NintendoLogic Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I noticed the piece had a surprising number of typos, a telltale sign of a rush job. It felt to me like his priority was being the first one out the gate with his hot take so he could pat himself on the back for being a prophet if he turned out to be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World's Worst Man Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The fact that the cause of death being covid or not is such an issue just shows how much this situation has broken people's brains. This Bruce Mitchell shit might be the worst I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: I noticed the piece had a surprising number of typos, a telltale sign of a rush job. It felt to me like his priority was being the first one out the gate with his hot take so he could pat himself on the back for being a prophet if he turned out to be right. I don’t know if he is one of those WWE Fanboys waiting to pounce on a major AEW misstep, in order to not just call them out for doing things they take shots at WWE for, but to shout “SEE! THEY ARE JUST AS SCUMMY AS THE “EVIL EMPIRE” IS!” but yeah that seems about right for what he wrote. I use the idea that lesser public people and companies have been vilified for lack of transparency based on where we are right now in the pandemic, so I can see the “gotcha” mentality bubbling to the surface so they can claim “justification” if proven correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, SteveJRogers said: I don’t know if he is one of those WWE Fanboys waiting to pounce on a major AEW misstep, in order to not just call them out for doing things they take shots at WWE for, but to shout “SEE! THEY ARE JUST AS SCUMMY AS THE “EVIL EMPIRE” IS!” but yeah that seems about right for what he wrote. I use the idea that lesser public people and companies have been vilified for lack of transparency based on where we are right now in the pandemic, so I can see the “gotcha” mentality bubbling to the surface so they can claim “justification” if proven correct. Bruce is definitely not a WWE fan boy at all. Bruce's long-held position is that the entire Wrestling industry should have shutdown completely over COVID concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Meltzer said on today's WOR that COVID can be categorically ruled out because he was tested before every AEW event as well as many times in the hospital and tested negative every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Would be nice if the Mitchell stuff could be split into it's own topic. I have nothing to add other than I've never liked that guy. He's had shitty takes for 30 years. I knew people would have questions about why/how he died, I have questions, but talk about f'n low rent and classless bullshit from a supposedly "respected" "journalist". I'm sure more information will come out in due time, but can we wait til his fucking body is cold? I guess 2020 wouldn't be complete without a good pro rasslin covid conspiracy theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wade Keller fired Bruce Mitchell today and issued an apology to the Huber family: https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2020/12/29/editors-note-concerning-a-published-column-regarding-the-death-of-jon-huber/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, SirEdger said: Wade Keller fired Bruce Mitchell today and issued an apology to the Huber family: https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2020/12/29/editors-note-concerning-a-published-column-regarding-the-death-of-jon-huber/ Sad to see it come to that, but Bruce doubling down like an arrogant twat presumably left Wade no choice. I assume Dave will scoop him up, which would be a disastrous mistake IMO, but he'll have to deal with those consequences (I could see AEW/Khan completely cutting off access to Dave - Meltzer Driver or not - if that happened). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Yeah. I honestly feel bad for Wade. Seems like he had to clean up Bruce's mess and Bruce just wouldn't STFU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just last month Bruce Mitchell just started working for Conrad Thompson's Ad Free Shows Subscription Service, doing a daily news update podcast. "Bruce Mitchell's Wrestling Hotline." He hasn't missed a day since it started, but there was no episode yesterday, and there wasn't one today either. I wonder if Conrad gave him the boot as well. Not for nothing, but the podcast is hot garbage. I stopped listening after two minutes into the first episode...which consisted of him bragging about his credentials. And the audio quality was shit...it sounded like it was recorded on a voice memo recorder, in an airplane bathroom, which had crashed in the ocean and was totally submerged in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if Conrad gave him the boot too; considering the people close to AEW he's doing podcasts with (Tony Schiavone, JR, Arn Anderson), that would be ill-advised to keep a lightning rod like Mitchell on his service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Considering Dave mentioned he was talking to Tony Khan until 3am Jax time about ideas to honor Brodie for the show this week, I don't see him rushing to hire the guy trying to start conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, sek69 said: Considering Dave mentioned he was talking to Tony Khan until 3am Jax time about ideas to honor Brodie for the show this week, I don't see him rushing to hire the guy trying to start conspiracy theories. Yeah Dave and Bryan isn't going to cut bait with the one thing he has ridden his horse on for about 4 years. And Bruce doesn't seem like a guy that will tow the company line for the good of the business. Unless you can convince him how "best for business" it is. The thing that worries me is that Bruce will get even more desperate and start following parts of the wrestling community that absolutely love to stir shit regardless on consequences. I guess we will see what a uncontrolled Bruce Mitchell really is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Fuck Bruce/Snowden. I don’t give a fuck if you “can” print it. Doesn’t mean you should. On a positive note, the way AEW is doing their tribute is very very cool. Letting Brodie’s son “book” his own dream tag is so awesome. That show is going to be hard to watch, but I can’t wait to see it. I’m about the