned because Haas had a gimmick for the better part of last year where he imitated other wrestlers.

 

Now I dont know if this is the somewhat usual method WWE trying to forget non-memorable past gimmicks. Or if its JR not paying attention to RAW.

 

Just had to point that out.

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I think it's just WWE forgetting about past gimmicks, or they're trying to do what they do every so often and push a guy who's been involved as comedy forever as a SERIOUS WRESTLER thinking that makes people forget about Stone Cold Steve Haas-tin.

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RVD makes some interesting comments about JR in his most recent shoot done shortly after the death of Michael Jackson.

 

http://www.wrestle-network.com/shows/sp/wn...ndamspecial.mp3

 

In the shoot he talks about JR and his smart ass comments he would make to RVD and how JR would undersell everything RVD did in the ring by saying 'RVD with those educated feet', no matter WHAT Rob did.

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RVD makes some interesting comments about JR in his most recent shoot done shortly after the death of Michael Jackson.

 

http://www.wrestle-network.com/shows/sp/wn...ndamspecial.mp3

 

In the shoot he talks about JR and his smart ass comments he would make to RVD and how JR would undersell everything RVD did in the ring by saying 'RVD with those educated feet', no matter WHAT Rob did.

I haven't listened to that interview, but it's funny how people at various forums have been calling him bitter because of what he said. Most people I read didn't seem to even listen to the interview; they just got mad because he criticized guys like J.R and Steve Austin.

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Guest Kenta Batista

Idiots.

 

Check out the interview, if you haven't a good listen and RVD doesn't sound bitter at all. What the hell is he bitter about? He performed at WM, won all the WWE titles,Mainevented countless WWE TV shows, toured the world, was one of the most consistently over performers that never lost steam with the crowd,etc. Some marks are unbelievable with their man love for Vince.

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I found this to be an interesting comment in JR's latest blog:

 

It was interesting to see UFC's Randy Couture in Gina's corner even though Couture was conspicuously absent from any discretionary camera shots during the almost 5 minute bout. Nonetheless, when I saw Couture on TV I immediately thought of UFC which is to whom Couture is so closely associated. If UFC has issues with Randy Couture being tied to the most popular figure in Women's MMA and getting their brand some free publicity on the alleged "rival's broadcast" then perhaps the folks at UFC need to "lighten up Francis." No harm no foul in my eyes as it relates to Randy Couture showing up on Showtime Saturday night as it only created a little media stretch for UFC.

Wasn't this the company that fired a low level tag wrestler for sitting in the crowd at a TNA event? I don't have a problem with it either but I just thought it was an odd comment. I can't imagine WWE would be cool with Undertaker shown in Samoa Joe's corner on one of their broadcasts.

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The ear controversy. What's up with Ted DiBiase's nasty looking ear? From what I was told the ear got infected for some unknown reason and when young Ted went to get it checked out the doctor discovered that DiBiase had tubes inserted in his ears as a child and they were never removed! However, if you are operating some of the dubious wrestling websites that exist in cyberspace feel free to make up what you choose regarding this matter much like you have about my professional future.

Normally I think people overreact about JR's "grouchiness", but jeez he comes off like a prick here. I did read people on message boards wonder why Dibiase's ear looked all wacky, so instead of just explaining why that is, he has to scold everyone for hypothesizing. What an arrogant ass.

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The ear controversy. What's up with Ted DiBiase's nasty looking ear? From what I was told the ear got infected for some unknown reason and when young Ted went to get it checked out the doctor discovered that DiBiase had tubes inserted in his ears as a child and they were never removed! However, if you are operating some of the dubious wrestling websites that exist in cyberspace feel free to make up what you choose regarding this matter much like you have about my professional future.

Normally I think people overreact about JR's "grouchiness", but jeez he comes off like a prick here. I did read people on message boards wonder why Dibiase's ear looked all wacky, so instead of just explaining why that is, he has to scold everyone for hypothesizing. What an arrogant ass.

 

He did explain it, and then he ridiculed people for making up false "news" about it. Which he'd obviously have a problem with after all the BS reports about how he was going to join TNA.
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I thought it was just JR being all self-referential about him being out of touch with what the kids are talking about these days.

 

 

I did however notice that he often has surly comebacks on Todd in occasions that don't quite call for it. Like if it was a wrestler doing it, you'd be supposed to think he was positioning for a heel turn.

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I did however notice that he often has surly comebacks on Todd in occasions that don't quite call for it. Like if it was a wrestler doing it, you'd be supposed to think he was positioning for a heel turn.

Yeah, it tends to be really distracting for a babyface commentator to be such a prick to his co-partner. Ross just seems to get really annoyed easily these past few years.

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Ross and Grisham are really good together, actually. When Ross gets all "surly" on Todd, Todd totally laughs it off. And Todd does a lot of lines to "purposely" set off Ross. But when a match is kicking ass and going full tilt they both drop it and are really good together. It helps that SmackDown has been fucking awesome as of late.

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It's pretty amazing that we have 16 pages on what a prick Ross is. :)

 

John

Well, everyone has their haters.

