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I have just watched Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi from Jan 24th 2015. I felt for a 6 minute match, it was a whole heap of fun. (See below) It got me thinking, what are some great sub 10 minute matches? Off the top of my head, I'd go with: Hashimoto v Zangiev from 4/24/89 Tiger Mask vs. Dynamite Kid from 8/30/80 Owen Hart vs. 123 Kid from KOTR 94 6/19/94 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzmseo_owen-hart-vs-1-2-3-kid-semi-final-king-of-the-ring-1994_sport Daisuke Ikeda vs. Takeshi Ono from 10/26/14 KENTA vs. Ricky Marvin from 10/15/09 There's also the Lawler vs. Snowman match that was so different to anything else at the time.

I thought I'd create a list of Wrestling Podcasts that I listen to from time to time: Talk Is Jericho - http://podcastone.com/Talk-Is-Jericho Wrestling Observer Radio - F4D, Lance Storm, Tom Lawler, Bryan Vinny show etc http://www.f4wonline.com/ The Law - http://fightnetwork.com/law/ Voices Of Wrestling - http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/category/podcast/ Between The Ropes - http://www.betweentheropes.com/category/podcasts/ Pro Wrestling Torch - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pro-wrestling-torch Steven Austin Show - http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show Jim Ross Report - http://podcastone.com/The-Ross-Report P2B Place to Be Wrestling Podcast - http://placetobe.podbean.com/ Stevie Knight Podcast - http://www.stevieknight.info/ Angry Marks Radio - http://angrymarks.com/podcasts/ The Indy Corner - http://theindycorner.podomatic.com/ Mauro Ranallo - https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mauro-ranallo/id629242101?mt=2 Wrestling With Depression - http://www.wrestlingwithdepression.com/ Art Of Wrestling - Colt Cabana - http://tsmradio.com/coltcabana/ The Pro Wrestling Opinion Show - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theprowrestlingopinionshow OVER THE TOP RADIO~! - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cutrer DDP Radio - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ddpradio Titans Of Wrestling - http://placetobenation.com/titans-of-wrestling/ Wrestling With The Past - http://placetobenation.com/author/wrestling-with-the-past/ Wrestling Across Ameria - http://placetobenation.com/author/wrestlingacrossamerica/ Where The Big Boys Play - http://placetobenation.com/category/podcasts/where-the-big-boys-play/ Good Will Wrestling - http://placetobenation.com/author/goodwill-wrestling-podcast/ Wrestling Culture - http://placetobenation.com/wrestling-culture/ Interesting People Talking Wrestling - http://martinhines.podbean.com/ Wrestling Eye Podcast (cheap plug!) - http://wrestlingeye.libsyn.com/ Jim Cornette Experience - http://www.jimcornette.com/podcasts The Kevin Kelly Show - http://placetobenation.com/author/kkshow/ Wrestlenomics Radio - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/indeedwrestling Shake Them Ropes - http://shakethemropes.libsyn.com Human Podcast Machine (Taz) - https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/human-podcast-machine-taz/id951166132?mt=2# Talking Sheet - http://www.sheetsandwich.com/talking-sheet/ Between The Sheets - http://placetobenation.com/category/podcasts/between-the-sheets/ Woooo! Nation - http://www1.play.it/audio/wooooo-nation-with-ric-flair/ Most can also be found via iTunes etc. as well most likely, and most will have .rss feeds if you hunt around on the individual sites. This obviously isn't an all encompassing list, but ones I personally enjoy. If anyone has any other suggestions please add to this thread.

I think it's pointless adding anyone else. Dave's not going to put Jim Breaks back on either, rightly or wrongly.

I've had US voters reach me out to me privately who wanted me to convince them to vote Daddy, so it's more than "the lulz".

I couldn't vote for anyone else really until either Pallo or Daddy got it. Rocco really doesn't have an actual HoF case, he's a level down in my eyes.

I had him on the first draft of my ballot this year, then after more thought, felt he should go on the ballot with David and Kevin rather than as singularly.

GREAT Episode! Especially the Other USA and WCW sections with Scott Bowden.

