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El Boricua

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  1. I don't recall hearing this either. but you can tell by the way the tidbits are reported and presented who the source of them was. Another example of how the narrative gets shaped about certain wrestlers due to the wrestlers themselves being sources. It gets skewed to their viewpoint or perception of events which makes them the hero of their own tale. And my money would have been on Race if he had shown up for the battle royale.
  2. Keep them coming DeanColes, these are fun to read. Some comments on some of my favorites form this last batch you posted. "STEVE PRAZAK: 'I don't think Vince McMahon could do for Continental what Eddie Gilbert did.' " - 1988 Observer Yearbook Love Eddie Gilbert, this statement I find to be both true and a bit exaggerated since Gilbert would tend to shape the narrative on how his Continental run was reported and presented by the sheets. Lesson to trust but verify when looking back at these since you always have to consider the source for the reporting. Sources tend to be presented as usually faultless or in a good light. "Bill Watts only wants to use young wrestlers now so don't call Vince signing Junkyard Dog a theft. Watts just didn't want him anymore." - Mat Results Vol 3 No 2 Sure Watts didn't want him anymore. It's not like he didn't spend the rest of his time as booker or man in charge trying to recreate the JYD dynamic. ""Vince had been against JYD's dancing until JYD informed him that if you're against that you're against me." - Eastern Wrestling News Nov 84 You tell him JYD. "Flair vs. Rhodes didn't take place because both men thought the money would be low (typical lazy Dusty attitude, too lazy to take a chance and make something happen for the Georgia group)." Eastern Wrestling News Nov 84 I love how it states that both men thought the money would be low and then it's Dusty that gets completely trashed for this happening. Teflon Flair indeed.
  3. I agree with peachchaos, 1991 is likely Jake Roberts best year. It'll never be about the matches with Jake, but in 91 you get the full gamut of Jake Roberts (out for revenge for being blinded Jake, broken hearted looking to avenge his crushed pet Jake, turncoat on Warrior Jake and then the absolutely evil bastard that was trust me Jake in the fall of 91 onwards). Also agree with Rude's 1992, although I'd say it's more that period from November of 91 to Fall of 92. After that the injuries and his refusal to work/put over certain guys just did him in.
  4. They worked a couple of the Aniversario weekend shows this past July. First night against La Revolución, and the second night vs. Thunder & Lightning. No idea about if/when these matches will air on the Super Estrellas tv show.
  5. I don't think it's so much the PC that has to produce stars, they just have to make sure everyone gets the tools they need in order to be competent at the craft and help identify potential. I'd say it's the bookers job to help make stars out of the ones with potential.
  6. LPWA (26 years ago), WOW, TNA, Shimmer, Shine and others already beat them to the punch here, but since these events weren't birthed by the queen godmother of everything female wrestling related in existence they don't count.
  7. There's a match between Gran Apolo and Barrabas from CSP that for some reason aired on TV. They stop cooperating and start coming to blows. https://youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Oafw3JlA
  8. Assuming only singles matches, I'd say probably the Blindfold match (not really joking). Did he have any matches with Tito Santana post-Strike Force break-up that could be in the conversation? Or you know what, maybe the match vs. Razor Ramon for the vacant IC title on Raw in 93.
