Death From Above Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 How is a necklace or a bracelet more gimmicky than a cowboy hat? I mean I think shooting pieces of metal through your face is stupid, but that's not more gimmicky than a cowboy hat either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 He's not talking about fashion accessories. He's talking about wearing a dangling piece of metal which is attached to you in some way, while wrestling a match. Whether he's talking about the "that just looks imbecilic, you dumb kids!" aspect or the "you know, I saw Droz get one of those ripped out of his fucking face one time" aspect is up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'm not even debating any of that, gimmicky just seems like a weird word to attach to it. Other than that, clearly we've ran out of material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 It always cracks me up when these old school guys complain about things being too gimmicky, yet most old school guys love the Undertaker, the most gimmicky gimmick that ever gimmicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I know that the anonymous email WrestleZone published is almost certainly BS (Email Links Linda McMahon Campaign to Danielson Release), but boy does J.R. protest too much about the theory that Linda McMahon's campaign was behind Bryan's firing. Buy some BBQ Sauce, Original or HOT, Chipotle Ketchup (It's addictive) and the world's best 97% Fat Free, Oklahoma made Beef Jerky....thank you very much and now on to some unique 'bidness.' Before I get out the soap box, we've updated a ton of Q&A's as of Tuesday night and I think many of them will make you smile plus they are succinct and won't take much of your time. A person always has time to smile. I used to smile all the time before Bells palsy #3 but I'm still a jovial guy at heart. Really. I've made it a point to not to dwell much on politics on this website. There are many reasons why but largely I find politics boorish and self serving. Partisan politicians are to be disdained because when their personal or their parties agendas come before the American people I find it reprehensible. In my eyes, many TV politicians are akin to certain TV preachers and , well, we all know how that's worked out over the years. Today a friend sent me a link to a wrestling website that posted a anonymous email saying that Daniel Bryan's firing had something to do with Linda McMahon's campaign for the Senate in Connecticut. More specifically this unknown, unidentified person even went so far as to say that Bryan's termination was dictated by the someone of authority in the campaign. First of all, if you knew Vince McMahon as I do you would know immediately how ridiculous that theory was. McMahon taking orders from some outsider? Right. I've heard some BS in my life and my share of conspiracy theories during my 4 decades in the wrestling business but this one ranks right up there with some of the stupidest theories I've ever heard. I like Linda McMahon personally and feel she is a class act as she has always treated me professionally and with respect but if she had asked me, she didn't BTW, I would have suggested to her to not walk but to sprint away from politics. I'm that down on the whole political scene and that world's half truths, posturing for personal gain, party first agendas, and the can't balance our own check book mentality of professional politicians. Granted Mrs. McMahon isn't a professional politician of which I should clarify and furthermore I am not a registered voter in the state of Connecticut. In all the years that I worked in the front office of WWE never once did Linda attend a booking meeting, discuss with me or my group who was being fired or hired or what was going to happen on TV. When she appeared on TV as a character on a fictional show, for the record, she played a role that was written for her. She was never overjoyed, as I recall, about being on TV in the first place much less when she had to kick me south of the belt line one faithful night in Corpus Christi. She did not like the assignment and neither did I but we both did our jobs as we were produced to do. It was show biz plain and simple. My point in this blog is that Linda McMahon has zero to do with the day to day running of the WWE and the WWE being the public company that is it isn't so stupid as to allow a political campaign to influence the hiring or firing of a wrestler, what happens in segment 11, or what's booked on the next PPV. Linda has been detached from WWE likely longer than most outsiders even know. I've had plenty of personal issues with WWE, for the record I still think that I should be working on the air, and this blog likely won't endear me to some of the higher ups but let me make this clear....Linda McMahon nor any of her campaign workers or staff have a damn thing to do with how the WWE operates from a business perspective and they never will. The decisions that are made within the WWE are made in the best interest of a public company. End of story. For someone to be 'anonymous' and to try and take a cowardly approach to why the mysterious termination of Daniel Bryan took place and to place the blame on a political campaign is simply insane. I have great respect for all fans and their opinions regarding the many complex facets of the business but this one has struck a chord that I felt compelled to address. This anonymous tip business was just plain stupid and as comedian Ron White says, "You can't cure stupid." Sorry to go off on a 'political' tangent but the talented Daniel Bryan is no longer in WWE's plans. I've been there and I know how he feels. Like many fans I, too, am personally disappointed in this development and hope that Bryan returns to WWE some day. However, if the young man does or does not return it will have nothing to do with anyone's senate campaign. Thanks for indulging me on this one and this will be likely one of the last times that I discuss politics on this site unless it is something that I see on TV that I enjoyed like most weeks of HBO's Bill Maher show. Good night and thanks for reading. Boomer Sooner! J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I like Linda McMahon personally and feel she is a class act as she has always treated me professionally and with respect but if she had asked me, she didn't BTW, I would have suggested to her to not walk but to sprint away from politics. I'm that down on the whole political scene and that world's half truths, posturing for personal gain, party first agendas, and the can't balance our own check book mentality of professional politicians. Granted Mrs. McMahon isn't a professional politician of which I should clarify and furthermore I am not a registered voter in the state of Connecticut.Replace every iteration of the word "politics" with "wrestling" and suddenly that paragraph becomes rather funny while still remaining accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Jim Ross likes Bill Maher? It cracks me up that Jim Cornette and Jim Ross are both fairly liberal politically. In the past, Jim Ross has stated that he felt the Gates arrest was racially motivated and that Obama was right. He also once jumped on someone on his blog for insinuating he was a Republican and said his father died without ever voting for a Republican, but that initially just made me chalk JR up to a Dixiecrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I like Linda McMahon personally and feel she is a