My ballot: I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES X Sputnik Monroe Enrique Torres Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff Johnny "Wrestling II" Walker Bearcat Wright Wild Bull Curry I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES X Junkyard Dog I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE/AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND/PACIFIC ISLANDS/AFRICA X Big Daddy Jackie Pallo Mario Milano NON-WRESTLERS Stanley Weston Jim Crockett Jr. Howard Finkel Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett

New Jack was one of the best promos in Pro Wrestling during this period.

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Managed to listen to Episode 3: Memphis Quick Hits, and really enjoyed it. Plenty of little nuggets of information I didn't know as well as Jerry saying exactly what he thought of everyone brought up, pretty much as candid as I'd hope. Great work Sean, you and Jerry have a good rapport and looking forward to listening to more shows.

This is wonderful news. You have my buy in and full support.

You don't think there's a huge difference of talent between a guy who's able to execute a script and a guy who's able to put his own match together or even call it in the ring ? There is but since we arent privy to the details of how matches are put together most of the time, I can only call what I see. Even if you know you're comparing Apples to Oranges if you're comparing a New Japan match vs. a WWE match based on one having no agent layout / input vs. one that you know does?

If the footage was available I'd probably say Bockwinkel.

A great listen!

On the latest WOR he suggested Bryan leaving in September wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea.

Pitbull Johnson Well seeing that gimp being mentioned on here was unexpected. He bought some shows from Hammerlock when I was there in 1996. They were 'interesting' to say the least. Not least for him sitting taking money at the door, writing TICKITT in big letters on a lined pad, then tearing the pages off and handing them to the bemused punters. Not before trying to flog them promo pictures of himself standing in his garden, with a garden gnome and his neighbours looking over the fence in the background. He was from Sheerness, on the Isle of Sheppey, but couldn't pronounce the letter H, so ended up being from Seerness, on the Isle of Seppey. He also formed a very popular up and coming tag team with Alex Sane, called the Seppey Lads. He also advertised a ladder match as the main event of one show, then forgot to bring the ladder. Hammerlock MC Dean Ayass officially became my hero on that night, as he called Pitbull out to the ring before the main event. He thought Dean was going to thank him for all his efforts in promoting the show, etc. Dean then said "Now, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, we were supposed to have a ladder match for you here tonight. Unfortunately, we haven't got that match for you tonight....and here to explain why is Ian 'Pitbull' Johnson." Dean then handed him the microphone and watched him stand there like a deer caught in the headlights for about a minute, before he finally stammered "Errrr, forgot the ladder". He was also arrested whilst on the run from the law, when he promoted a wrestling show and put himself all over the posters. He couldn't work out how they'd found him! Memories I remember you telling me about this back in the day.

Wonderful thread.

Bruno Sammartino was someone who transcended Pro Wrestling, a true cultural icon. RIP

I thought the show was solid and consistent throughout. It was better than I expected, and to be fair it had no hope of delivering what we got for WK11, however I felt some of the booking choices were odd. I guess I'll have to wait and see how they play out, but honestly, what a waste of Jay White if he wasn't going to go over Tanahashi.

I love this place. Thank you to Charles and others for making this my favourite community. Friendly people talking pro wrestling. Happy holidays guys.

1. Tetsuya Naito 2. WALTER 3. Zack Sabre Jr. 4. Roman Reigns 5. Kazuchika Okada 5. Kenny Omega 6. David Starr 8. Timothy Thatcher 9. Johnny Gargano 10. Braun Strowman