  9. What's amazing is that, as dawho mentioned earlier, WCW (well, Bischoff and whoever else signed off on this) really didn't have to give Hogan that ridiculous contract he ended up signing in 98, but they still did. Even more amazing, Hogan worked the first five months of 98 without signing that contract, so they could still have realized that it wasn't necessary to give him all of the ridiculous perks and money conditions. And there is value in having Hogan around in WCW (his eventual redemption face run for example and a couple of one off 'dream' matches), but it had to be a Hogan that would be willing to be a special attraction going forward and away from the World title (which wasn't going to happen). Thinking about things (and with the benefit of hindsight), the reality is that a lot of the name top guys in WCW were on their last fumes of relevance as main event guys in 1998 to early 1999. So 1999 should have been a year of these name guys elevating the potential future stars. I mean, what is there really for some of these guys to do after 1998? Hulk Hogan - You can do his redemption face run complete with a return to the red and yellow, maybe including a short final world title reign (which would be a headache to get off him if you give him that). But after that, is there anything really on the table that warrants him being no more than a special attraction that makes sporadic appearances? I mean, if he's not willing to work in feuds that put over rising talent. Ric Flair- He will always have value in WCW, and the figure head President role along with a gradual transition to a more part-time wrestler role is a perfect place for Flair. I mean, you do this once you've taken advantage of how red hot he is after his return, so this transition should be around mid 99. The only thing you have to watch out for is Flair's obsession with having to be the heel Nature Boy striving for the world title or being the champ (he did demand a world title run as a condition for his return and wanted to turn heel a few months after his in ring return, so Flair does have a one-track mind towards being this persona). Plus, one of the few guys where there won't be an issue putting over talent. Kevin Nash & Scott Hall - Let's be honest, you take either of these guys out of the picture after 1998 and WCW is better off for it (would you even miss them?). Hall was already an unreliable waste of roster space and money in 1998, his only value was being involved with Nash. By 99, even that would be gone. And name one productive thing Nash was involved in after 1998 in WCW. Sting - He will always have value in WCW and one of the few professionals in the company who would be easier to work with in terms of helping to put over the next potential stars. Bret Hart - Horribly misused, and although he may have been checked out, still a professional when given something to work with. He's someone that can still give you a couple of years as a main eventer and also help put over the next generation of top guys. Randy Savage - A husk of his former self when he returned in 99. Still had some value if he was paired up to give the rub to someone up and coming. There was a brief period in 99 where it appeared Savage was involved with Mysterio, Konnan and Kidman. Imagine that instead of antagonizing them, Savage actually joined with them. Eventually add Eddie Guerrero to the mix when he returns form injury and Savage could help elevate them by association and then maybe with a short feud with them (as long as he doesn't collapse anyone's lungs). Savage was one of the guys that booked his own stuff though. Roddy Piper- Outside of maybe being paired with Flair as his associate, there really isn't much value in Piper outside a few one-off matches to put guys over (and Piper ahd creative control over his programs so...). It's a similar deal with Warrior if one uses him, maybe just soem short programs to geta few 'dream' matches. DDP still has value but needs to be kept a bit in check. Luger is another one that would have some value putting guys over. Rick Steiner is an absolute cipher to have around, he's another that if he disappears after 98 WCW is better off.
  10. This will be long, it’s July 4th and I had a lot of free time to think things over. It’s an interesting yet frustrating point to pick up from if it is after the Georgia Dome Nitro and Bash at the Beach. There’s a few things that are set in stone now that I wouldn’t have done if I was doing this earlier in the year (neither Hogan or Goldberg would have been World champ at this time and some of the heel/face alignments and alliances would be different), but we’re working with what we’re given as of this date. Let’s see, the title situation is World champ Goldberg, U.S. title is soon to be vacated by Goldberg, World tag champs are Sting & Kevin Nash, TV champ is Booker T (albeit injured and is going on the shelf), and the Cruiserweight champ is Rey Mysterio Jr. (having just returned at Bash at the Beach). Randy Savage is out until spring of 99 (so he can’t figure in any of these plans) and Ric Flair is back in the fall. All right, let’s divide this by topic. Priorities would be identifying who I want to highlight for the rest of the year and have a plan to build towards Starrcade and set up potential directions for the beginning of 99 (both go hand in hand to a degree). To have any success in implementing what I feel should be done, I’m going to have to figure out how to manage the inmates that are convinced that it is their right to run the entire asylum (easier said than done). But if Goldberg has just won the World title, then we’re running with him on top, all in with that direction. He’s defending the World title at Starrcade and there are a few options for his potential