Embrodak Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 If Danielson gets a good match out of Cage, he’s a true visionary. Cage isn’t Warrior bad, but he’s gotta be in the discussion for worst ratio of working ability to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 I guess the point I was trying to make is that being the least cheap heat-getting heel of the 80s is kind of like being the least roided-up face-painted tag team. Cornette may not have gone out and waved the Russian flag, but he wasn't exactly a stickler for good taste. I don't expect Cage/Danielson to be as good as Cage's match with Darby from a couple of years ago, but that's because Bryan has too much sense to go to the lengths Darby did to get the match over. At least, I hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 If Bryan/Cage is as good as Bryan/Big Cass, then we are in for a treat. Cage had a fun hoss battle when they still pretended to care about BIG WARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 Kingston heel turn. Tony really no longer has his finger on the pulse. Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 Eh, Dynamite has been somewhat better recently, and maybe a heel Kingston can get some of his juice back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Embrodak said: maybe a heel Kingston can get some of his juice back Juice he only lost in the first place because of bad feuds and worse creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, C.S. said: Juice he only lost in the first place because of bad feuds and worse creative. Sure, but Shad can’t buy Tony a time machine. But maybe…. He can buy him a Big Red Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:16 AM, Embrodak said: Yeah, there’s stuff there that’s queer-coded, but basically none of it exclusively and unambiguously so. When he was in Mid South, Bill Watts would heavily imply it on commentary to the point he might as well have just come out and said it. By the time he was in JCP it was less "sissy" and more "spoiled rich mama's boy". As for Bryan, I suspect he's going to have another great match since Cage is ridiculous for a guy his size and he can let Bryan steer the ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, sek69 said: When he was in Mid South, Bill Watts would heavily imply it on commentary to the point he might as well have just come out and said it. By the time he was in JCP it was less "sissy" and more "spoiled rich mama's boy". As for Bryan, I suspect he's going to have another great match since Cage is ridiculous for a guy his size and he can let Bryan steer the ship. Yeah but you hardly had to be understood as gay to be insulted and denigrated for perceived effeminacy in the South at that time, or almost anywhere in America outside certain neighborhoods in a few big cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 I shit on Tony Khan so much, so let me also praise him when he has done something to deserve it - I think HOOK and JungleHOOK's booking have been impeccable, and I am really looking forward to watching both Jack Perry and HOOK climb atop the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 This Eddie Kingston shit is just so awful. Love for him always, but otherwise, he is just being misused and ill-treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, MoS said: This Eddie Kingston shit is just so awful. Love for him always, but otherwise, he is just being misused and ill-treated. Sure he is. A few years back he was broke and about to retire, he's now probably making more money than he ever has, is being featured in the second biggest promotion in the world, working with incredible talent on regular basis and just had a match with his idol Jun Akiyama a few months ago. What a mistreatment. See also, Harwood, Dax. Was a heel turn needed ? Nope, but it gives him a new dynamic and he works great as a heel too. So, might as well enjoy him in that role anyway. A heel turn was certainly needed for Saraya though. That's the best thing they could have done with her, on every aspects. In other news, great week of AEW again. Loving the promotion so much again, after a more questionable 2022. (Willie Mack !!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 10 hours ago, sek69 said: When he was in Mid South, Bill Watts would heavily imply it on commentary to the point he might as well have just come out and said it. By the time he was in JCP it was less "sissy" and more "spoiled rich mama's boy". Something similar happened with Brutus Beefcake. The original idea is that he was a gay stripper, which is why he was billed from San Francisco. After he became The Barber, that aspect was downplayed and he actually became a hometown hero to SF crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 Except early on he was billed from parts unknown. SF came later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 19 hours ago, MoS said: I shit on Tony Khan so much, so let me also praise him when he has done something to deserve it - I think HOOK and JungleHOOK's booking have been impeccable, and I am really looking forward to watching both Jack Perry and HOOK climb atop the ladder. Wasn't HOOKhaunsen the hottest thing in the company not so long ago? What happened with that, what did I miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 I think Jungle Hook is a great way to get Hook over and get him more experience in the ring without exposing his green-ness too much. Hookhausen was over, but let’s be real, Hook is not the kind of talent that you let pal around with the comedy goof on Rampage or Dark for a long time. He’s not experienced enough to be the “real worker” who leads the match and sets up the circumstances for the comedy guy to get his schtick in, and given he has genuine potential, it’s a lot more important to get him doing straightforward matches that will really build the muscle memory and intuition he needs to be a singles guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 JungleHOOK might be the first USA-based tag team in ages that are, indeed, heartthrobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 Speaking of Danhausen, he's coming to my local toy store this upcoming weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 You know the main problem right now is they don’t really have a heel tag team with any juice that can get the titles off The Acclaimed. It’s not pressing, they can prob keep them on The Acclaimed until the summer and do these mini Jarrett/Lethal type feuds because they’re still way over, but Top Flight and Jungle Hook don’t necessarily have anywhere to go for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I saw this thread before I saw Rampage, and I'm not convinced that's a Kingston heel turn. It totally depends on whether Ortiz was being genuine, and we don't know that. The crowd also didn't boo him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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