Just got my ballot, here it is in full. ----------------------------------- It's time for the 2017 Hall of Fame elections. This ballot is being sent out to major wrestling stars, past and present, major management figures in the industry, writers and historians. If you are getting this, you are being asked your opinion on who should be inducted into this year's Hall of Fame class. The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. A candidate should either have something to offer in all three categories, or be someone so outstanding in one or two of those categories that they deserve inclusion. The names listed below are those under consideration for this year. To be eligible, a performer must have reached their 35th birthday and completed ten years since their debut as a full-time performer, or be someone who has been a full-time pro wrestler for at least 15 years. Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless. The election is broken down into a number of categories. You should check each category for wrestlers that you feel you are familiar enough with based on geography that you've either traveled or are familiar with, and based on the time you have followed pro wrestling. You do not have to vote for a wrestler in every category you've checked. The ballot is also broken down to wrestlers and those who are not pro wrestlers but have been valuable parts of the industry. The maximum number of wrestlers that you can vote for all the categories is ten. You can pick as few as zero if you don't believe anyone on this list deserves inclusion. For wrestling executives, managers, announcers and other outside the ring performers, you can vote for them and they are not counted against the ten. You can vote for as many as five of them. All responses are confidential. There is nothing to worry about politically about any involvement in this process. Your selections will not be revealed unless you choose to do so yourself. Anyone who receives mention on 60% of the ballots from the geographical region and time frame (broken down as Continental United States & Canada; Mexico; Japan; and the rest of the world) will be added to the Hall of Fame in the class of 2017. If you are unfamiliar with any of the candidates due to geography of having never seen them, that is fine. Ballots are sent to many people from all over the world and from different wrestling cultures so that everyone has as fair a shot at possible. The breakdown for modern and historical performers is 30 years ago, or 1987. So if the last year the person was a headliner, or was a key figure in the industry, was prior to 1987, they would be in the historical class. All performers who receive mention on 10% to 59.9% of the ballots from their geographical region or era will remain on the ballot for consideration next year. All those who receive less than 10% of the vote will be dropped from next year's ballot. They can return in two years based on if there is significant feedback from voters who say they will vote for them. This is mostly for wrestlers who are still active who may improve their career legacy, but can be for retired wrestlers if voters believe they should be put on or returned to the ballot. In addition, in following the lead of the baseball Hall of Fame, which is the model here, starting this year we have a 15-year-rule. The following candidates have been on the ballot since 2003. In baseball, this would be their last year of eligibility. Here, if they don't get at least 50% of the votes in this year's election they will be removed from the ballot. If they are modern candidates, they can be brought back in the historical performers era in two years if it is more than 30 years since their career as a Hall Fame level performer is up: The following candidates will be dropped from next year's ballot unless they are elected in or garner 50% of the vote: Curt Hennig Yuji Nagata Don Owen Tim Woods Please return this ballot by November 1st. You can e-mail the ballot back to [email protected] or fax it to 408-244-3402 or mail (please do so by November 1st) to Wrestling Observer, P.O. Box 1228, Campbell, CA 95009-1228. Please check by every category you are familiar with I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES Red Bastien June Byers Wild Bull Curry Cowboy Bob Ellis Don Fargo Pepper Gomez Archie "Mongolian Stomper" Gouldie Chavo Guerrero Sr. Dick Hutton Rocky Johnson Sputnik Monroe Pedro Morales Blackjack Mulligan George Steele John Tolos Enrique Torres Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff Johnny "Mr. Wrestling II" Walker Tim "Mr. Wrestling" Woods Bearcat Wright I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson w/J.J. Dillon Junkyard Dog Edge Bill Goldberg Curt Hennig Randy Orton C.M. Punk Sgt. Slaughter Trish Stratus A.J. Styles Kerry Von Erich Ultimate Warrior I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Jun Akiyama Cima Yoshiaki Fujiwara Hayabusa Kota Ibushi Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan Yuji Nagata Tetsuya Naito Mike & Ben Sharpe Minoru Suzuki Kiyoshi Tamura Akira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo Caristico/Mistico Sangre Chicana Cien Caras Ultimo Guerrero Ruben Juarez Karloff Lagarde Blue Panther L.A. Park Huracan Ramirez El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro Vampiro Villano III Dr. Wagner Jr. I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND/PACIFIC ISLANDS/AFRICA CANDIDATES Spyros Arion Johnny Barend Domenic DeNucci Killer Karl Kox Mark Lewin Mario Milano Steve Rickard I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE Big Daddy Horst Hoffman Billy Joyce Kendo Nagasaki Jackie Pallo Rollerball Mark Rocco Johny Saint Ricky Starr Otto Wanz NON-WRESTLERS Bill Apter Lord James Blears Dave Brown Chyna Jim Crockett Jr. Jim Crockett Sr. Gary Hart Jimmy Hart Howard Finkel Ed Francis Jerry Jarrett Larry Matysik Don Owen George Scott Stanley Weston