opponent. The other things in the pipeline for the rest of the year are to try to bring some closure to the nWo factions feud and try to keep the potential future stars visible and relevant while the main even scene gets sorted. What to do with Goldberg? The World title stays on Goldberg all the way to Starrcade. He needs to be given higher profile matches on the PPVs and on TV must be fed better quality opponents in terms of card placement than what he was getting. Outline for Goldberg at PPVs is as follows: · Road Wild – Goldberg teams with DDP and Leno vs. Hogan, Giant and Bischoff (I presume there’s no getting out of the Leno deal at this point since negotiations had been ongoing for weeks, might as well have Goldberg get the publicity rub) · Fall Brawl – successful title defense vs. Giant · Halloween Havoc – successful title defense vs. DDP (who earned the title shot by winning War Games); in a reality where there existed a possibility where the Hogan rematch could occur with Hogan jobbing I would have done that match here, but that reality doesn’t exist, even in fantasy) · World War 3 – successful title defense vs. Jericho to provide a payoff to that angle, pre-match is jumped and has a brawl with Bigelow, to sneak in some doubt if Jericho may have a shot at the upset but he gets flattened anyway · Starrcade – defeats the winner of World War 3 There are a few ways to go with Goldberg at Starrcade, but I’d think my choice would be Bret Hart (who would need to be built up for this). Sting won’t be around after October to really build this match for this year, so I’ll pencil that in for Starrcade 99. What to do with Hogan? I would prefer he be kept away from Goldberg and the World title to minimize (or try to minimize) sabotaging. Goldberg already beat Hogan. I don’t see the need for a rematch without buildup or reason, at least not in 1998 (Hogan will argue otherwise since he wants his win back). I’d tentatively pencil that match for SuperBrawl 99 (see if the promise of having that match at that point is enough for Hogan to go along with the suggested possibilities for Starrcade). The closest I’m willing to do for Hogan vs. Goldberg 2 in 1998 is the previously mentioned six-man tag main event at Road Wild. After Road Wild, Hogan is kept busy with Warrior feud through Halloween Havoc (as it happened). After this he’ll have two options for Starrcade, do the match vs. Nash or the rubber match vs. Warrior. Or maybe even a tag match with a partner (likely The Giant) vs. either opponent and a partner (Nash reunited with Hall or Warrior with a returning Sting). If Hogan doesn’t want to do any of these options, he can go sit at home (I am not doing him vs. Goldberg again in 1998 no matter how much Hogan insists). My preference is for it to be Hogan vs. Nash at Starrcade, but we’ll see if the promise of Hogan vs. Goldberg at Superbrawl in 1999 is enough for him to acquiesce to the plan. What to do with Nash and Hall? Another similar case as Hogan, must keep him occupied to minimize any sabotaging attempts. The nWo faction feud has been a jumbled mess up to this point, but it’s my best bet to keep Nash and Hall contained while I continue to push Goldberg. Since I’m stuck with Sting in the Wolfpac at this point, I’m going to keep Hall on team Hollywood to keep a better balance on both sides for the time being. Hall and Giant beat Sting and Nash for the tag titles and Road Wild sees a four on four Uncensored 97 main event style match between Hollywood and Wolfpack members, won by the Wolfpack. Fall Brawl is the three team War Games where DDP gets the title shot. This match isn’t great, but it helps contain a lot of people that I either want to contain or provide an impetus for changing their direction (DDP, Sting and Bret Hart specifically). Throw in a fourth member for each team (Hall, Konnan and a TBD for WCW since Booker T is injured). Nash vs. Hall occurs as it happened at Halloween havoc, then events occur at WW3 that see Hall start to realign with Nash. Nash gets eliminated in WW3 by his Starrcade opponent (Hogan or Giant). After Starrcade, Hall officially rejoins Nash and with a couple of recruits from team Hollywood and they form the nWo Elite, which needs to be used to put over Goldberg and some of the up and coming talent before the kibosh Is finally put on the nWo. By the way, for anyone looking to drop Hall vs. Nash, you get your chance to do so on the first Nitro after Bash at the Beach. That’s when Hogan dresses down Hall for dropping the ball at the Georgia Dome and when they have the match Nash shows up to save Hall. In reality Hall attacked Nash after he made the save, but if you’re inclined you can have them reunite here. What to do with Bret Hart? He’s been mishandled horribly so far, but he’s one of the better bets at helping the potential future star talent work through to that top tier. I need to rebuild him before he’s in a position to help with that goal. Let him win the US title and defend against a variety of opponents on TV throughout the late summer and early fall. Try to move away from being an nWo associate, he severs ties following a similar pattern as the blow-up after War Games (but remaining heel when he resents Sting for interfering in his long-awaited Hogan match on Nitro). From there, feud with Sting which sees Sting put on the shelf at Halloween Havoc. An association is formed with Jericho and Hart decides to set his sights on the World title (held by Goldberg). DDP beats Bret for the US title, but is attacked post-match. Bret follows a similar pattern as in real life of attacking and injuring different opponents. He wins WW3 to get the tile shot. Although Bret gets a pulled groin during this time, he can be given the month off from wrestling (but still appearing to cut promos) in