 

Speaking of haters, I watched the Self-Destruction of the UW on Youtube recently. I find it hilarious that J.R makes fun of Warrior becoming a motivational speaker and compares it to wrestlers who found religion while being on the same DVD as Ted Dibiase. This is coming from someone who thought Warrior was alright but found his political views to be hilarious and shrill.

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From a DVDVR thread:

 

I won't take sides, but I will say, I work at a TV station that has had Jim Ross on as a guest regularly for the past three years or so, and I've seen him four-five times and he just comes off as the most stand-offish, uncomfortable person you'd ever want to meet. Every time I've been around him he just acts like a person who wants to get the hell away from wherever he is. I was even told once to not even mention wrestling around him, just mention his BBQ or OU football. He was never an asshole, just said what he had to say to make others happy, but says it in an insincere way, and I can see that attitude pissing people off.

 

Is he a bad person? No. Is he a bad people-person? God yes.

 

That being said, his BBQ is F'N AWESOME. The best BBQ turkey sandwich I ever ate.

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Not particularly grouchy, hateful or vile for JR, but still reads oddly:

 

Chris abruptly retired from wrestling and then also declared that he was a gay American which were both major developments in his life. I never knew Chris lead an alternative life style when he was with WWE for a few years not that it would have made any difference to me one way or another.

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Maybe JR's just as sick as I am of people "coming out" like it's the 1960s and it's some "heroic" act. It's 2010. Really, do you even need to come out anymore? I mean the fact that anytime a gay person is killed it's portrayed as a "hate crime" doesn't help matters as far as the media is concerned, but aren't we basically at the point were a teenage homosexual can just be gay the way a straight person wouldn't feel the need to sit his/her family down and share the news with them. Hell, the only sexual revelation that I would consider someone brave to make in 2010 is that they've spent years fighting paedophile urges. Now that'd be ballsy.

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No. We're not at that point. We are very, very far from that point.

 

Progress has been made, but there is no way a 16-year old kid in rural Mississippi coming out isn't brave.

 

Until saying "That's gay" is no longer socially acceptable for teens, until gays are allowed to marry each other, until they are allowed to take their dates to prom without creating national headlines, and until politicians stop demonizing gay people for political reasons, it will still be perceived as a dangerous environment for a gay kid to come forward and say "I'm gay".

 

The public has voted in favor of a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage every single time it has ever been put on a ballot in any state. How is a teenage kid struggling with his sexuality supposed to take this as anything but "The world hates you"?

 

Maybe it's not a brave act for a kid living in the most liberal sections of New York City, Washington D.C., San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Chicago, even though there are still acts of violence against gay people in those cities too, and coming out may require bravery in those cases as well. But it is a brave act for pretty much everyone else.

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Until saying "That's gay" is no longer socially acceptable for teens, until gays are allowed to marry each other, until they are allowed to take their dates to prom without creating national headlines, and until politicians stop demonizing gay people for political reasons, it will still be perceived as a dangerous environment for a gay kid to come forward and say "I'm gay".

Well, here in the UK (MJH - you're British too right?) we have civil partnerships and mainstream politicians don't demonize gay people for political reasons, so we're much further ahead on gay rights issues than America. Even here, it can be difficult for people to come out to their parents. What if your parents are staunchly relgious and believe that homosexuality is a grave sin?

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Well consider me told, Loss...

 

But yeah as kjh said being gay isn't any big deal here. I know plenty of daily mass-goers and I've only ever heard them supporting gay rights. In fact I recall the most devoutly catholic person I know, back before Benedict was declared pope a few years back, talking about how shameful it was that one of the higher-ups on the papal chain (he being a top contender for being pope) was quoted as saying he "wants to wash the streets of Rome clean of all men with long hair, ear rings etc" or something to that effect. Then again my impression of the "American religious right" isn't particularly favourable; rather antiquated and ignorant. How much of that is realistic or stereotyped I don't know from personal experience.

 

There was one incident about two years ago of a gay lad who got murdered... but given it was an isolated incident (that is the only one time I can recall of a supposed "gay hate crime") and you get senseless, reasonless murders and if we say 10% of men are gay, if 10% of people killed happen to be gay I wouldn't jump to a homophobic conclusion the same way the media might. I know plenty of gay men, and gay women, and been out with them carrying on as any couple might and get no more glanced at than a straight couple would. I mean, sure, television is awash with caracaturish gay people in a lot of ways, I think as part of their act. As best I know there's no openly gay footballers in the premier league (a welsh rugby player recently "came out") but that might be down to a) not being gay or B) not feeling the need to tell the world about their private life (the News of the World is bad enough as it is)... I'd find it very hard to believe they'd get any negative press for being so.

 

As far as "you're gay" as an insult by kids... we had a lad by ours called Neil, and his nickname was always nigger when we were growing up. And no he wasn't black. If there's no racial malice in using it, then it's not a racist comment. The connutations of words come from their context. A seven year old on the playground knows fuck all about homosexuality, and I've called plenty of people cocksuckers and various other stuff without meaning a homophobic prejudice behind it.

 

I don't even know how I'd react if I ever met a genuinely homophobic person. I'd probably pretend to be gay, tap him in the balls and suggestively say "Oh I could make you change teams". But I doubt I'll be feeling a stranger's sack anytime soon.

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