same age as Brodie and my kids are about the same age as his. I’m not going to pretend I’m some huge fan of his, but I liked him a lot. His death has hit me pretty hard. I’m just so sad for his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 2010 Bruce Mitchell would rake 2020 Bruce Mitchell over the coals so hard. Just so there's no confusion or ambiguity Cash is reposting Amanda Huber's (Brodie's wife) Instagram post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Of all the people in wrestling media and its related offshoots to have a career altering meltdown in 2020, Bruce would have not been anywhere near the top of that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 No idea why I ventured onto Bruce's Twitter (I don't follow him anymore). I'm too curious for my own good, I guess. He's posting song lyrics and, well, this... WTF is he talking about? @rovert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 That downward spiral is coming up fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted December 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 If he had just said "Sorry, I fucked up", he would still have a job and would not be the most hated guy on wrestling Twitter. Brodie's son being called -1 is adorable. He seems like wrestling is his entire life. I watched a Brodie-Kingston match from Chikara today. Man, Brodie was so so great for so so long, it's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 11 hours ago, C.S. said: I assume Dave will scoop him up, which would be a disastrous mistake IMO, but he'll have to deal with those consequences (I could see AEW/Khan completely cutting off access to Dave - Meltzer Driver or not - if that happened). What would he have to offer the Observer anyway? I've never been a Torch guy as it is, but isn't Mitchell a columnist as opposed to a reporter? The newsletter is Dave's baby and although the likes of Pat Laprade, Kurt Brown and Phil Lions have written pieces (usually obits or historical stuff) I can't see Dave being prepared to give over a section every week to Bruce, especially when Dave seemingly struggles to get everything in as it is. I do remember the Observer having a columnist in the early 2000s (Ben something or other maybe), but it didn't last long, plus I read the Observer for Dave's opinions no-one elses. Could he offer anything on the audio side of things? I doubt it. Even if Dave wanted to hire his pal, Bryan is clued up and savvy enough to know it wouldn't be good/wise business. Completely off topic, but I would be interested to know how the Torch does in comparison to the Observer. Clearly not a metric to go on, but Wade has approx. 200,000 less Twitter followers than Dave and I never see the Torch mentioned on any forums I go. Heck, this is probably the most pub the Torch has gotten since Moxley gave Wade his first interview after leaving WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, MoS said: If he had just said "Sorry, I fucked up", he would still have a job and would not be the most hated guy on wrestling Twitter. Brodie's son being called -1 is adorable. He seems like wrestling is his entire life. I watched a Brodie-Kingston match from Chikara today. Man, Brodie was so so great for so so long, it's crazy. I don't think he even needed to do that. He just needed to shut his mouth and leave social media for a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 9 hours ago, GSR said: What would he have to offer the Observer anyway? Nothing IMO. But Dave loves Bruce and even named "The Mitchell Rule" (or something like that) after him. I was thinking Bruce would be used more for the website - columns, podcasts, etc. - than the actual newsletter. When I last subscribed to the Torch a few months ago, the newsletter seemed like an afterthought - it was 90% show results and 10% old news - with the website and podcasts in particular being the real focus. I have no idea if the Observer is the same way now. The Torch was much better a decade ago and seems like a shell of its former self now - at least if you're like me and only interested in the newsletter (Torch Talks, once the bread and butter, are nonexistent now) and don't care about podcasts. Needless to say, I didn't renew after the month was up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Dave still puts a lot of the same effort into the Observer. Even with instant access you still get the most detailed breakdown of stuff in the actual Observer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 I'd have to imagine, as others have pointed out, that Meltzer is well aware of how toxic Bruce is right now and, even if he was a reporter and not a columnist, I'm guessing most of his sources are going to steer clear of him right now too. Plus, what sources would Mitchell have that Meltzer wouldn't? And if Dave wanted to bring in a columnist to share their opinion in longform columns, he could probably find someone as good, with as much knowledge, with as good writing skill on this very forum - and not cost himself any subscribers in the process. If there was once the feeling that no articulate, self-respecting writer would ever cover pro-wrestling, that died at least a decade and a half ago. In fact, to me, the real missing piece is a centralized hub where quality writers can converge to share their longform opinions/columns that isn't a cesspool of Bray Wyatt fanfic and repetitive "They Should Push ____" rants. Basically The Ringer but for wrestling and with the option for fan-submitted content that was vetted/edited. Does anyone know if this was Mitchell's main source of income? Not to say he didn't deserve to be fired because I think he did, but, I'm just curious considering that major newspapers are downsizing and putting lots and lots of reporters/columnists on the unemployment line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted December 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, DMJ said: Does anyone know if this was Mitchell's main source of income? Not to say he didn't deserve to be fired because I think he did, but, I'm just curious considering that major newspapers are downsizing and putting lots and lots of reporters/columnists on the unemployment line. He used to be a school teacher, but he is retired now. Dylan had a really good line about it on Twitter and it got a genuine LOL out of me - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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