order to work the match at Starrcade. The gap is filled by Bret revealing that he is the one that brought in Bigelow to help soften up Goldberg before Starrcade. Warrior would be used to keep Hogan busy (there’s value in that) and then see if it’s possible to get some of the unique matchup opportunities him being in WCW provides (Sting, Goldberg chief among them). Piper would be used sparingly in a similar role, for 1999 maybe he can be convinced to do the program Raven wanted and then replace Mongo in the Horsemen to set up the breakup and a feud that will hopefully help push Benoit and Malenko. Ric Flair would be brought back by making a surprise run in save at Fall Brawl where he attacks Hennig and Rude and they both go on the shelf. The next night we get the official Four Horsemen reunion with Bischoff not wanting to reinstate Flair. Eventually Bischoff is goaded into a making match at Halloween Havoc where the three active Horsemen will face three nWo Hollywood members. Horsemen win, Flair is reinstated. However, since Bischoff’s goons outnumber the Horsemen, Flair will bring in Barry Windham as back-up. At WW3, Benoit and Malenko defeat Hall and Giant for the World tag titles. Hall is blamed for the loss and is attacked, leading to him eventually rejoining Nash. Windham turns on Flair during WW3 or the next night. This leads to Flair vs. Windham at Starrcade, where if Flair wins he gets an immediate match with Bischoff. Flair defeats Windham but loses to Bischoff when a retuning Hennig interferes (this at least makes Flair’s loss more palatable). The next night we get Flair going nuts and challenging Bischoff to a rematch with the presidency on the line which Flair wins. As for new potential star talent, the reality is that with Goldberg now the champ and the insularity of certain main even names with regards to who they will work with, it will be hard to try to push these guys in 1998, but they need to be kept visible and relevant in order to mover them up in 1999. · DDP ends the year with the US title positioned to drop it to either Jericho or Bret Hart. · Chris Jericho would win the TV title from an injured Booker T the night after Bash at the Beach and form an association with Bret Hart. He does the Goldberg feud with a payoff at WW3. He then loses the TV tile to Konnan and is set up to potentially dethrone DDP in 99 or team with Hart in occasional tag matches. Hopefully this is enough to convince him to stay. · Booker T, once he returns from injuries, should be pushed and set up to feud with whoever dethrones DDP as US champ. · Chris Benoît and Dean Malenko will be given a more active role as Four Horsemen, winning the World tag titles at WW3. By early 99 they should be in a position to have matches with the US title contenders while setting up Horsemen breakup angle where they are put over by flair and Piper during the summer of 99. · I’d try to start the lWo angle earlier to try to give Eddie Guerrero a more visible place on TV. I’d follow a similar pattern as it happened and hopefully be able to integrate and push Eddie when he returns after his car accident. · Rey Mysterio can follow a similar pattern as happened in 98, but by 99 he keeps his mask and is moved out of the cruiserweight division (either teaming with Konnan or at the TV title level). · Scott Steiner, is really more of a 2000 project. People tend to forget that he’s due to return at the end of July form injury and doesn’t really wrestle much until the fall of 98. He’s stuck in that never-ending feud with Rick, but starts to get a clearer identity the final months of 98. He can be given the TV title, but then he’s out from late April of 99 to year’s end. Can’t really figure him too much other than to feature him while he’s active and hope his body holds up for a 2000 push. The most important thing is not to lose the forest for the trees in terms of the WWF catching in the ratings. That obsession really got WCW in trouble and they forgot to focus on what they were doing as a company.
  11. Valentine was one of the guys who celebrated Sting's title win at Starrcade 97.
  12. Was the Worlds Collide tag match Art Barr's last match? If it is then it qualifies.
  13. I'd say that you could make a good short list of candidates just going by who got the honor of being captain or co-captain for the Survivor Series teams from 88-90, was around for most of the time period and was mainly a face during the years in question. The other criteria I'd use is who got an extended program with Andre during that time. So I'd guess I would go Hogan, Warrior, Roberts, Demolition and Duggan, with Dusty and Beefcake also bubbling under. Piper, when he was active during this period which was only a about nine months, would probably be third when active. it gets interesting when you go to 90-91, Hogan and Warrior are still top two, but then you could make an argument that maybe Bossman could be three.
  14. In my opinion, the best fit for Braun's partner was Curt "The Human Projectile" Hawkins. That would have allowed for some fun ways for the story to unfold and given you an easy fall guy for getting the belts back on The Bar the next night.
  15. A Cadillac Eldorado.
  16. I'd say this is exactly what they should have done with Reigns and because they didn't it's been what it's been for him these past few years. I think they went in too hard a year early for Reigns and it's been biting them ever since in getting him the reaction he should get.
  17. Which worked because Vince knew when to get his comeuppance and was not presented as Austin's equal on a physical combat level. Nothing in Steph's presentation these past few years leads me to believe that she will be allowed to look bad or weak, so... I don't think this will work like they want it to.