class act as she has always treated me professionally and with respect but if she had asked me, she didn't BTW, I would have suggested to her to not walk but to sprint away from politics. I'm that down on the whole political scene and that world's half truths, posturing for personal gain, party first agendas, and the can't balance our own check book mentality of professional politicians. Granted Mrs. McMahon isn't a professional politician of which I should clarify and furthermore I am not a registered voter in the state of Connecticut.Replace every iteration of the word "politics" with "wrestling" and suddenly that paragraph becomes rather funny while still remaining accurate. Also I think it's time to stop saying someone isn't a professional politician when that person is spending millions of dollars to win a political race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Cappetta's book wasn't from the type of publisher I think that Ross is trying to refer to when he says "major publishing houses." Nothing against ECW Press and whatever the heck "Little Bro Ltd." is but they're not exactly Simon & Schuster. Yeah, ECW Press turns a profit. Heh. I only used S&S as the example because they're WWE's publisher. No other "major" has released a wrestling book in the US that I can think of. "Whatever Happened to Gorgeous George" was published by Prentice Hall 30+ years ago. If you count Foley's novels, at least one of them was published by Knopf. Without double-checking, I think the recent Gorgeous George and Mildred Burke books had major publishers. Maybe "I Was A Teenage Pro Wrestler" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkeats Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Also I think it's time to stop saying someone isn't a professional politician when that person is spending millions of dollars to win a political race. Thank you! This drives me nuts. She may not be a professional politician now but she is sure as hell campaigning to be one. Ross is always quick to call stuff "stupid" even though the thing is commenting on is a very logical possibility. He kind of evades the premise he brought up. No one is saying Linda McMahon has anything to do with the creative product. When he was in the front office, Linda wasn't running for senate. God forbid someone thinks Mr. McMahon has to acquiesce to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Bravo to Chael Sonnen and wouldn't it be wonderful if we had another Montreal screwjob on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 So ... the Kharma defenders on Twitter seem to be getting under Jim Ross's skin. He claims it was "fictional" that he told her she was too fat to be in WWE during Tough Enough tryouts. Anyone know more about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Meltzer said that JR and Austin recommended her to WWE. Sounds like Vince having more fun with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 http://kharmageddonblast.blogspot.com/2011...r.html?spref=tw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if JR would have an issue with Kong's size. He sent Mark Henry down to OVW to lose weight and there's the Tony Jones thing in Beyond the Mat that sparked quite the discussion 'round these parts. He doesn't really come off quite that blunt to just flat out tell her "We're not interested in you, you're too fat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Kharma seems to have problems anywhere she works, though. TNA mistreated her, and now the WWE, albeit a much shorter time, has also mistreated her. Maybe she needs to become a writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if JR would have an issue with Kong's size. He sent Mark Henry down to OVW to lose weight and there's the Tony Jones thing in Beyond the Mat that sparked quite the discussion 'round these parts. He doesn't really come off quite that blunt to just flat out tell her "We're not interested in you, you're too fat." It's nothing new that Roos is obsessed by people being to fat. Even back in the days of his column in the WWF magazine, it was alla bout "X would be great if he would get in shape and loose some weight". That and "the cruiserweight division could be so good and deserves more", were the two regular bullshit lines of JR's columns. Now, that said, maybe it's just Vince fucking with him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Kharma seems to have problems anywhere she works, though. TNA mistreated her, and now the WWE, albeit a much shorter time, has also mistreated her. Maybe she needs to become a writer. She's a black, fat, woman. I'm not saying anything, but still, I can't help of thinking about things, since her issues with TNA had to do with Bubba's racist remarks toward haitians. WWE have made fun of Molly Holly and Mickie James supposed "weight" and "shape". They've fired Dawn Marie while she was pregnant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I forgot about the Molly Holly angle. With Lawler encouraging people to chant "She's a fat ass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Heh, kinda amused this is becoming a story now since the "Kong got rejected from WWE for being too fat" story has been around for like 8 or 9 years. Double funny since anyone paying even a tiny amount of attention to what types of girls the company hires should have been able to figure out their mentality anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJH Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Of course it's Vince fucking with him. If it was Prichard, Ace, or Vince in that spot they'd've said the exact same thing. But like Flik said, does her being rejected due to her size surprise anyone? Ultimately, she's done well for herself, and I think it's actually worked out better for her in the long run. "Meltdown" aside, she's been used much better than any girl has in years. I think the segment on Monday worked really well and it's almost a shame that they can't capitalise on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'm pretty sure JR has been pretty good with the money he's made in the wrestling business, and even if he wasn't his sauce business seems to be going pretty good for him. That being the case, why does he stay associated with a company that seems to devote an oddly disproportionate amount of time to fucking with him when he's not even a regular TV character anymore? It's almost like JR has battered woman syndrome and can't leave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 That being the case, why does he stay associated with a company that seems to devote an oddly disproportionate amount of time to fucking with him when he's not even a regular TV character anymore?I'm assuming because even when he does show up to get Cole's foot stuck in his mouth, or whatever, his JR'S BBQ label is pointing at the hard cam the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 but isn't the TV mindset that wrestling fans are all poor and stupid so there's no point advertising your product on WWE tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I have no idea what the mindset is. If they can afford a ticket and a t-shirt, the reality is they can afford a bottle of BBQ sauce. By the way, I have bought and tried JR's BBQ. It tastes to me just like the kind in the little packets from McDonald's. That's not really a good thing. It also scorches when you grill with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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