  18. El Boricua

    Royal Rumble 2018

    Stacy's post is absolutely wonderful, it encapsulates that feeling when everything just goes right for what we are a fan of. May we all be able to experience something on that glorious level of pro wrestling fandom. Missed the pre-show but was able to watch the main show (yay electric power ). I haven't really been able to follow what's been going on with WWE these past months outside of some written comments I've seen online, so I'm going into this a bit cold. I thought the WWE title match was good for what it was, AJ came out looking great from it. The Usos vs. Benjamin-Gable struck me as tone-deaf in the way it was laid out and worked. It's a two out of three falls match and they work it with signature move kick outs in the first fall. They work on one of the Usos legs and it's inconsequential to even leading to any fall for Benjamin and Gable. Too long to even get to the first fall. And it just seemed wrong to have the Uso taken out by that double team move to the floor standing right back up like nothing happened a minute later on the ramp after the match was over. Just tone-deaf. I don't know if they've done this in previous by the numbers videos, but i was glad to see that they are finally acknowledging that winning from 1 and 2 are equally impressive since they both start at the same time. I liked the men's rumble match, even if it was uneven and has some of the symptoms that have plagued many of the recent rumbles. Liked Rusev and Balor starting it off and that Rusev immediately went to work trying to eliminate Balor. Corbin going berserk was okay, but it did lead to something that annoys me about the rumble nowadays, people resting on the outside for long periods of time (although it did allow Elias to do a song). Nice to see Almas in the rumble (and do a good showing) and it makes sense to give a spot to the NXT champ. They paid off the Heath Slater story brilliantly when he eliminated Sheamus. The entrance times were notably screwy. Sometimes it isn't obvious, but here you had guys coming in and just seconds after the countdown timer would come on screen. It was a bit distracting because it was too obvious. While Kofi's launch into the ring was impressive, it's past the point of ridiculousness how they said he hasn't touched the floor by standing on the pancakes. Although I did love Jinder getting assaulted with pancakes after being eliminated. Sad that Rusev got eliminated by two guys that eliminated themselves afterwards. Nice touch with everyone ganging up on Cena and with Reigns tossing out Rollins. Cena being the only one to still do the sign point was funny to me, but they really need to give that a rest. The middle portion felt too filler-y, but they kept it too a manageable number of people in the ring. The Hurricane was fine for a comedy spot since it appears that he really wasn't taking up a spot from someone better fit for the match. REY MYSTERIO! Best surprise entrant ever or best surprise entrant ever. It was also nice to see Randy Orton getting one of the returning legend spots. Why is Ziggler still around wasting our time. The final six onwards was well done if a bit long. Congrats to Nakamura, though if he doesn't turn it up for a WWE title match at Wrestlemania then it's time to write him off. Overall a good rumble, although not one of the best ever as I've seen some are proclaiming it elsewhere (I thought the women's rumble was a better rumble match). Boy was the crowd dead for the Raw tag title match. Should have been shortened and the highlight was the Jason Jordan character work. The Universal title threat was what it we expected it to be. It did manage to get the crowd back up after being burned out. I was a bit wary of the women's rumble match coming into the show. Then the news bits kept dropping, first Stephanie was going to be commentating, then the rumors that Rousey could be in it and win it, then the tidbit that the women's rumble was closing the show. Each of these tidbits made me even more wary of the match. Ever since the WWE decided to make "Women's Revolution" a brand to sell and to show how progressive they are being , it has suffered at different points from being forced and inorganic, which can be more damaging than helpful to what your trying to do. It is and always is a disservice to the performers to put them in spots where all that matters first is the self serving interests from those in charge, in this case all the narrative of making history (or 'changing history' for some reason) and patting themselves on the back for it. I was wary of Stephanie amking it all bout herself, I was wary of Rousey showing up and winning when that runs counter to the 'brand narrative' (and frankly, Rousey doesn't need this to be a big deal), and I was wary that being given the show closing spot would set expectations way too high or feel forced only for the reason of 'we're making history'. This had all the makings of collapsing on the weight of all these expectations and masters to serve. And, thankfully, I was completely wrong to be wary. They handled this perfectly. A really good rumble match and it managed to serve the intent of having a good match, showcasing you current stars, paying respect to the history of the women's division (without anyone really looking out of place) and with Ronda showing upa t the end, of course you have an organic reason for why they closed the show. Sasha and Becky were perfectas numbers 1 and 2. The returning legends /divas played their roles well and added immensely to the match. The constant rolling out of the ring was distracting, especially when they took forever to get back in. I thought it was weird that McCool got so many eliminations. i thought it was because she was Mrs. taker, but I read someone's point that it was probably because McCool was on the few ladies tall enough to be able to pull off the eliminations (which absolutely makes sense). Almost everyone got some shine and the match never lagged. I liked the finish with Asuka just taking Nikki's knee out to eliminate her. Ronda 'Sign Point' Rousey debuting after the match was the right call. The rumble matches make or break the rumble event, and this one was great based on the two rumble matches.
  19. Hey, can't have this historic moment without the creator of women's wrestling reminding us that she is in fact the Susan B. Anthony of WWE .
  20. I've gotten back to listening to some of the podcasts I've missed and noticed that I was mentioned by Kriz during the WWC section. I also don't remember at the moment if the discussion was on air or off, but to confirm and clarify, I did mention in my conversation with Kris and Dylan that, to the general population, the belief is that Invader was not at fault since he was found not guilty by the court. Setting aside any trial legitimacy misgivings that one may have (depending on if you believe there was some shadiness a foot and how much), you have to remember that the general population only has what was presented as the story of events that occurred during the trial as well as the final verdict. In a world where kayfabe was still alive and where you have the information presented at face value (with not much of a reason to doubt it or dig further), most people just accept that it was self defense. That is not to say that there aren't people that feel the whole thing was a travesty, but to the regular joe on the street around at that time, you go with what is given as the reason. He was found not guilty, so it must be what they say happened. Again, this is just mentioning the reality of how the general public viewed it at the time and many still do (at least from a certain generation, those that have come of age online may and probably have a different viewpoint). Heck, there are people that claim that Invader didn't do it, that he was the one that took the rap because he stood a better chance of being acquitted than whoever it was that did it. I honestly believe we will never get a real account of what really happened. As to some of the other talking points: I know that everyone is suspicious of the trial being postponed until Jan. 24 (I believe the original date was Jan. 3), but from my view I think people ask the wrong question about this. What I find odd is not so much that the trial was postponed, it is more why was it scheduled to start Jan. 3 to begin with. I've always said that the crowds falling off because of Brody dying is overblown. It's been stated by others that it was the direct cause of the fall-off, but it's hard to back that up by looking at the crowds I've talked before about what Embry's said (I think on the Steve Austin podcast thread). I remain skeptical about some of his claims (specifically about the phone call he received), but do not know if his claim that Jovica drunkenly told him of the amount paid to get off Invader is true or not. As an aside, a poster at the Puerto Rico wrestling history Facebook group has disputed Embry's claim but not in regards to Jovica telling him that. What he disputes is Embry's claim of how much Jovica said he paid off , with the poster saying 'a case wasn't worth that amount of money back then'. Rick Martel i think also appeared at the December 88 year end shows. Supposedly there was a La Gran Guerra match which featured Colon-TNT-Martel-Ron Starr vs. Ayala-Chicky-Jason the Terrible-Ron Garvin. It's also the card Tatsumi Fujinami appeared on. Having typed those names, it also seems that the narrative of talent boycotting the island may be also overblown (not that it didn't happen, but not to the degree that it's sometimes presented of nobody daring to go there). Actually, Hercules Ayala did leave the promotion after this match. I think he moved to Canada. He would come back for some weekend shots in 1991 before joining the AWF. Steve Strong would come in to take his spot in Chicky Starr's stable shortly after this match.
  21. There will be four teams in the semifinals. The three that advance and one second chance team selected by fan vote (although not sure if it's from all of the eliminated teams or just those eliminated in the quarterfinals).
  22. I unfortunately wasn't able to submit a ballot for this due to my present situation, but I'll enjoy following the reveal process. There's been fun comments and reveals so far, with some of the snark being top notch.
  23. Yes, the attack post match was what blinded Colon leading to the Universal title being vacated and fears that Colon would be blind for life (and obviously that his career was over). Colon would recover and came back to face Abdullah at the Venganza al Atardecer card. This also is what setup the Universal title tournament for Aniversario 86.
  24. I'm hoping I'll be able to watch the Rumble this year (hoping I get power restored by then), but all I want is for the rumble matches themselves to be entertainingly booked. Won't try to predict who will win, but I'd like for it to be Rusev and Becky Lynch.
  25. The Secret Santo?
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